Which Job you want next?

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Originally Posted by DonovanLifeweaver

none to be honest. 3 tanks 3 heal and alot of dps is more than enough. considering half the players cant figure out how to tank heal or dps... dont see them struggling even more xD

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Maintaining or even reducing the number of roles will not improve the average player quality in any noticeable way, if at all.

That said, if we're to believe the devs, adding enough jobs more may eventually ensure that everyone can play any job, since apparently all have to share from a finite amount of space for skills that we've already hit the limits of, meaning that each additional job will have to reduce the skill count (and thereby likely the complexity) of the jobs we already have...

Reading the replies here... I thought of seeing chemist play like a ninja or dancer with a mix command... That would be a very interactive play style for healing.

Although I still would prefer songstress as a healer still. That would make a great party with dancer and bard on DPS... Oh and the tank would have to me the Mascot class where you are forced to wear one of the giant costumes as glamor because that is where your defense comes from. Lots of padding in those suits.

I really liked illusionist and elementalist from final fantasy tactics! I don't know how they should implement it as a job for ffxiv though...

I think that geomancer would be an interesting addition to the game, deploying different kinds of fields to buff or debuff.

Shaman would also be interesting, using totems to create auras or something.

since this thread si about adding more classes when theres already more than enough.... mediator or mime. locked at 50

demon hunter and warocks too?

1. a 4th healer

2. a unique ff14 job.

3. Beastmaster, limited.

I would honestly love to see a more tanky (but still squishy) melee based healer.

Garlean Heavy Gunblade user, melee DPS.

https://i.imgur.com/kdca8ma.png

Gunbreaker job quest trainer is clearly very bias, how could you honestly describe that weapon or the fighting style used as "just a gun with a blade attached"? :confused:

Mystic Knight/Rune Fencer for Tank
Chemist for Healer (like the idea for mix being kinda like ninjitsu)
Time Mage for Magic DPS (don't really want to see them as a healer)
Viking/Pirate for melee DPS
Some sort of Rifle/Musket Ranged DPS class, or possibly Crossbow

Some Ideas -
Lifestream Priestess - Inspiration: Aerith Final Fantasy 7
A Healing/Offensive Support Class.
Aerith's limit breaks healed, but also increased limit break meters of her party members. This could translate into buffing character's offensive abilities or, straight up, having the ability to use stacks of their resource to increase a party's limit break meters. More limit breaks are an interesting mechanic.

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Feral - Inspiration: Gau Final Fantasy 6
A Pugilist DPS Class
Unarmed attacks and beast stances that focus on different abilities. This class would be all about learning monster abilities and stance switching. Have the abilities do different things depending on the stance. Bear Stance - Single target DPS, Hawk Stance - Faster attacks with toughness debuffs, Bandersnatch stance - AoE.

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White Knight - Inspiration: Cecil Final Fantasy 4
Tank role.
Now, you're saying, "Cecil was a Paladin!" And, yes, you're right, he was. However Cecil was a TRUE Paladin. In order for him to become a Paladin he needed to go through an ordeal at Mt. Ordeal and he changed from a Dark Knight into a Paladin. This is the evolution of Light over Darkness. It is the advanced form of a Paladin that surpassed the Dark Knight. This would straddle the line between Tank and DPS - A more offensive warrior of purity, which is a unique twist on Good and Light always being passive.

- class that use whip. like quincy from FF8
- time mage sounds great, could end up as support dps though.
- iam down for beastmaster class
- why we still dont have a class that dual wield a sword?
- chemist of course, also fit for garlemald setting
- i want spellcaster class that specialize in wind magic =/

Blue Mage lol

5.x

Onion Knight or Berserker as PvP enabled limited job.

6.0

Either Chemist or Time Mage for healer. Oracle (Mystic) for caster DPS.

Necromancer

Prolly been said in this thread a million times, but blue mage as a real job

At some point in 5.x I'd like to see BLU elevated from their limited job role.

Healer: Chemist. Originally this was the healer for 3.0 but ended up repurposed as Machinist. I think they got distracted by the gun. Mixing potions mid battle for various buffs and healing would be epic. It not being Alchemist could easily be explained as the medicinal properties are directly tied to the magical properties involved and thus are short-lived, unlike potions created by Alchemists. They're essentially combat medics.

DPS: Beastmaster. We've already encountered something akin to it - if not it directly. You could keep the beasts in 3 simple categories like SMN currently is and just let taming beasts become a skin for each category.

none tbh. we already reached a point why they removing stuff from other jobs to make new jobs

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Originally Posted by Levy9

5.x

Onion Knight or Berserker as PvP enabled limited job.

