Please stop hiding miqo'te ears (and other races') from certain head gear

Hoping we get more pointy eared friendly cosmetics in DT!

Bumping for visibility

It's been 5 years and there's no sign they're going to even give Viera and Hrothgar hats.

They're certainly not going to go back to putting in ear-holes. Be happy you can equip them at all.

I think miqo ear holes would make my beloved hat look stupid.

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Originally Posted by DrForester

It's been 5 years and there's no sign they're going to even give Viera and Hrothgar hats.

They're certainly not going to go back to putting in ear-holes. Be happy you can equip them at all.

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If I'm not mistaken they did mention they are working on that in one of the presentations.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

If I'm not mistaken they did mention they are working on that in one of the presentations.

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It was mentioned, but I don't remember where

Taking this opportunity to bump the thread since it's something that affects the graphical update although more on the gear side of things.

The latest art showing the Solution 9 area (see here) depicts a miqo'te with a cap and the ears are poking through! Perhaps there's hope?

Bumping because plenty of headgear in 7.0 still hides the ears (and some the tails!).

Additionally, the level 97 dungeon glamour headpiece for Fending and Maiming jobs has ear compartments for miqo'te but they're weirdly placed: they do not correlate to where the ears are meant to be. The compartments are kind of facing forward, as if they were horns.

This is just a consequence of them designing gear for hyur first and the rest of the races second. All they have to do is make the ear compartments go towards the back of the skull in this particular case to make it more logical.

Ideally, they should redesign the headpiece so that the circular parts from where the ear compartments come from are further back on the helmet but I doubt this will happen.

There is also a bug with the level 97 Aiming/Striking/Scouting headpiece that shows black textures/clipping at the base of the ears for male miqo'te. These ones are likely there due to the original cap's color but they forgot to make sure they didn't show for miqo'te. I have written a bug post about it which I hope will get accepted.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Additionally, the level 97 dungeon glamour headpiece for Fending and Maiming jobs has ear compartments for miqo'te but they're weirdly placed: they do not correlate to where the ears are meant to be. The compartments are kind of facing forward, as if they were horns.

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This has always been an issue with the majority of ear socks for gear that has it. The modellers don't seem to check back to the character model at all to see where the ears are positioned, they just stick two (usually comically undersized) pointy bits wherever they think looks about right.

Reviewing the hats and making them fit the ears properly is the sort of thing I would have actually wanted the devs to put their "graphics improvement" budget into.

Bump for support.

bump for support.

the new lvl 100 job gear. not just random trash gear but the damn iconic gear doesnt have earholes for elezen! the dragoon poster race. every dragoon helmet upto this point has had room for our ears cept this one. also the only 1 that doesnt have visor options. it just feel extremely LAZY!!

this game makes you tons of money squeenix. stop filling your pockets and reinvest into your players instead of giving us the fucking bare minimum effort lately. dawntrail feels extremely lazy and its making me really sad for the future of this game

As a Lalafell as much as I dislike when we get the 'ear socks' with certain headgear, I would prefer them not to be cut off also.

For some reason, the vanguard tank/maiming set hides only FEMALE miqot'e's ears. Not male.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

For some reason, the vanguard tank/maiming set hides only FEMALE miqot'e's ears. Not male.

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This is very weird, especially considering that the way the male miqo'te ears show is quite strange. They look like horns because they come from the circular shapes to the sides of the helmet. So in the end, they don't look very good. Those shapes should be further back in the helmet, something the designers would know if they didn't design gear for hyur by default all the time.

Bought the street set and was terribly disappointed that the hat doesn't show my ears. Noticed later they seemed to purposely choose sales images that don't cover this issue.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Bought the street set and was terribly disappointed that the hat doesn't show my ears. Noticed later they seemed to purposely choose sales images that don't cover this issue.

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That and the Calfskin cap are some of the biggest offenders.

I want to give my support for this thread.
It’s just annoying at this point and I fail to see the reasons behind it.
Worst of all is that it’s completely random sometimes.
Some headgear shows ears and some doesn’t, like different people design that.

Just give us a toggle already.
I hardly wear headgear nowadays.

Worse is stuff that hides the tails though.

Honestly would love a toggle
Like if theyre already not going to bother fitting gear to each race, which like to some extent I gey because there are a fair number of race specific edits theyd need to make so obviously they're going the route of faster and cheaper here, then like why not just let the ears clip and let people decide if they care or not. Maybe there are technical reasons they cant do a toggle but frankly I'd rather have a lot of hats that look stupid thanks to clipping than have a lot of hats that are flat out invisible or wholly chop my ears off. Like i like it for some hats and hoods when i play miqo but others just dont look good anyway and probably wouldn't be much worse if my ears just poked through them.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

Gear from Stormblood onward that covers the entire head tends to fully hide the ears of miqo'te.

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It's just lazy ass design.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

It’s just annoying at this point and I fail to see the reasons behind it.

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They design for e.g.: Female Midlander and then scale the item onto the other female races (usually except Lala). Saves a ton of work not having to do different meshes of every item they release.

It's not just the ears that don't get respected, its our tails also.
Very early gear hat specific meshes and cutouts for the tail. Later on they just went "Fork it" and let the tail clip through the clothing.

Another bump. In disbelief that we're going another expansion where artifact gear lacks miqo'te ears , like come on man , half the hats aren't even a crazy shape and are flush to our heads but they don't let our ears poke through... Lame.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

This is very weird, especially considering that the way the male miqo'te ears show is quite strange. They look like horns because they come from the circular shapes to the sides of the helmet. So in the end, they don't look very good. Those shapes should be further back in the helmet, something the designers would know if they didn't design gear for hyur by default all the time.

