Hidden Artifacts is an Insult!

Guess it's time to go M night shyamalan on this topic

This is the japanese translation of the contest, even though the same rep did both it would appear something is different"

"Hidden Artifacts ~ ~ nascent concept art quiz
From today, will be held on the "Concept Art Quiz - Shinsei Hidden Artifacts ~" Forum Events!

Exploring the full picture of the concept art of Final Fantasy XIV newborn to answer the quiz, hidden in the panel!

«Concept Art»



«Holding period»
May 16, 2012 (Wednesday) until 21 May 2012 (Mon) 19:00

«How to participate»
It will be the quiz questions in the forum, please post the answer to the thread of each issue.

«Rules»
The picture has been obscured by the panel of nine.
Quiz questions and then are three questions each day.
When you answer the quiz, the cancellation of the panel is done.
In addition, when you answer all the questions correctly, you can distribute the special wallpaper of which the motif is the concept art.
Limit to the number of times no posts.
Post editing is not possible."

The way it's said above just makes it sound like concept art that will be used in 2.0 not "all new" concept art that will be put into the game. However perhaps it's worded differently because we're getting something new while for some odd reason the japanese got a Behemoth lol.

I do understand the oddity that the one who's taking care of the japanese one is also doing the american one but perhaps it just means our art will actually be new art. At least from the way I read the japanese contest it just sounds like they are getting concept art that'll be used in the new FF14, but at the same time remember when this contest is over we'll be able to download these high resolution images to use as wallpaper or just some nice candy, :o so really it's just a dinky little game where everyone wins.

Well maybe if we weren't so starved for 2.0 information, this joke of an event would actually be funny.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

That's not the point though, now is it? This thread is all about the injustice of SE's lying to the players. I have merely suggested someone check the actual event in question (the JP event that is) before claiming that they have lied. The wording of the event implicitly says that each event is separate. Meaning the description of one language cannot in good conscience be applied to the other languages' events.

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If the english loc team somehow managed to translate japanese "concept art" as "all new concept art" then i think hey need to replace their loc team...speaking of which, they are hiring aren't they?

^^ New concept art is, at least to me, pretty major stuff. Especially considering that we haven't really seen anything new since the PDF file. So I don't agree that this is just "anything".

I'll be polite enough to wait for the other pictures to be revealed *I* moan, though =)

It could be that the JP got old concept art and the english loc team "painstakingly" procured "new concept art" for the NA players resulting in the JP being shown behemoth and the NA being shown ???mysterypic???

If that were the case, I withold my grudge. But if it's an erorr due to translation, flameon.

To the people complaining about players being upset and offended sugesting they should just quit, these are obviously players who enjoy the game and have invested in it.

Speaking up about an obvious lie is an expression of disappointment, what on earth is wrong with that? The game has had a lot of new content come out recently and that's great. So why would you pull a stunt like this saying you have exciting new concept art that is painstakingly scanned from the CE book. Even if you're pretty new to the game, if you've searched for concept art or images related to the game you're very likely to have come accross it before.

They would have been much better off doing nothing than trying to get away with this and frustrating people.

Even if it wasn't new, it's a behemoth of all things. Why wouldn't we expect to see this at some point?

I wanna see that beast with Yoshi-P's head.
Now THAT's new!

But yeah, thanks for spoiling =)

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Originally Posted by Renshi

But yeah, thanks for spoiling =)

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How is it spoiling if its been all over the internet for 2 years...lol

They might aswell of put this under that blue screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI&feature=fvst

The French picture kind of looks like a tauri.

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Originally Posted by ViciousValentine

How is it spoiling if its been all over the internet for 2 years...lol

They might aswell of put this under that blue screen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkTb9GP9lVI&feature=fvst

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Because even though I had the references and things I didn't want to ruin the surprise, but don't let it get on you, it's my fault reading this thread afterall =)

Because a translation error is definitely the same as a lie.

