please balance seals per hour

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Personally I would prefer that they take the time to balance the Local Leve system. The alternative is to invest very large amounts of time and Gil for farming or buying the many Mats needed for Grind sessions. And again not all classes have this problem. Bsm, Arm, Gsm and Lwr can easily be leveled from 1 to 50 strictly via Local Leves. I know, I did it.

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What's still unbalanced? I know they made a ton of adjustments with patch 1.22.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

I agree that company leves need to be redesigned and they should allow you to choose which ones you want to do.

The ones where you /poke a monster, I could do them all day.

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should make one to poke people in uldah that are afk and if u find someone who is you make them d/c giving you 100 GC seals.. this would solve the burden of lag and stress in uldah and also give ppl seals ;p

I agree that the seals need to be fix. Seriously at least on my server no one dose choco escorts and you sure as hell dont see anyone doing the company leves. Its one thing to have a time sink but at what point dose it become worthless? As of right now the company leves and well as choco escort is worthless, even camping the NM's for seals isnt worth the time you invest in camping said NM's. I dont know what SE is thinking when they decided to drop this 25k seal on the players. If this is in fact to get the AF weapons it would make more sense to beable to get the key item for less and than making it more work to get the actual things needed to get said AF. I am not asking for it to be easy or free but the hardest part of the quest, job or whatever you want to call it would be the middle and ending for it. As it stands right now players can either spam leves, spam NM's, chocobo escorts or the level 25 dungeon for seals. As it is players are going toward the level 25 dungeon and thats something that SE should have thought of and designed the seals so that they are balanced across the board. As it stands now it makes more sense to spam the level 25 dungeon for seals than do the other seal content.

we dont really need more seals but we do need more access to them.

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Originally Posted by indira

we dont really need more seals but we do need more access to them.

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More access to seals would be more seals. Nonsensical posting going on around these parts.

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Originally Posted by Urthdigger

What's still unbalanced? I know they made a ton of adjustments with patch 1.22.

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They made major improvements to the synthing process. They did absolutely nothing for Local Leves. Local Leves, 40 and above, are virtually impossible to find for several classes.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

They made major improvements to the synthing process. They did absolutely nothing for Local Leves. Local Leves, 40 and above, are virtually impossible to find for several classes.

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I think its perfectly fine i honestly don't think it should be leves for crafters anyway it should be something you invest money into, to make more they should not let ppl lvl to 50 for free.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I can get about 3k seal from toto rak in a hr =/ can do 3 or 4 speed runs in that time. That's exactly why the op is asking for balance. Choco escorts take far to long for an 120-225 seal reward, but its better than leves cause you can do it in 8 mins.

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Just a lil Note: 120-325/350 Seal and good party can farm 325/350 a run for 2k+ in 1hr.. so it not far off form Toto-Then .. how many ppl even know what Pack Chocobo is??? It's rare to see ppl even out there to. Most ppl wont do it becu you need 4+ ppl All lv50 (x4Blm or My LS run it x2Blm/x1PLD/x1WHM) that if you cant get Full party of same GC.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I think its perfectly fine i honestly don't think it should be leves for crafters anyway it should be something you invest money into, to make more they should not let ppl lvl to 50 for free.

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That scenerio is fine for someone like me. I will be 65 in 3 days and am retired. I can afford to play all day and do the things that you suggest. I sincerely doubt 99% of the player base is in the same position. Most have RL responsibilities and can only spend serveral hours a day, at most, playing. So, unless, you are suggesting that they concentrate one 1 Discipline at the expense of the others the Leve System is a great way for them to develope a well rounded character.

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Originally Posted by Rizon

That scenerio is fine for someone like me. I will be 65 in 3 days and am retired. I can afford to play all day and do the things that you suggest. I sincerely doubt 99% of the player base is in the same position. Most have RL responsibilities and can only spend serveral hours a day, at most, playing. So, unless, you are suggesting that they concentrate one 1 Discipline at the expense of the others the Leve System is a great way for them to develope a well rounded character.

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That is fine for battle classes but crafting should not be lvled up for free. It should always be an investment. That way it will weed out the folks who really don't want to do it. I just don't think it would be good for the games economy to let ppl just lvl crafts for free.

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Originally Posted by Firon

That is fine for battle classes but crafting should not be lvled up for free. It should always be an investment. That way it will weed out the folks who really don't want to do it. I just don't think it would be good for the games economy to let ppl just lvl crafts for free.

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I sincerely doubt making crafting easier to level will ruin the game's economy. There are plenty of other things that affect the economy besides crafting. Drops from monsters and gathering perhaps play a far bigger role, but nobody seems to mind that too much when folks discuss battlecraft levelling.

