Valentione's Day Items

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Originally Posted by Jumper

Part of my dislike for the dress is how it's going to hang on a femroe over how the vest will look. If you look at like, the princess dress, or any big skirt'ed armor, they've rigged the armor model REALLY high on the waist compared to other races.

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I'm not sure if it's the height exactly, but I've definitely noticed that the angle of skirts on Roegadyn is tilted forward compared to other races, so they sit awkwardly forward at the front and the hem doesn't hang down evenly.

(The princess dress is huge and too high on the waist for everyone - I suspect it was modelled for Lalafell first. This was a screenshot I'd taken a while back of it on my Midlander and a photoshopped attempt to make it look better.)

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Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth

'Well *I* don't see that many people using the *insert 2B or bunny suit sets here* so obviously they were not a big deal and so I don't see why the devs should waste their time on this whole gender-gear issue.'

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Most people I know who use the items that have become unrestricted, like the 2B attire or the bunny suit, tend to use them in private.

No matter what, the gender issue will never go away, but at least SE is making a conscious effert to make things fair, I think. I personally feel the only reason this is an issue at the moment is because a vast majority of people who play female characters are stating they don't like the dress, even before they can try it on. And people who advocate for "gender equality" are quick to point out that the male version of something is actually unique by comparison, this time.

But how unique is it really? It's just another suit jacket with slacks; but it does feel like more effort was put into it so it would feel "less plain". The difference being though, that dress physics tend to vary, whereas the suits tend to remain the same, so people have an easier time visualizing the male outfit over the female one.

The bottom line is this, people's personal preferences aside. Modeling for each race and gender takes time, except for lalafells since they "share" a model. But, we are being given two gender-locked outfits, both of which look like they were give equal time and effort in designing. That is equality. No matter what people are gonna find something to complain about, it similarly happened with the Spriggan outfit too. I think females complained the top was "closed" and they got shorts and "stockings" again. Guys on the other hand were happy to get another capri style pant. But no one can deny that this is SE being fairer then they have in the past.

Two things of note I wanna mention that I remember seeing.

One, I think I saw someone mention gender locked hairstyles, besides the recent Ivalice hairstyles, I dont think any hairstyle has been gender locked since before Heavensward's release or a little after if anything.

And Two, I think the main reason Y'shtola got a new outfit over some of the other Scions isn't because they wanted to make more female glamd, it has more to do with her being FFXIV's poster child; so she will always get the "good shite" lol.

EDIT: I hate my phones auto correct.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

One, I think I saw someone mention gender locked hairstyles, besides the recent Ivalice hairstyles, I dont think any hairstyle has been gender locked since before Heavensward's release or a little after if anything.

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That was me.

The hairstyles aren't actually locked but the ones added as HoH/Eureka prizes were more likely to appeal to female characters, and originated in the hairstyle design contest as female designs.

People complained about this favouring female characters, even though the equivalent male entries were already in the game for free - and adding the female ones as rare rewards meant that (1) it was harder to get them and (2) people who got it and didn't want it - eg. because they had male characters - could potentially make gil selling it.

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Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth

And the whole 'the set you take automatically switches to the gender your character is' is also... terrible. They just need to step away from gender-locking sets of gear completely.

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Yea, the single-item rewards are really the worst version of it - an item shouldn't drastically change its appearance when the player equips it.

At least these gender-exclusive versions have the option to be more easily be completed in the future.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That was me.

The hairstyles aren't actually locked but the ones added as HoH/Eureka prizes were more likely to appeal to female characters, and originated in the hairstyle design contest as female designs.

People complained about this favouring female characters, even though the equivalent male entries were already in the game for free - and adding the female ones as rare rewards meant that (1) it was harder to get them and (2) people who got it and didn't want it - eg. because they had male characters - could potentially make gil selling it.

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It's not a "fair" comparison by any means, but the equivalent hairstyles were added to PvP and the Ishgard Restoration. Far easier than HoH or Eureka, but there is still a barrier.

The ones you are referencing are, Gyr Abanian Plait(HoH) and Form and Function(Eureka). The equivalent hairstyles are Style for Hire(PvP) and Modern Legend(Ishgard). All 4 are the contest hairstyles.

