Cash shop pricing is getting a bit much...

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Originally Posted by Alleo

In the end people play this game for different reasons. I for example like to collect stuff, like Glamour, Pets, Mounts. I cant complete my collectin and thus cant reach my goal thanks to the cash shop. So for me all those mounts and stuff in there is like putting savage gear in it. But somehow we should be fine with that because its only glamour. (But again this topic is more about the prices..)

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No one is saying you needs be fine with the cash shop. You are, after all, entitled to your opinion. That doesn't mean the cash shop is some massive blight. While you may prefer collecting things, gameplay will always hold superior value because that will remain the core concept of any game. You cannot equate Savage gear to minion. Or if you do, you'll have to accept few will agree they hold equivalent value.

Pricing has been the same for years. It has not changed. Stop acting surprised, it makes you look comically out of touch to suddenly be outraged by the status quo.

I've got to chime in with HyoMin and others who've pointed out that the pricing for these items are in line with items of the same type, not more than them...


Also, that there's no way these specific items would ever have been free for us.
They were commissioned by the other region companies for their game's shop.

They would always have been either a promotion, or on our cash shop.
And considering how well SE has shown they've done with the promotions, EU in particular, the cash shop is probably the more reasonable preference.




On the Hildy attire...
That's a bit of a head scratcher.



Sure, it's something that could have been a quest reward...
But, it's also gender locked to male...
Which, kind of makes it bad as a quest reward...

Which would require a female version to be made, and that comes with the baggage of the whole glamour disparity of genders...


The whole situation with that item just feels icky.

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Originally Posted by Krotoan

I'm sorry suggesting you go out and acquire the resources necessary to achieve your goal is so antagonizing.

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Its not about being antagonizing, its about putting the issues that people have with the cash shop, its prices and things like that in a sub MMO down. You can be someone with a huge income and yet still find it bad. (I dont have a huge income but I am far from poor and could buy things from there but I dont anymore for different reasons)

Also I did get down on the prices and went with 50$ on my last post. Again this is more about the: Where will you draw the line? But if they reach your line then cant someone else come and point out that this is simply the price that SE believed it would be right and anyone that cant pay that just needs to earn more thus any concern of you would be nothing?

The thread was also not about price increase. The OP even states that the prices recently have been the same but that they still find it bad because if they want the complete package they need to pay over 50$. Also we simply dont know if this is fine for most of the public. First we dont even know how many people are buying them and how many of those that are buying them do that because they really want it but at the same time still feel bad. And how big is the chance that if SE suddenly decided to drop the prices to 50% people would dislike it? (I would dare to say that quite a few items sold on sale) Because its just surprising to see people argue against decreasing them.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

No one is saying you needs be fine with the cash shop. You are, after all, entitled to your opinion. That doesn't mean the cash shop is some massive blight. While you may prefer collecting things, gameplay will always hold superior value because that will remain the core concept of any game. You cannot equate Savage gear to minion. Or if you do, you'll have to accept few will agree they hold equivalent value.

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I know thats why I would equally argue in threads if they would ever decide to sell such. It would not matter to me because I dont care for savage but I also know that other people care for it. Sadly it seems that some seems to not care that much that there are people that love glamour and mounts and that its one of the reasons to play. (One could also argue that glamour weapons without stats are not gameplay. The gameplay would be the fight itself which you still could do)

I dont see the cash shop as a massive blight. I have bought stuff from it before but stopped after some of the things SE did. The only recent items were gifts . But I do see the cash shop as one of the problems of FF14 and something which leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. Will it make me unsub? Probably not. But it surely does not create any positive emotions for SE and seeing how they are doing FF15 I am a bit skeptic how far they will go.

I am also fine if you buy stuff from it and I dont hate or dislike anyone that uses it or continue to use it because I can understand that you just want something for it. But I will also not sit silently and just watch.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Its not about being antagonizing, its about putting the issues that people have with the cash shop, its prices and things like that in a sub MMO down. You can be someone with a huge income and yet still find it bad. (I dont have a huge income but I am far from poor and could buy things from there but I dont anymore for different reasons)

Also I did get down on the prices and went with 50$ on my last post. Again this is more about the: Where will you draw the line? But if they draw your line then cant someone else come and point out that this is simply the price that SE believed it would be right and anyone that cant pay that just needs to earn more thus any concern of you would be nothing?

