Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation

I think Fantasia should be obtainable in-game through a quest, recipe, drop, or in-game currency.

But if we have to choose between pay for it with real money or nothing at all, I'll pay for it.


Also, once they release the Beauty-Shop/Barber-Shop, I really hope they will add the option to change skin color. I like my current skin color, but I'd also like to try out some of the strange colors like blue and gray, which I didn't pick because I didn't want to be stuck with blue skin forever lol

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Originally Posted by Enthy

I think Fantasia should be obtainable in-game through a quest, recipe, drop, or in-game currency.

But if we have to choose between pay for it with real money or nothing at all, I'll pay for it.


Also, once they release the Beauty-Shop/Barber-Shop, I really hope they will add the option to change skin color. I like my current skin color, but I'd also like to try out some of the strange colors like blue and gray, which I didn't pick because I didn't want to be stuck with blue skin forever lol

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Only hair, tattoo's and makeup would be changeable.

Skin/eye colour/height, would only be changeable by the Phial of Fantasia.

It should be mog station service only and nothing else ! This thing should not be in game to direct obtain for any game currency.

FFXIV starts going micro-transaction beyond server transfers, I will quit.

Of course they will never do it because they know how stupid it is.

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Originally Posted by Quesse

FFXIV starts going micro-transaction beyond server transfers, I will quit.

Of course they will never do it because they know how stupid it is.

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Oh dear, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

It's going to hurt seeing as Yoshi's considering it.

Even after editing my original post, people still bring in the "cash shop" nonsense.

How many times do I need to say this is not a cash shop suggestion? lol...

I don't see why not, it's not like the phial gives you premium options that you didn't have when you created your character.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Changing the "Shioban Mooney is on Aegis" > Transfer Data from Excalibur to Aegis.
It's not very 'techy', the price tag is to stop people jumping servers constantly.

The same would go for appearnce, it flags the character for an edit, simple. The price would discourage people to do it constantly.

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Discourage people via a high gil/seal price, like they do for restatting. There is no valid reason to charge RL money in a sub game. I am willing to say ok for changing servers though for various reasons that should be obvious.

Optional Service through Mog Station, or purchase in-game. Either way, they're going to have to implement this, especially since there are plans to introduce additional races in future patches. There will be people who will be asking for it in the future.

I think a Quest would be the most fair thing for everyone. You could do it in a group through DF, 100% drop rate (one time only), and the boss in that Quest gonna be Mimic Gogo (FF V). Once you've cleared it you can do the quest over and over again but without the drop (but maybe gil instead), for fun, or to help someone :)

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus

Discourage people via a high gil/seal price, like they do for restatting. There is no valid reason to charge RL money in a sub game. I am willing to say ok for changing servers though for various reasons that should be obvious.

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I don't mind either way really.

But there is a valid reason, Square Enix are a business trying to make money. This would make them money.

I'm looking forward to it. I'd gladly plop down 20 bucks to be able to freely change my character whenever. It would make me want to play this game even longer knowing I can mix it up every now and then. Right now after seeing a bunch of cute Lalafells in game I want to be a Lalafell for a spell. I think any game that lets you create a character should give you an option to redo your character.

Not sure what a cash shop is as this is my first MMO but paying for an item to change a character's appearance doesn't seem like something to get mad about.

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Originally Posted by Esura

Not sure what a cash shop is as this is my first MMO but paying for an item to change a character's appearance doesn't seem like something to get mad about.

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Some people are concerned that Square Enix might open the 'cash shop' door. Some other games would offer; Money, EXP Boosts, Gear, Weapons. Essentially things to progress in the game faster.

However, all we're asking for is the option to pay for a character appearance option, some people are missing this point and getting mad believing that we're asking Square Enix to go into full 'Cash Shop' mode.

It's a standard MMO service to offer character appearance changes, and i'm the same as you. I get fickle and feel like changing.

I don't see the problem with paying for a service that offers more versatility and has no effect on the game itself whatsoever.

Really some people need to calm down. Just cause you cant afford to change your character every week doesn't mean you have to be jelly.

Appearance change isn't a cash shop for epics you clueless morons, settle down. Wow. I'd happily pay to recreate my character.

+1 for this

and while at it, we might as well ask for more service other than fantasia

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

+1 for this

and while at it, we might as well ask for more service other than fantasia

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Other than server transfers, I'm not really sure what would be appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Wobi

I'm thinking 30 day cooldown would be more reasonable but hell why not.