Also...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...82%BA%EF%BD%9E
This is the Japanese one.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/45774
French one
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...gene-ARTefakte
German one

Maybe Japanese people never saw that, and therefore it's new for them. We'll get something different anyway, same for German and French people =)

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Originally Posted by Teakwood

Because a translation error is definitely the same as a lie.

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The translators represent the company, their job is to deliver the 100% correct message to the general public. In any case, Square Enix needs to give some answers on the subject.

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Originally Posted by ViciousValentine

The translators represent the company, their job is to deliver the 100% correct message to the general public. In any case, Square Enix needs to give some answers on the subject.

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Translators doesn't represent the company as much as the developers represent their company. They didn't pass along false info, as usual it's just people looking for a scapegoat.

Some of you seriously need a life...its gross. I wish you had to put your real life name on here bc some of you would think twice before posting this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Some of you seriously need a life...its gross. I wish you had to put your real life name on here bc some of you would think twice before posting this nonsense.

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Wasn't that why people threw a bitchfit over on the Blizzard side?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Translators doesn't represent the company as much as the developers represent their company. They didn't pass along false info, as usual it's just people looking for a scapegoat.

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Translator Job Description
Translators convert written material from one or more 'source languages' into the 'target language', ensuring that the translated version conveys the full meaning of the original as clearly as possible. The target language is usually the translator’s mother tongue.

Job duties and tasks

1) Check original texts or confer with authors to ensure that translations retain the content, meaning, and feeling of the original material.

2) Check translations of technical terms and terminology to ensure that they are accurate and remain consistent throughout translation revisions.

3) Proofread, edit, and revise translated materials.

And Japanese > English is well known with having certain things mistranslated not being of lack of proof reading but because of the nature of the native language (Japanese.) It's mostly the English language is very literal when it comes to certain terms, since in actuality it is 'new concept art' being released, but of course people expected it to be 'never before seen concept art' when regarding the term "new.'

If they said 'never before seen', then we'd have a problem.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Some of you seriously need a life...its gross. I wish you had to put your real life name on here bc some of you would think twice before posting this nonsense.

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"Get a life" is the most poorly conceived, non thought out, fall back ad hominem I've ever seen, and you need to stop posting for using it.

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Originally Posted by viion

Says the person spending just as much time on the forum, white knighting what SE do and telling people their opinions are wrong. And not only that, has to hide behind a fake character. Hypocrite +1 lol

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there is a reason i put jenn..... that poster on ignore a long time ago.

Dear OP, you just created a new forum benchmark for being a complete €*&%, congratulations.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

there is a reason i put jenn..... that poster on ignore a long time ago.

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Two different people. This is one of characters on Elexia's account, whom is my BF: Character. as I know her from when I used to play FFXI so I know this isn't a 'jenn' that you keep referring to her as.

Caution!!: This post is not for the faint hearted. You have been warned.

For all the White Knights; I respect and even applaud your devotion. I mean how would Hitler have been able to convince such a vast group of people to believe that Jews were evil. It was thanks to people like you! /clap /clap

You not only pretend that no injustice has been done but redirect it so that third party viewers would be convinced that the evil-doers are the people crying out in anguish from the wrongs done to them.

How dare I! How dare I speak my mind and become angry at SE! I should be ashamed! SE has been nothing but an amazing beacon of hope and light for the future. /endsarcasm

You use convoluted psychology and try to explain away what I hold so dear like it is some child's dream in which I will grow up from. I am an adult, I am no more a child then you are, I am no more a child then those who run SE. I request, nay, I demand to be treated with respect and dignity, of which I have been giving SE since the start of their fiasco. I was like you once. I defended them even with their pathetic excuse for revisions. I stood by idly as they introduced content that was irrelevant and was meant only as a space filler to keep our minds distracted from the real issues.

But no more, this is too blatant, too obscene! You dare defend liars? You are a zealot, a mindless soldier. You are the lowest form of fandom. You are not even worthy to call yourselves gamers. You are puppets. You are akin to the emotionless foot troops of the Garlean Empire. Just die already.