The thread was also not about price increase. The OP even states that the prices recently have been the same but that they still find it bad because if they want the complete package they need to pay over 50$. Also we simply dont know if this fine for most of the public. First we dont even know how many people are buying them and how many of those that are buying them to that because they really want it but at the same time still feel bad. And how big is the chance that if SE suddenly decided to drop the prices to 50% people would dislike it? (I would dare to say that quite a few items sold on sale) Because its just surprising to see people argue against decreasing them.

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I'm not rich either and hold nothing against those who are or aren't. I will however voice my opinion of those who whine about prices and claim "evil empire" just because a company is trying to bring in some extra dollars. The fact you're paying a sub has absolutely nothing to do with the entirely optional services and items they are offering.

You draw the line when the prices are too high for you. However when it hits that line you just stop buying stuff. This is why I don't have any of the statues. They're too expensive for me. I want them sure, but that's far more than I'd be willing to spend on a statue of a fictional being that'd just sit on my desk. I might buy them if they were 50 bucks, but I don't sit there and complain because it's not what I value them at. I don't understand the crusade to demand lower prices, especially if there are plenty of people willing to pay. Why would they lower the price if the product is selling? I don't need to earn more, I need to understand that if I'm not that interested in buying it, I don't need to buy it.

"I want the complete package but its too much altogether" .. In my head they're complaining because they're releasing too many items at once, which is kind of the opposite of a problem for the consumers. People who frequent the cash shop want more things. The fact that they release a lot at the same time doesn't mean you need to buy them all or that they expect you to, just that they have a clump of items they're releasing at the same time. We know it must be acceptable enough that it's selling decently or the prices would be adjusted or sales would be happening sooner. You don't curtail your cashflow as long as it's happening at an acceptable pace. We'll of course never know WHY people are buying things or not buying things , but you can be assured that they ARE selling at the given prices. Why would SE ever drop the prices %50 permanently when they can drop sales every so often? Get the money from people willing to pay full price and then grab those extra dollars from the people who are actually hedging on the price. I'm not against the price actually falling, that'd benefit me as well. However I wouldn't even consider just posting "it's too expensive.. make it lower" when it's obvious it's selling.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

No one is saying you needs be fine with the cash shop. You are, after all, entitled to your opinion. That doesn't mean the cash shop is some massive blight. While you may prefer collecting things, gameplay will always hold superior value because that will remain the core concept of any game. You cannot equate Savage gear to minion. Or if you do, you'll have to accept few will agree they hold equivalent value.

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lol some would say savage mount much more important then Savage gear Specially if they ugly gear.
Show them gear: eh another raider
Show them mount: **** you lucky ***.
XD

Good times when Cash Shop items were only reskined version of in-game ones, seemed fair at that time.
How blind could we be, didn't we $ee that coming? xD

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Originally Posted by LastFireAce

lol some would say savage mount much more important then Savage gear Specially if they ugly gear.
Show them gear: eh another raider
Show them mount: **** you lucky ***.
XD

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As a non-savage raider...I hate not having those mounts as I am a collector of all things that I can get my hands on. I'm sure if I tried I could end up getting them...but just don't have the drive for it right now...maybe before 5.0 I will get the Alexander mounts...and work on getting the SB EX Primal mounts(have only done about 5 Lakshmi and that's it...with no mount drops).

Still hoping that SE will grace us with a response, maybe during Duty Commenced on the fourth or the LPP on the 11th.

Obviously the cash shop is mutually beneficial for both SE and thousands of players all over the world. Just look around the servers at how many cash shop items have been purchased. I understand those who cannot afford will feel slighted and people who are caught up on "F2P" feelings will disagree.

However, try to look at the other side of the argument. Money doesn't grow on trees for any of us. I work such long hours I barely have time to play this game. Many people do and if we want to treat ourselves with a paid item and SE wants to provide us paid items to buy, awesome. Should we shut down the Porsche factory because some people can't afford a luxury car? The entitled mindset is so silly. Anyone experienced in MMOs knows most game's cash shops will leave you feeling dead inside with all the pay to win items and buy-able currency. You all have it so good in FFXIV it's not even funny and yet still find something to complain about.