Here is a list for anyone interested in locating any hairstyle.

https://ffxivcollect.com/hairstyles

Honestly I think the complaint, for me at least, is that there isn't just an option for us to choose. Not all women like dresses. I hate wearing them myself, and the dress doesn't suit my main. It'll be great for an alt of mine, but I'd like the ability to choose the men's set for my female character...and well, we were told they'd stop gender-locking/un-gender lock things. Having the first holiday of the year have two great glams that are gender locked kinda undermines that promise. Not to mention that not all women like dresses, nor all men suits. No point in arguing with each other, when I think it's honestly just easier to say that all people have different preferences. My preference for the suit is strong enough to get me on the forums at last, because women have no options like this set men are getting - the 'best man's' set isn't great at all, and there's...the GSM vest? That you need to be an 80GSM for and can only wear as that job. Men do need some better glams, but it doesn't hurt for women to be able to wear them, as well. The sets are nice, and I'm grateful for them - they're both so good looking. I do just...wish we could pick which one we want, no matter our character's gender. Because the sets are so good!

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Originally Posted by Just_Jak

Honestly I think the complaint, for me at least, is that there isn't just an option for us to choose. Not all women like dresses. I hate wearing them myself, and the dress doesn't suit my main. It'll be great for an alt of mine, but I'd like the ability to choose the men's set for my female character...and well, we were told they'd stop gender-locking/un-gender lock things. Having the first holiday of the year have two great glams that are gender locked kinda undermines that promise. Not to mention that not all women like dresses, nor all men suits. No point in arguing with each other, when I think it's honestly just easier to say that all people have different preferences. My preference for the suit is strong enough to get me on the forums at last, because women have no options like this set men are getting - the 'best man's' set isn't great at all, and there's...the GSM vest? That you need to be an 80GSM for and can only wear as that job. Men do need some better glams, but it doesn't hurt for women to be able to wear them, as well. The sets are nice, and I'm grateful for them - they're both so good looking. I do just...wish we could pick which one we want, no matter our character's gender. Because the sets are so good!

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Your sentiment is warranted, everyone should be able to wear whatever they want, regardless of gender. But we do have to take into account that these items do take time to impliment. We also have to take into account that when anyone, designs outfits or uniform for each gender, the go to is usually a suit for males and a dress for females, since that is the easiest differentiation method we have. The stick figures on bathrooms could easily be reversed, but they are too engrained in our minds otherwise.

However, one thing you said is a bit counterintuitive to the current situation, though I don't think you meant it that way.

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Men do need some better glams, but it doesn't hurt for women to be able to wear them, as well.

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This statement is or was actually how the devs initially viewed the glamours they created. They'd make an outfit for males and think it would look good on females so unlocked it. However, they would not do the same with the sets made for females, they left those gender-locked. This is what created that divide and spiraled to a head with the Bunny Suit and Thavnairian outfits. Gender locking isn't good, but as long as an equality is maintained, one set male one female, the heart of the issue is pacified.

The rewards for this event are "fair" at least in regards to maintaining base equality. Glamours for retainers aside, which SE has addressed.

I do however have a question, that I feel might show how arbitrary this topic is for the current event.

This isn't the first time we've had gender-locked event rewards. And by that I mean the items are seperate, not that they have a different look but are the same item. we've gotten them before in the following events:

Valentine's Day - the male and female aprons. The male version just being a reskin of the culinarian's level 50 outfit. The female version was a complete origional.

Little Ladies Day - the Songbird and Senechal attire, and the Lady and Lord's Suikan, as well as their respective clogs. The Songbird and Senechal outfits are again a "dress" and a "suit" on equal footing, and the Suikan's are very similar too, hemp length being different though. The only major difference being the socks on the female clogs.

Moonfire Faire - various swimsuits and yukatas, all of which are on equal footing with another compared to real world attire. Males even get flat wood clogs and females sockless ones. But at the same time, why can't males get a one-piece swim suit and females a more sporty look with shirts and a crop top?