I am no less a fan than you are, and I am thrilled to know that there will be content in 2.0, but isn't that point obvious? Of course there is going to be new content. Of course they will use concept art they made up a long time ago. Why wouldn't they? The issue here is that an error occurred, whether or not it was meant to be a slight or if it was an honest mistake.

Until such amends are made, then my feelings are truly and deeply hurt, and while that may not seem much to you, it is still my right to feel that way.

In conclusion; SE fix your OP or post a new image.

The event is a concept art quiz. Get a clue.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Some of you seriously need a life...its gross. I wish you had to put your real life name on here bc some of you would think twice before posting this nonsense.

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Lets all get a life and be like this guy! So, lets see hes posting on the forums, playing video games and telling people to get a life..

Think before ya speak!

lol at the complaining.. keep it up se and community team, love it =)

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Originally Posted by Rubieus

You not only pretend that no injustice has been done

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They didn't do anything unjust though. Since English is a literal language, you'd have a right to feel insulted if they said it was never before seen artwork.

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You are not even worthy to call yourselves gamers. You are puppets.

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You just described the majority of gamers today sadly. People gobbled up Modern Warfare 2.5 np.

Btw, this is an insult too XD

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...173918&thumb=1
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...183508&thumb=1
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...184505&thumb=1
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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...165707&thumb=1
.... 175 answers = 0

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Originally Posted by Andrien

The event is a concept art quiz. Get a clue.

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Yeah, but it has something regarding 2.0, therefore people were expecting new info..even though E3 is barely 4 weeks away.

Did the concept art appear in any Japanese collectible items? i.e. their CE. If not, then it's new to them.

i.e. Like waiting for a Japanese game to be released in English. It's not a new release, it's been out in Japan already, but it's new to you.

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Originally Posted by Zeno-Ira

lol at the complaining.. keep it up se and community team, love it =)

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Sad thing is, I found this thread more entertaining than XIV has been in the past couple weeks.

Oh NOES! SE reused 1 piece of concept art! I QUIT!

... gimme a goddanged break.

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Originally Posted by Rubieus

Hitler

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Not sure if serious...

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Oh NOES! SE reused 1 piece of concept art! I QUIT!

... gimme a goddanged break.

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NO OTHER COMPANY HAS EVER REUSED CONCEPT ART OR SHOWN OFF THE SAME VIDEO NUMEROUS TIMES. EVER.

EVER.

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Did the concept art appear in any Japanese collectible items? i.e. their CE. If not, then it's new to them.

i.e. Like waiting for a Japanese game to be released in English. It's not a new release, it's been out in Japan already, but it's new to you.

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"New to a select few people!"
XD

Also it wont be "new" to them, they will have likely seen it a million times over, just like we've seen tons of JP onry stuff. I am sure you've seen the EU Tumbler. Its not New!

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Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba

Did the concept art appear in any Japanese collectible items? i.e. their CE. If not, then it's new to them.

i.e. Like waiting for a Japanese game to be released in English. It's not a new release, it's been out in Japan already, but it's new to you.

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Exactly, I don't think Japanese got the Artwork book.... which is a logical reason as to why they got the Behemoth. People always jump to conclusion over a 1 piece of block removed.. Typical.

Can always depend on the FFXIV community to take something harmless and fun and make a big deal out of it. Most of the picture isn't there. Could of added more to the behemoth.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

Can always depend on the FFXIV community to take something harmless and fun and make a big deal out of it. Most of the picture isn't there. Could of added more to the behemoth.

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Exactly.. I'm glad some people see this.. 1 Block removed= OMFG ITS THE SAME AS CE BOOK /rageeeeeeeee ~.~....

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Originally Posted by Elexia

NO OTHER COMPANY HAS EVER REUSED CONCEPT ART OR SHOWN OFF THE SAME VIDEO NUMEROUS TIMES. EVER.

EVER.

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and you have evidence of this, how?


...yeah, that's what I thought.


People on these forums get all worked up about the stupidest things, I swear.