6.0

Either Chemist or Time Mage for healer. Oracle (Mystic) for caster DPS.

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I thought Time Mage was essentially AST, but just renamed?

For me, I would love to see Geomancer or Chemist.
I think FFT even had a Mime or Calculator class. That would also be cool to see in-game.

I would love to see a new kind of Summoner, but for heal. You can give it "healing", "Holy" and "Support" Summons - Healing would be primarily over Summons CDs with 1-2 Minutes Cooldowns and normal healing spells inbetween. It's time we see Summoners with proper Primae fighting, like Bahamut and Phoenix now with the latest updates for the Summoner.

Phoenix was a missed opportunity for a Heal based Summoner anyway. Alternatively, you don't even need a 2. Class - Since Scholar and Summoner are using the same base Class anyway, simply give the Summoner a Healing Stance with Healing Summons.

I’ve been asking for Rune Knight for ages and feel like it would be a perfect addition for FF14. Considering Garleans are based off the Ghestalian Empite from 6, the one dungeon that’s based off Magitek Research Facility, and the similarity between Fordola and Celes.

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Originally Posted by PonifiedBeast

I’ve been asking for Rune Knight for ages and feel like it would be a perfect addition for FF14. Considering Garleans are based off the Ghestalian Empite from 6, the one dungeon that’s based off Magitek Research Facility, and the similarity between Fordola and Celes.

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if they do do rune knight I'd honestly hope it was a healer sorry dps people but healers are taking this. the idea of a healer that can absorb magic to keep going would be kinda cool.

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

if they do do rune knight I'd honestly hope it was a healer sorry dps people but healers are taking this. the idea of a healer that can absorb magic to keep going would be kinda cool.

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that’s the funniest thing I heard of! Yeah,no, the next healer we get will be ranged and use magic like rest we have.

I don’t know, the whole concept of getting hit by magic just screams Tank to me. The only other option I could see is Rune Fencer as a dps but Rune Knight is a favorite of mine so I’m biased.

I would love Beastmaster or Puppetmaster. I am probably in the minority here, but I loved those jobs in FFXI.

I really like the idea of a Geomancer or elementalist type caster or healer. Perhaps, and hopefully not going to confusing, they can set down an AoE of 1 of X (however many thought best) that would change the spells effect. These would have, lets say a 5sec re-cast time, would not be able to stack on each other or mix. Perhaps best to have it the first one places is dominant, so placing a 2nd directly on top would have zero affect, but if it was halfway covered, only the exposed half of the new AoE would be useable. I am not gonna pretend I know the previous games 100% to recall skill names but an example.

Say you learn the spell "Call of the Elements", unable to be cast alone. While in the Fire AoE (which acts like Leylines, with no timer(?), just a self buff) the spell becomes a fire ball with set potency. Should you be in the Water AoE, it becomes a heal. Earth becomes a DoT. This would then in turn play with their other spells as well, making an AoE attack while in fire, an AoE heal in water. Of course they would be given the standard heals that do not require the AoEs, or perhaps just the potency is changed depending on the AoE they are in. Perhaps confusing but least in my head it sounds fun. To make up for constant moving perhaps little to no cast times.

I don't really have a specific job idea in mind, but rather a weapon type. I'd love it if the next melee dps used a whip blade. Like Ivy from Soul Calibur or Seven from Final Fantasy Type 0. I think it'd be a fun weapon lashing out as a whip for aoes or having a couple long ranged attacks it can use while still being mostly melee.

New healer, specifically Chemist would be cool.

A real job advancement system or playable base jobs. As it stands there is a forced linear progression to advanced jobs which makes the whole thing pointless. You can't be an Archer without being a Bard and there is no alternative to Bard as an advanced job. Either allow for Archer to be a real Job all the way to max level with different abilities from Bard or offer an alternative job such as Beastmaster. The same for every base job. Rogue should have a Thief option etc..

Blue Mage, but like, for real this time.

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

A real job advancement system or playable base jobs. As it stands there is a forced linear progression to advanced jobs which makes the whole thing pointless. You can't be an Archer without being a Bard and there is no alternative to Bard as an advanced job. Either allow for Archer to be a real Job all the way to max level with different abilities from Bard or offer an alternative job such as Beastmaster. The same for every base job. Rogue should have a Thief option etc..

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They kinda tried this with SCH/INV, its awfull and they stated it will never happen again because of how it messed up balancing.

Class are a relic of the past they won't waste time and ressources with anymore.

The best we can hope to get is new jobs ans the worst being limited jobs.