If anything, letting folks level crafts for free from leves is a GOOD thing for the economy, at least as far as keeping synthesis actually profitable (Which I'm guessing is your issue, because the major legitimate concern over an increase in crafters is a decreased price of finished goods from competition). Guildleves allow players to level up their crafts without crafting oodles and oodles of trash.

The requirement to create so much random crap and find some way to get at least some sort of a return out of it is what leads to crafting almost never being profitable in any MMO: You wind up with far much supply than there is demand for, and players eventually wind up selling for less than it costs to make simply because they want to get SOMETHING for return, rather than just dropping the item on the ground.

so on Saturday afternoon i was locked out of toto-rok because of instance congestion. i cant believe there's people who think the methods of attaining seals dont need balancing,lol.

found this in reinhearts thread

Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
こんばんは。
Good evening,

Quote Originally Posted by Millet View Post
軍票軍票の手直しも必要だと感じますがそれとは別にグラカン装備の買取が欲しいですねぇ「100%還元し て！」とは流石に言わないけど交換値の半分、もしくは1/3ぐらいで買取してくれると必要なくなったグラカン装備が倉庫の肥やしにならなくなって助かりま す。
I believe the company seals needs to be fixed but aside from that would like a buy back feature for the grand company gear, not asking to refund 100% but maybe half or even 1/3 of the paid amount being refunded would help alleviate the inventory issue for grand company gears not being used any more.
不要になったグランドカンパニー装備品の軍票との交換については、軍票の入出量のバランスから望まれているような「半分」、「1/3」での交換というのは難しいと考えていますが、実装を検討してみます。
Regarding grand company gears not in use being changed back to seals, from looking at company seals stand point receiving half or 1/3 of the refund is hard but will try to look into this.

軍票に関するスレッドですので、あわせてご報告です。
他のスレッドでもご要望を頂いていたカンパニーリーヴ／キャラバン護衛での軍票取得量ですが、近日実施予定の1.22a HotFixesにて、取得量の引き上げが行われる予定です。
Also since it's related to company seals wanted to let you know that we are planning to have 1.22a HotFixes to increase the amount of company seals obtainable from company leve's and caravan defense.

また何かあれば、フィードバックをお願いします。
Please leave feedback if you have anything else, thanks

And don't forget this:

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こんばんは。
Good evening,

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蛮神武器も納品対象にしてｗ
かぶりの救済措置として、無いよりはマシだ。
Please make it possible to store primal weapons, it's better to have this to avoid the dupe issue

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イフリート武器については、マテリア化できるようになったこと、より性能の高い装備が追加されたことから、1.22bにて「分捕品調達」の納品アイテムにイフリート武器が追加されることになりました。
For Ifrit weapons along with being able to be spirit bonded and better equipment being released from 1.22b we will include Ifrit weapons as items you can store Sorry had wrong info... says you can supply Ifrit weapons under Supply like where you turn in Instance Raid weapons/gears...

1.22bではイフリート武器のみですが、今後の状況を鑑み、
モーグリ武器／ガルーダ武器についても、同様の対応を行うかどうかの検討していきます。
In 1.22b it's only for Ifrit weapons but checking the situation later on we will look into addressing the same for Moogle/Garuda weapons as well.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post698172

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Originally Posted by Felis

And don't forget this:


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post698172

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yes, ty. i was hoping they would add the SH gear to the list as well since i have some of it that i will never use.

In the upcoming patch 1.22a hotfix, we will be increasing the amount of seals rewarded from Grand Company leves and caravan security quests.

Please keep the feedback coming!

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

In the upcoming patch 1.22a hotfix, we will be increasing the amount of seals rewarded from Grand Company leves and caravan security quests.

Please keep the feedback coming!

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A hotfix huh? I figured it was something simple like an .xml edit or something, good news!

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

In the upcoming patch 1.22a hotfix, we will be increasing the amount of seals rewarded from Grand Company leves and caravan security quests.

Please keep the feedback coming!

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Very awesome! Hoping this adjustment will indeed balance things out with comparison to Toto. I really need to start getting some seals for a certain key item.

Any chance that seals or EXP rewards will ever be added into Hamlet?

IMO they should lower the reward for toto weapons and increase the reward for escort missions. Mantain DH rewards but make at least 8 weapons drop normally, so everyone can get one.

Its pretty lame we are grinding a level 30 dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

In the upcoming patch 1.22a hotfix, we will be increasing the amount of seals rewarded from Grand Company leves and caravan security quests.

Please keep the feedback coming!

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Wonderful news! We're starting to get a lot of different avenues for getting seals solo or in groups =)

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Originally Posted by Majidah

IMO they should lower the reward for toto weapons and increase the reward for escort missions. Mantain DH rewards but make at least 8 weapons drop normally, so everyone can get one two.

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fixed it a bit
Myself wasn't in DH lately, but in my LS people doing it with a 4 member party.