All Saint's Wake - the Werewolf outfits are unique with the female outfit being "cuter" and getting a skirt again? Why does a werewolf need a skirt. Why can't males be cute? Also of special mention is the Witch's attire which while one item, is a whole outfit on females compared to males since females have the skirt attached.

The Garo Event also had unique outfits for some of the female jobs, that arguably were better than the male versions.

So it's not like any of this is new. And in most cases the same rules applied, you could only receive the one for your gender, but maybe get the other gendered one later, through either the event or the Calamity Salvager. So why the uproar now. In all of the previous instances the gear was fair, something equally nice for males and females, but no one ever really complained, at least not to this much of a degree.

Honestly, I really do think it's a case of the female outfit being really disliked among the people who play female characters. And because they dislike it people are clamoring for the unlock, probably because the male version is similarly themed but less busy. I'm not saying gender-locking is good, or that things shouldn't be unlocked, but I dont think this outfit is the proper platform to hard press the issue on. I think people just don't like the female version and don't wanna just say that and move on. Honestly, how often do you wear the other event specific items, that usually have specific themes that people might not wanna wear on a daily basis.

Not every piece of gear will be for everyone, bit that doesnt mean the devs are being unfair.

There was an interview were Yoshida was quoted saying they were going to be easing off and removing restrictions. It got people's hopes WAY way up. Then data was found with sets being unlocked. People got... VERY excited. Then the 2B set appeared.

People have been... chomping at the bit. The thought that 'hey... maybe JUST maybe... the devs have learned that we do not like or want sets to be this way IN GENERAL and they should stop doing it' as a whole. That we, the players, thought the overall feeling from the developers had started to move AWAY from this from seeing the mentioned interview and the 'found data' and so on... we are A TAD BIT DISAPPOINTED about all of this. And these forums are EXACTLY THE PLACE to voice our feelings on the matter. This is where FEEDBACK is supposed to be. It isn't just 'hey... so the dress is ugly so... NOW we're going to complain'... Nah. It ain't that. It's build up from other things.

It's honestly disheartening to see so many people rag on the dress. I know it's not as unique a look as the vest is but I love it. I really wish I could use it.

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Originally Posted by Sated

It's honestly disheartening to see so many people rag on the dress. I know it's not as unique a look as the vest is but I love it. I really wish I could use it.

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My main gripe about the dress is that those kind of skirts don't translate well to taller races. As Iscah pointed out, the skirts tend to flare and angle awkwardly as they're designed for the more "kawaii waifu" body types like Au Ra. It's not BAD, it's just an awkward look and Viera look downright amazing in shirts and slacks. Hell, I'd even take turning off the ears to wear the guys' hat (although the ladies' hat also looks pretty dapper). But hey, if people like the dress and want to wear it, male or female, that's cool, too, just not my thing.

EDIT: Also, good gods that princess dress looks terrible, thank the gods I never bought it.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

My main gripe about the dress is that those kind of skirts don't translate well to taller races. As Iscah pointed out, the skirts tend to flare and angle awkwardly as they're designed for the more "kawaii waifu" body types like Au Ra. It's not BAD, it's just an awkward look and Viera look downright amazing in shirts and slacks. Hell, I'd even take turning off the ears to wear the guys' hat (although the ladies' hat also looks pretty dapper). But hey, if people like the dress and want to wear it, male or female, that's cool, too, just not my thing.

EDIT: Also, good gods that princess dress looks terrible, thank the gods I never bought it.

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If you notice, the images to show us how the dress looks on females, only shows them on the smaller races, noe Roe, Elezen, or Highlander.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

If you notice, the images to show us how the dress looks on females, only shows them on the smaller races, noe Roe, Elezen, or Highlander.