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I'd put a cooldown on name change services WAY before I'd ever put a cooldown on the use of Fantasia (just to throw it out there, 90-day cooldown on name-change services). If a guy is paying $25 per bottle of Fantasia and wants to get himself enough to change his appearance every day for two weeks, let him. Changing your appearance doesn't cause harm, whereas being able to change your name has the propensity to invite scammers and FC-bank thieves.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Other than server transfers, I'm not really sure what would be appropriate.

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The only other service I could think of would be;

MogTranformation. Instantly turn your one-of-the-five races into the Moogle master race of Eorzea!
Guaranteed : More attractive than Miqo'tes.
Guaranteed : Cuddlier than a Roegadyn
Guaranteed : 5x more cute and mischievous than your average Lalafell.

Don't delay! Pay today!

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Originally Posted by Shioban

I don't mind either way really.

But there is a valid reason, Square Enix are a business trying to make money. This would make them money.

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I know that and that is why they charge a sub ;)

Slippery slope is slippery, micro transaction do not belong in a sub game , they belong in f2p micro-transaction game. They want to make money isn't a valid reason as the whole basis of sub games is that there will be no cash shop or such other you have to use RL money to "XYZ".

They charge RL money for anything other than server transfers, if they charge for pets, cosmetics (both appearance or fashion items) name changes, mounts etc etc and my wife and I will drop this like a dirty diaper.

We want to pay sub so we can avoid cash shops whether they be in game or not. Do this and we would no longer be willing to pay for a sub.

Either be a sub based game or not and be f2p, be one or the other not some hybrid con.

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus

They charge RL money for anything other than server transfers, if they charge for pets, cosmetics (both appearance or fashion items) name changes, mounts etc etc and my wife and I will drop this like a dirty diaper.

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Really? You would quit this amazing game because Square is giving players the option to change their appearance?

That's sad, man.

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus

I know that and that is why they charge a sub ;)

Slippery slope is slippery, micro transaction do not belong in a sub game , they belong in f2p micro-transaction game. They want to make money isn't a valid reason as the whole basis of sub games is that there will be no cash shop or such other you have to use RL money to "XYZ".

They charge RL money for anything other than server transfers, if they charge for pets, cosmetics (both appearance or fashion items) name changes, mounts etc etc and my wife and I will drop this like a dirty diaper.

We want to pay sub so we can avoid cash shops whether they be in game or not. Do this and we would no longer be willing to pay for a sub.

Either be a sub based game or not and be f2p, be one or the other not some hybrid con.

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It's not my place, but i'd certainly hope you wouldn't quit the game if they did stupidly offer a few minions in exchange for cash.

If they started offering pay-to-win items, such as money, gear/weapons, exp boosters.
That's my limit, and i'd be ducking out. That's where the dark territory comes in.

(/opinion)

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It's a standard MMO service to offer character appearance changes, and i'm the same as you. I get fickle and feel like changing.

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To be honest, I wouldn't have any problems with that either despite the sub, not that I want them to implement something like that or anything. All I really just want to do is just change my appearance instantly though. I think I'd be a bit miffed if they make it some 20,000+ GC seal type thing to unlock as that would take way too long. Other than wanting to try out a Lalafell I keep spotting out imperfections of my characters as I play under certain conditions and it bugs me.

It's already been confirmed that HAIRSALON will be ingame, however, a racechange/custimization change will be added to SE store. Same with Collectors Ugrade, Server Transfer, and ya know, resubbing. Server xfers will probably be 3 months, so theres no say if the recustimization will be 3 months as well.

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Originally Posted by pochte

It's already been confirmed that HAIRSALON will be ingame, however, a racechange/custimization change will be added to SE store. Same with Collectors Ugrade, Server Transfer, and ya know, resubbing. Server xfers will probably be 3 months, so theres no say if the recustimization will be 3 months as well.

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Server Transfers are scheduled for Mid-September. So in a few weeks i'd imagine.

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

Really? You would quit this amazing game because Square is giving players the option to change their appearance?

That's sad, man.

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Of course not! ...... Learn to read and the reason why I would quit will become clear. They can easily offer this service in game without RLM.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It's not my place, but i'd certainly hope you wouldn't quit the game if they did stupidly offer a few minions in exchange for cash.

If they started offering pay-to-win items, such as money, gear/weapons, exp boosters.
That's my limit, and i'd be ducking out. That's where the dark territory comes in.