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Honestly not too bothered about the ear placement on the helmet. In "reality" there would probably be speakers tucked into the ears inside that helmet. While the ears themselves are folded along the head.

Those helmet ears are merely cosmetic.

Still, overall sad with that set removing both our defining features. Almost wonder if they used female miqo'te as the base model for the soldiers.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

Those helmet ears are merely cosmetic.

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In Battle, the last thing you'd want is protrusions on your your helmet, where any weapon would get caught and be able to transfer the kinetic energy of the swing directly to your neck.

I'd be a fudging death sentence.

So if we Miqo's are able to flatten our ears to the extent of fitting them snugly into a "round" helmet, such armor would be a lot more realistic and safer.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

snipr.

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This only works for some jobs anyway. I usually am very favorable to arguments of verisimilitude, but I'm literally painting my enemies to death while wearing a dress.
I want my ears and my tail showing.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

In Battle, the last thing you'd want is protrusions on your your helmet, where any weapon would get caught and be able to transfer the kinetic energy of the swing directly to your neck.

I'd be a fudging death sentence.

So if we Miqo's are able to flatten our ears to the extent of fitting them snugly into a "round" helmet, such armor would be a lot more realistic and safer.

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I don't play the game for realism though. Have you seen how impractical some of the armor and weapons are?
This is a jrpg.

Also. no one knows how armor for a race with cat ears and tail would be designed.
Them sticking out could be just as dangerous as them being so tugged in it gets uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by Voidmage

Also. no one knows how armor for a race with cat ears and tail would be designed.
Them sticking out could be just as dangerous as them being so tugged in it gets uncomfortable.

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If we're going for "realistic structure" I would imagine it to be more dome shaped on the outside with internal space for the ears. But that's only if you're going for absolute protection and not looks.

Plus there are plenty of hats where the hat provides no protection and it's all about the aesthetics and comfort.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

If we're going for "realistic structure" I would imagine it to be more dome shaped on the outside with internal space for the ears. But that's only if you're going for absolute protection and not looks.

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Yes I was mainly talking about tank gear that has classical helmets.

Naturally this does not apply to a wizard hat made of cloth or civilian clothing.

NEW RAID GEAR IS OUT GUYS AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT?
no elf ears, no lala ears and im guessing no miqote ears

THANKS SQUARE ENIX! im sure it this being the best selling expansion ever it was too much of a hassle to the bare minimum back to the playerbase. hell its not even giving back. you're literally taking something away which has always been there in the past.

you clearly didnt spend that fucking money on writers. so what the hell.

i look like a fken 7 foot tall midlander now.
https://i.imgur.com/mkrikC5.png

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Originally Posted by AngaratoSvartberg

NEW RAID GEAR IS OUT GUYS AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT?
no elf ears, no lala ears and im guessing no miqote ears

THANKS SQUARE ENIX! im sure it this being the best selling expansion ever it was too much of a hassle to the bare minimum back to the playerbase. hell its not even giving back. you're literally taking something away which has always been there in the past.

you clearly didnt spend that fucking money on writers. so what the hell.

i look like a fken 7 foot tall midlander now.
https://i.imgur.com/mkrikC5.png

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guess SE just prefers Hyurs.

No viera ears on that hood either, which is insane to me. How are they fitting under there?

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Originally Posted by knaveofcups

No viera ears on that hood either, which is insane to me. How are they fitting under there?

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...fd3bbba05a847& like this
ignore the poor quality of the sketch

Do they really just want us to play hyur at this point ToT

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Originally Posted by Local_Custard

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...fd3bbba05a847& like this
ignore the poor quality of the sketch

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at least now I have an excuse for mishearing callouts

I'm just here to show my support for #FreeTheEars

The only headpiece that shows the ears from the new raid glam is the Aiming mask because... it's just a mask. None of the others show miqo'te ears at all.

It's kind of depressing to be fair.

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Originally Posted by Aco505

The only headpiece that shows the ears from the new raid glam is the Aiming mask because... it's just a mask. None of the others show miqo'te ears at all.

It's kind of depressing to be fair.

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I saw that this morning and I couldn't help but laugh. They've truly absolutely given up on bothering with non-human ears. Forever glamming ARR/HW hats I guess. :(

Seconding this, it's absolutely shocking that in a game that's had these classes for years and multiple expansions that we're suffering still from a lack of care being put into this gear being compatible with all races

How can we have this and this:
https://i.imgur.com/yMBYy1f.png https://i.imgur.com/vbPToBi.png


In the same patch?


Not to even mention the number of hat items that don't even work for Viera and Hrothgar for basically no reason.

Then the items that do work just have horrendous amounts of clipping that should have been sorted as well:
https://i.imgur.com/xKZPykx.png

All three of these released in 7.0 -> 7.01. It makes literally no sense to not have put this polish in place

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Originally Posted by Newosan

Seconding this, it's absolutely shocking that in a game that's had these classes for years and multiple expansions that we're suffering still from a lack of care being put into this gear being compatible with all races

How can we have this and this:
https://i.imgur.com/yMBYy1f.png https://i.imgur.com/vbPToBi.png


In the same patch?


Not to even mention the number of hat items that don't even work for Viera and Hrothgar for basically no reason.

Then the items that do work just have horrendous amounts of clipping that should have been sorted as well:
https://i.imgur.com/xKZPykx.png

All three of these released in 7.0 -> 7.01. It makes literally no sense to not have put this polish in place

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wow you get your bunny ears with the viper hood? they cut my ears off.
https://i.imgur.com/FCjStuj.png

I must say, the way viera ears show through hoods like those without any kind of hole is such a low effort attempt from the designers.

It gets harder and harder to say "Glam is the true endgame" when Yoshi p treats it as an afterthought. It doesnt get anywhere near enough investment.