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I did, which is usually a good indicator that they look... off on taller races. Much like how if there's not explicitly a Hroth/Viera showing off an event headgear, it won't work for us xD

Mostly talking from experience with my once-favorite High House Bustle and other pieces with similar poofy skirts.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

My main gripe about the dress is that those kind of skirts don't translate well to taller races. As Iscah pointed out, the skirts tend to flare and angle awkwardly as they're designed for the more "kawaii waifu" body types like Au Ra. It's not BAD, it's just an awkward look and Viera look downright amazing in shirts and slacks. Hell, I'd even take turning off the ears to wear the guys' hat (although the ladies' hat also looks pretty dapper). But hey, if people like the dress and want to wear it, male or female, that's cool, too, just not my thing.

EDIT: Also, good gods that princess dress looks terrible, thank the gods I never bought it.

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Understandable; I feel that height distortion as elezen even with pants sometimes, or things like the urban coat which just feel a bit too long from the back.
Stuff like clipping and weird lengths don't really bother me much (but that princess dress would be hard to ignore).

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Originally Posted by Eloah

I do however have a question, that I feel might show how arbitrary this topic is for the current event.

This isn't the first time we've had gender-locked event rewards. And by that I mean the items are seperate, not that they have a different look but are the same item. we've gotten them before in the following events:

Valentine's Day - the male and female aprons. The male version just being a reskin of the culinarian's level 50 outfit. The female version was a complete origional.

Little Ladies Day - the Songbird and Senechal attire, and the Lady and Lord's Suikan, as well as their respective clogs. The Songbird and Senechal outfits are again a "dress" and a "suit" on equal footing, and the Suikan's are very similar too, hemp length being different though. The only major difference being the socks on the female clogs.

Moonfire Faire - various swimsuits and yukatas, all of which are on equal footing with another compared to real world attire. Males even get flat wood clogs and females sockless ones. But at the same time, why can't males get a one-piece swim suit and females a more sporty look with shirts and a crop top?

All Saint's Wake - the Werewolf outfits are unique with the female outfit being "cuter" and getting a skirt again? Why does a werewolf need a skirt. Why can't males be cute? Also of special mention is the Witch's attire which while one item, is a whole outfit on females compared to males since females have the skirt attached.

The Garo Event also had unique outfits for some of the female jobs, that arguably were better than the male versions.

So it's not like any of this is new. And in most cases the same rules applied, you could only receive the one for your gender, but maybe get the other gendered one later, through either the event or the Calamity Salvager. So why the uproar now. In all of the previous instances the gear was fair, something equally nice for males and females, but no one ever really complained, at least not to this much of a degree.

Honestly, I really do think it's a case of the female outfit being really disliked among the people who play female characters. And because they dislike it people are clamoring for the unlock, probably because the male version is similarly themed but less busy. I'm not saying gender-locking is good, or that things shouldn't be unlocked, but I dont think this outfit is the proper platform to hard press the issue on. I think people just don't like the female version and don't wanna just say that and move on. Honestly, how often do you wear the other event specific items, that usually have specific themes that people might not wanna wear on a daily basis.

Not every piece of gear will be for everyone, bit that doesnt mean the devs are being unfair.

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This isn't the first time people have complained about genderlocks on event gear. I was definitely unhappy about the Endless Summer set being shorts for boys and briefs for girls again, and I'm pretty sure there was a discussion about it. I didn't like the werewolf skirt either, or the Spriggan pants turning into short-shorts, and I'm sure I've repeated my dislike for pants-becoming-miniskirts in general far too many times by now.

I feel like the Songbird and Suikan outfits really are good counterparts - the same outfit adapted to suit each gender.

I don't mind the recycled CUL gear really - it's still cute, and I got the pants I needed for my alt's White Rabbit costume out of it.

Also I know people love to complain about the witch outfit not giving pants for the male version, but how hard is it to put on one of the existing pairs of plain pants that would have inevitably been recycled for the model anyway? People would probably complain about that instead.

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I think people just don't like the female version and don't wanna just say that and move on.

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I think we are saying that. We're not avoiding it.

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Honestly, how often do you wear the other event specific items, that usually have specific themes that people might not wanna wear on a daily basis.

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That's ultimately part of the issue here. Female characters get a "cute Valentine's dress" with hearts and frills. Males get a waistcoat that is going to be useful throughout the year. We don't have anything in that style currently - or not broadly available, at least.