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Originally Posted by Felis

fixed it a bit
Myself wasn't in DH lately, but in my LS people doing it with a 4 member party.

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I heard that's pretty rough, never tried it myself though

Awesome news. Hopefully in a patch down the line they can modify those "takes an entire 15 minutes even when you really could have made it 5-7 minutes" missions, those things are a drag.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

In the upcoming patch 1.22a hotfix, we will be increasing the amount of seals rewarded from Grand Company leves and caravan security quests.

Please keep the feedback coming!

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Didn't we just have hotfix 1.22a back on May 15th, 2012?

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Originally Posted by Majidah

I heard that's pretty rough, never tried it myself though

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I think the secret here is a lot of job-switching. Certain set of jobs for running, certain set for Ogre, certain set for Batty, etc. I can respect some people wanting to do it this way, but me, I just want to stick as one job for an entire run.

But yes, a bit of tweaing for seal rewardments is definately a good idea all around. And will help breathe life into old mechanics that may have been tossed aside.

DH is so easy now you can tank Batrall straight up with no healer.

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

Didn't we just have hotfix 1.22a back on March 15th, 2012?

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Wat./tenchar

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

Didn't we just have hotfix 1.22a back on March 15th, 2012?

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There is prolly something in 1.22b that they want players to be Adjusted to the new changes for.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

Wonderful news! We're starting to get a lot of different avenues for getting seals solo or in groups =)

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I really wouldnt call this wonderful news as they may have increased it by 50 extra seals, but you never know till we try it. I am willing to bet the increase in seals is very little, so I dont have my hopes up about it.

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you can get up to 500 for 9 cargo safe. I wonder if they'll still have the +% bonus that you can earn :O

Company leve seals are based on difficulty and the objective, too. Hopefully that means the 15-minute ones give a worthwhile amount.

actually the patch notes just says the "bonus" seals for GC leves were adjusted. So unless the bonus rewards are more than the actual leve rewards it's still only gonna be like 600-800 seals/hr.

And now toto rak is on 15 min timer, boooo

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Originally Posted by viion

And now toto rak is on 15 min timer, boooo

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Takes my friend and I about 11 minutes on our fastest runs to do. If we lazily do the dungeon it can take about 14 mins, so I'm not too torn up about this.

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Originally Posted by Darte

Takes my friend and I about 11 minutes on our fastest runs to do. If we lazily do the dungeon it can take about 14 mins, so I'm not too torn up about this.

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Oh I thought it was 15 mins after exiting.

Pfft no prob then.

On 5 stars GC leves I'm seeing about 190 to 240 seals per run, seems to be determined by performance and difficulty settings. 90 base, 100 for stars and then another 50 for performance.

Still, 190-240 per 15 minutes (shorter jumps between the /poke leve) is better than farming NMs. I cant speak for the Toto runs, haven't done them for seals.

Roughly eying it, I'd still think totorak wins.

My buddy and I farm at least 3 runs before returning to uldah to turn in items. Between the both of us, we get *at least* 2k seals or more.
Used to take us 11 minutes but now we can probably slow ourselves down to 15 so we don't have to wait much (if at all) to re-enter.

So in 45 minutes we've earned roughly 2k seals between the both of us.
I havent done caravan after this patch, but according to the notes: the high level rewards 500 for a perfect run. Assuming a perfect run, the quest is still on a 15 minute timer. So really in about the same 45 minutes of time, you should be able to finish 3 escorts.
500x3 = 1500 seals for 45 minutes of work.
Again, I haven't tried choco escorts in a while, but I remember that there were occasional bonuses given to the seals on random runs. If i recall correctly, the max for a perfect normal run was 150? and 250 for one of the random bonus ones. Never figured out whether it was triggered somehow or completely random.

Either way, if the choco escorts provide a bonus to seals, the bonus would have to exceed 500 seals over the course of 3 runs in order to hit that 2k mark to make it *just* comparable to totorak runs. Thats assuming every single run is perfect mind you, whereas in totrak you are pretty much guaranteed 5x Average of 200~250 item seals and a chance of random 300 seal items from chests around the map.

If someone get report how much bonus seals they are getting, i can see how well worth it, or not it is to do escorts.

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Originally Posted by Zyph

Oh I thought it was 15 mins after exiting.

Pfft no prob then.

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I thought it was 15 mins too.

Doesnt it usually say on dungeons 5 mins for a loss, 15 mins for a win? Even on Primals its like this. but toto was always like 5 mins for both.

am prolly wrong XD if its 15 mins from original entry then that is nothing !

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Originally Posted by viion

am prolly wrong XD if its 15 mins from original entry then that is nothing !

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Can confirm: it is 15 minutes from entry. An duo running at average speed will complete it in about that time, so no real change from before. If you were speed running it at 10-14 mins then you have to wait a bit outside. That is all