(/opinion)

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While I understand your position I do not agree with it.

Like I said Slippery Slope, ....cosmetics leads to convenience leads to p2w a la star wars philosophy. I have seen it happen in too many games which have led to the hybrid scam a la DDO amongst others.

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus

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I agree with much for this, it would greatly disappoint me if FFXIV turned into a subscription based game with an added cash shop, it'd really cheapen the name "Final Fantasy" and experience of XIV for me to see people selling items bought for cash for gil.

However, that being said, I would like to see untradeable character customisation items or account actions, such as those found in WoW, and see it as the same as changing worlds, new world new look.

this is going to happen sooner or later, and it's fine. offering conveniences or minions/mounts for real money is perfectly acceptable. P2W is where the line should be drawn, and honestly a STRICTLY p2p MMO with a P2W cash shop is basically unheard of.

there's nothing to be worried about, people dont need to be paranoid just because you're able to buy a few convenience or cosmetic features from SE.

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Originally Posted by Tokimonsta

I agree with much for this, it would greatly disappoint me if FFXIV turned into a subscription based game with an added cash shop, it'd really cheapen the name "Final Fantasy" and experience of XIV for me to see people selling items bought for cash for gil.

However, that being said, I would like to see untradeable character customisation items or account actions, such as those found in WoW, and see it as the same as changing worlds, new world new look.

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It'd be just as you said. An untradable item that the player could use when they feel they need to, for a one time apperance edit.

Just like WoWs 'Account Services'. It'd be almost identical.

Make this happen please, could we get an update if you guys are considering it?

please.

Please allow this to happen or at least allow us charge now for dem Veteran Rewards. I like changing my looks once in awhile..

This smells like p2w. You have a p2p game, do not kill it with a store.

i thought that was the intention, to offer services for crysta.

Server transfers, fantasias, name changes, additional retainers. stuff like that.

I'm totally expecting things like this to come out on the Mogstation...

Yes and no cooldown. It affects no one. And if someone wants to "paint their face" everyday, like they do in real life. Hell, all the power to them , thats 20 bucks a day to SE.

Fantasia, "Character Refacing" or whatever, is a perfect example of something they can capitalize on for the benefit of their bottom line, without hurting anyone at all.

They did already say they expect to sell things in such a manner.

Id pay an extra dollar a month to be able to change my makeup and haircolor only at an in game salon on a regular basis. Because why the hell not!? Its fun. Those male bathing bottoms show side-ass. This game is all about fan service.

Play it up!

Or they could make a new craft job Aesthetician. And then its all in game. Buuut this isnt SWG and I digress.

How is this p2w? It doesn't make you win in the game FFS

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Originally Posted by makii

This smells like p2w. You have a p2p game, do not kill it with a store.

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How is it pay to win?
Would changing my character appearance suddenly give me an advantage that I didn't have before?


The premise of this thread is for the ability to edit our appearance again at a cost.
What we are NOT saying is; "Yoshi, give me EXP boosters".

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Originally Posted by Shioban

How is it pay to win?
Would changing my character appearance suddenly give me an advantage that I didn't have before?


The premise of this thread is for the ability to edit our appearance again at a cost.
What we are NOT saying is; "Yoshi, give me EXP boosters".

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One thing will lead to another, that's how it starts.

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Originally Posted by makii

One thing will lead to another, that's how it starts.

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True as that may be, an option to change your characters race and such things is strictly not pay to win.
I'll object when they start charging for stuff like exp boosts, special mounts/pets, cashshop vanity gear, and things like that. Character redesigns and server transfers aren't game breaking nor do they bring any exclusive content to buyers. You need to set reasonable boundaries.

I'm all in for that.
I made a dare mistake of changing my character looks from Hyur Midlander to Roegadyn Seawolf, using the first fantasia we got as 1.0 players (since my main job is gladiator I thought it'd fit more) only to find out that I really dislike blocking my view while tanking and that in some dungeons I can barely see what I'm doing because of the size. There are other issues with Roe, such as, he can clip through tables and even chairs in some sitting places and this really means a great deal to me as a roleplayer.
Long story short, I contacted SE, asking to revert my Fantasia usage, without refunding me with another fantasia almost instantly and got a random response to go to character name change petition page...
I already subscribed for another month and am supposed to get another fantasia when billing starts but that means that up until then I am VERY discouraged to play the game.
I would pay 30$ right now to SE to change my looks.

PLEASE add this feature :)