I mean, if you want a similar look, the free company tabard looks kinda like the Valentione coat, but you would be missing the tie and the white sleeves.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

This isn't the first time people have complained about genderlocks on event gear. I was definitely unhappy about the Endless Summer set being shorts for boys and briefs for girls again, and I'm pretty sure there was a discussion about it. I didn't like the werewolf skirt either, or the Spriggan pants turning into short-shorts, and I'm sure I've repeated my dislike for pants-becoming-miniskirts in general far too many times by now.

I feel like the Songbird and Suikan outfits really are good counterparts - the same outfit adapted to suit each gender.

I don't mind the recycled CUL gear really - it's still cute, and I got the pants I needed for my alt's White Rabbit costume out of it.

Also I know people love to complain about the witch outfit not giving pants for the male version, but how hard is it to put on one of the existing pairs of plain pants that would have inevitably been recycled for the model anyway? People would probably complain about that instead.
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I think we are saying that. We're not avoiding it.
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That's ultimately part of the issue here. Female characters get a "cute Valentine's dress" with hearts and frills. Males get a waistcoat that is going to be useful throughout the year. We don't have anything in that style currently - or not broadly available, at least.

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I'm not trying to say people haven't voiced displeasure with past outfits, but it does seem like people are a bit more "hurt" than in previous events. I think you are right that part of the issue might be that the female version is more "on theme" than the male version.

I think a few of the past outfits, as you said, do work nicely together. Which is why I personally am a bit confused, since I thought this years outfits paired well too, and fit the whole suit/dress theme. But the overall unpopularity of the dress is just rather surprising.

As for the CUL apron and the Witches attire. The issue there is more about the recycling effort. Both male versions are just recyles of already established outfits, with a few holiday embellishments added. Whereas the female version is 100% original for the Valentione's apron or a lot more edited for the Witch's attire. That's why people got upset with those since it wasn't a case of just disliking the outfit, but it felt like SE put in no effort for the male versions. This issue has obviously gotten better.

I've read comments, such as yours, that are just simple "I'm not pleased" comments, that just show your overall dissatisfaction. But there are some other comments that I have read that make it sound like they want the devs skewered alive for doing this.

relax ladies, let the males have the good glam for a sec :)

So despite saying the other day that I thought the dress looked more like an apron, and also that I'd like a blouse version of the men's shirt, it didn't quite click at the time...

What I feel like the dress really needs is a blouse under it, so it's more of a pinafore.

It would match the style of the men's design better, both visually and for the era/style of clothing, and it would make sense with that dress shape.

Without changing anything about the dress itself, I think it would make a big difference to the look of the outfit.

I seriously hope they un-genderlock this because the dress is WAYYY too clippy.
Not only is the dress clippy but the pants, don't even rise high enough to use with other items, like the suspenders top without showing belly.

PLEASE SE, please. Give Females access to the vest and males access to the Dress. Just remove the Genderlock!

Begging.

So I got the dress for my Roegadyn alt. The top part looks better than I was expecting, but I don't like the skirt, and the ruffled hem clips straight through her fingers. It's an issue that could have been fixed by making the skirt an inch or two longer.

Also the undyeable parts are a difficult colour that doesn't quite match anything, but is closest to Dark Brown (for which marketboard prices have skyrocketed).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0_22_45_42.jpg
Dress dyed Dark Brown
+ Augmented Torrent Sleeves (Dark Brown)
+ Makai Markswoman's Ribbon (Soot Black)

Not visible here, but I also dyed the tights Soot Black which actually looks a bit greenish next to the brown so it looks like they're slightly transparent. Interesting effect, though I still would have preferred to make them look plain black.)

Also I got the suits for my two Miqo'te characters.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0_01_20_55.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...0_00_46_44.jpg
(I've been wanting this for Zi'aba ever since they announced the event. The brown gives it more of a steampunk vibe than I was expecting it to have.)

As the rage grows in this thread, Yoshi P does an interview speaking how the team is more concerned with actual playable content over cosmetics. Oh how things said years ago come back like a train.

The real travesty y'all should be complaining about is that you can't toss the gear into the armoire.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

The real travesty y'all should be complaining about is that you can't toss the gear into the armoire.

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This is a crime.

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

The real travesty y'all should be complaining about is that you can't toss the gear into the armoire.

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this. This is the only event gear I know of that can't go in it. WTF SE

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Originally Posted by Iscah

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Well, at least it dyes nicely...! with a very specific dye...! Who am I kidding, the vest still looks better lol

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

The real travesty y'all should be complaining about is that you can't toss the gear into the armoire.

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The <kupo>? You can't?

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Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

The real travesty y'all should be complaining about is that you can't toss the gear into the armoire.

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Yeah, as much as I wish the set wasn't genderlocked, this is what I came here to ask about. Why on earth is event gear locked out of the armoire and able to be put in the dresser? This is not acceptable, especially for those of us who want to buy the opposite-gendered set for retainers or in case we phantasia later.

The armoir is tied to achievements. There's no achievement for this holiday yet. Maybe once the voting ends and we see the finale?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The armoir is tied to achievements. There's no achievement for this holiday yet. Maybe once the voting ends and we see the finale?

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Hopefully so

I wonder why they didn't show off the new races for the Valentines event NPCs....


https://i.imgur.com/ryvA7HR.jpg
oh....


https://i.imgur.com/jEpvY7P.jpg
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.





It's really lousy that they cant even make event items compatible...

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Originally Posted by DrForester

It's really lousy that they cant even make event items compatible...

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As much as I adore this game, and even the dev team, I agree with you. I mean, c'mon! How hard could it be to code in the H and V heads while creating the *new* stuff, seriously!

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Originally Posted by MaiSuu

I seriously hope they un-genderlock this because the dress is WAYYY too clippy.
Not only is the dress clippy but the pants, don't even rise high enough to use with other items, like the suspenders top without showing belly.

PLEASE SE, please. Give Females access to the vest and males access to the Dress. Just remove the Genderlock!

Begging.

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I sat down as a Viera with the dress on and my god, it was terrible. The thing flares up and out and on the knees, my hands clip through the skirt portion entirely.

I think that's what irk me the most, really. I'd understand past event headgear, or past hairstyles to not be compatible and take a while to redesign for Viera/Hroth heads. But we've gotten a few new hairstyles and plenty of headgear in 5.0 that V/H CAN'T use that it gets disheartnening.

Don't get me wrong, I love my tall bunny limited race, but I was hoping the customization options would distract me from the gender locks, not add more limitations.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I mean, if you want a similar look, the free company tabard looks kinda like the Valentione coat, but you would be missing the tie and the white sleeves.

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"Missing the tie and the white sleeves" is losing the entire look of the outfit though, unless you specifically want it for the two-colour effect and not the style.

That said, I really think they should have used it for Astrid - the child NPCs seem to use resized version of the adult male clothing model, which presumably is why she can't wear the dress. But she seems out of place wearing plain black next to the other two, so the tabard might have been a good workaround for her.

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Originally Posted by MaiSuu

PLEASE SE, please. Give Females access to the vest and males access to the Dress. Just remove the Genderlock!

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I agree with the sentiment but it's not as simple as saying "remove the gender lock" like it's an arbitrary setting they've switched on. They have to take the time to model the other versions.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

Well, at least it dyes nicely...! with a very specific dye...! Who am I kidding, the vest still looks better lol

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Well, of course a partly-undyeable thing is only going to match a very specific dye (or nothing at all) if you're trying to make it look one colour. The waistcoat has the same issue - you either use the specific match or you pick something that complements it. Or contrasts, if you prefer.

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Originally Posted by Sophie_Lo

As much as I adore this game, and even the dev team, I agree with you. I mean, c'mon! How hard could it be to code in the H and V heads while creating the *new* stuff, seriously!

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They've said from the start that it was a design choice - they're not designed to be compatible with hats, old or new. They get things that sit on top of the hair without altering it, but they don't get hats that need to switch off part of the hairstyle when equipped. (Plus I don't think there'd be any way to place the female hat on Viera without clipping through their ears really weirdly.)

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Originally Posted by Gula

I sat down as a Viera with the dress on and my god, it was terrible. The thing flares up and out and on the knees, my hands clip through the skirt portion entirely.

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It does the same on Roegadyn. I wanted a screenshot of her sitting, but... nope.

It reminds me a bit of that Korean dress we never got here because of the dreadful clipping on the skirt.

Does it work any better on the smaller races?

The silliest part (other than the whole race incompatibility garbage) is that Astrid herself wears a suit. Sure it's not the event reward suit but come on. The female representative in the event wears a suit and yet fem characters can't wear the reward suit? I know it's not as simple as just flipping a switch or anything but seeing Astrid standing there in her suit not 20 feet from the event vendor just exemplifies how dumb the gender restrictions are like little else does.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

The silliest part (other than the whole race incompatibility garbage) is that Astrid herself wears a suit. Sure it's not the event reward suit but come on. The female representative in the event wears a suit and yet fem characters can't wear the reward suit? I know it's not as simple as just flipping a switch or anything but seeing Astrid standing there in her suit not 20 feet from the event vendor just exemplifies how dumb the gender restrictions are like little else does.

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I'm pretty sure it's just the Best Man's attire which has been gender neutral for a good while now.

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In terms of values and our players, it’s a time when there’s a lot of changes in perspectives, but we can’t ignore the people who refuse to make changes in their values. There may be players who do not want to see male players wear attire that’s traditionally worn on females...We do want to respect freedom of self expression and that people want to dress the same way, but we do need to consider and be mindful of those who look at people dressed in a certain way and manage how they perceive things.

Let me give an example: I was heading to the office on a Saturday and I saw a situation that made me very sad. I was trying to go into the office and I was waiting at a red light. I saw a high schooler coming from the other side of the road in their school uniform. It seemed that they were biologically male at birth but they were wearing a sailor fuku, which is traditionally female attire. In Japanese high schools, there’s more and more schools that are accommodating for freedom of not being restricted to a specific gender for your uniform...That person probably wanted to present the gender they identified with in their heart...On the other side of the road was a mother and a daughter. The daughter was perhaps 5 years old. As soon as the mother saw the high schooler, she shielded her daughter as if she didn’t want her daughter to see. The high schooler must have been very hurt. Situations like these still happen and there’s areas where there’s not as much understanding.

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-Naoki Yoshida ,May 29th 2019
Source: https://kotaku.com/we-took-a-bold-st...ect-1835098319

Now move the fk on about gender locking and stop crying about it

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

I'm pretty sure it's just the Best Man's attire which has been gender neutral for a good while now.

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Best Man suit is gender neutral from the very start as far as I remember, but I think it's not the point that StriderShinryu tried to bring up.

I'm glad yoshida respects us who believe in traditional values, even though his opinion is the opposite of mine he still respects the fact that there is people who hold very dear thier belief systems.

Besides that I wish they'd focus on getting more headgear wearable for hrothgar and viera, as far as glam complaints go that should be their main focus, but all in all I think the devs do a great job with this game.

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Originally Posted by MaiSuu

PLEASE SE, please. Give Females access to the vest and males access to the Dress. Just remove the Genderlock!

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So much this please SE we, male characters, want the clippy dress everyone here is complaining about.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

The silliest part (other than the whole race incompatibility garbage) is that Astrid herself wears a suit. Sure it's not the event reward suit but come on. The female representative in the event wears a suit and yet fem characters can't wear the reward suit? I know it's not as simple as just flipping a switch or anything but seeing Astrid standing there in her suit not 20 feet from the event vendor just exemplifies how dumb the gender restrictions are like little else does.

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Wouldn't this be the perfect time to make a statement and start glamouring Astrid's suit as a female? The devs have ways of tracking which items get glamoured the most, so if a suit get's in the top 10 female glams they will notice there is a demand for such outfits. The same goes for male characters. Rock that 2B dress and make it popular.

I understand why someone using existing glamours would be asking for more variety to suit one's style, but ignoring existing glamours and asking for more such gear that will also be ignored seems a bit wasteful.