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Advance dual jobs for every job currently on game (even a name change). Changing weapons and flavor (and even partyrole) when reaching lvl 90~99, of course is a LOT of work but an expansion just focused on advancing jobs.

Warrior
--> Warrior(Tank) (more tank focused tools)
--> Berserk(DPS) (Dual axes)

WhiteMage
--> WhiteMage(Healer) (moar heals, casing while moving)
--> LightKnight(Tank) (Big hammer, tanks by lots of autoheals and reraise etc (stoneskin back?))

Monk
--> Monk(DPS) (more punches/kicks spikes in damage for dps checks)
--> Adept(MagicDPS) (Mantra hadookens, support heals, growing staff?)

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And so on, you get the idea (and better names), could even be like SCH/SMN so you dont have to level each one but have alternatives half the cost just pushing each default role to their best and an role alternative different way to play.

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Originally Posted by Nariel

They kinda tried this with SCH/INV, its awfull and they stated it will never happen again because of how it messed up balancing.

Class are a relic of the past they won't waste time and ressources with anymore.

The best we can hope to get is new jobs ans the worst being limited jobs.


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Yeah its sad but youre right, which is why the cross class skill system got overhauled. It wasn;t the case at the beginning though, right after arr launch, they were even talking about making all the jobs cross role splits ie DRK rooting from GLA etc. I think that system could work, but for another game. For instance, limiting a job by just the weapon it uses could have been changed to a more ff5/11/tactics approach, where weaponskills were different from job abilities and spells. Problem is though, there still would only be a few classes that def would have to be a primary or base for special roles, like healer/tank. It would probably be a nightmare to balance though, considering there would be over 50+ job combinayions, out of 7 dow and 7 dom

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Originally Posted by jazo

Advance dual jobs for every job currently on game (even a name change). Changing weapons and flavor (and even partyrole) when reaching lvl 90~99, of course is a LOT of work but an expansion just focused on advancing jobs.

Warrior
--> Warrior(Tank) (more tank focused tools)
--> Berserk(DPS) (Dual axes)

WhiteMage
--> WhiteMage(Healer) (moar heals, casing while moving)
--> LightKnight(Tank) (Big hammer, tanks by lots of autoheals and reraise etc (stoneskin back?))

Monk
--> Monk(DPS) (more punches/kicks spikes in damage for dps checks)
--> Adept(MagicDPS) (Mantra hadookens, support heals, growing staff?)

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And so on, you get the idea (and better names), could even be like SCH/SMN so you dont have to level each one but have alternatives half the cost just pushing each default role to their best and an role alternative different way to play.

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This is a really precise example of the system I was talking about, naming conventions aside(though that WAR split is really close.) There would be a lot more weapon style choices though, with WAR being able to use sword n board, but it really shined with 2h great weapons, etc. Things like Aetherflow could be weaponskills tied to battlebooks for instance, instead of smn/sch only using just that weapon type.

Still would like a chocobo mounted class. Some kind of water mage would also be nice.

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Originally Posted by IvoYaridovich

Puppetmaster. I'd love to see Puppetmaster now looking at the changes they made to summoner as a class that has far more control over what their pet does without having to worry about it randomly biting the dust from some random attack that just wrecked it. Plus having different puppets for different situations just seems fun.

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Gods, I'd kill for PUP. Was such a great and versatile job in XI. Loved the swapping of components and frames.

There is already 4 melee dps and they used the argument that a ranged dps was needed to balance things. So, don't expect any melee DPS. So far we have:
4 tanks
3 healers
4 melee DPS
3 ranged DPS
3 casters
1 limited job/caster

They have to release a healer, at the time of the 6.0, this will make 6 years since the last healer job, so it's the most in need role for a new job.
After that, I'd guess another caster. Or maybe another ranged DPS but I doubt it since they just released one, but to balance everything, that's what they have to release.

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Originally Posted by AlliciaCapulet

There is already 4 melee dps and they used the argument that a ranged dps was needed to balance things. So, don't expect any melee DPS. So far we have:
4 tanks
3 healers
4 melee DPS
3 ranged DPS
3 casters
1 limited job/caster

They have to release a healer, at the time of the 6.0, this will make 6 years since the last healer job, so it's the most in need role for a new job.
After that, I'd guess another caster. Or maybe another ranged DPS but I doubt it since they just released one, but to balance everything, that's what they have to release.

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Agreed. For SB I said that we were going to get a caster long before RDM was even announced, purely because we only had 2 INT based classes at the time. I believe the next two jobs will be Healer and Caster. Ranged DPS just got one so I seriously doubt they would do another Ranged DPS. Or they could do 3 jobs next expansion and released Caster, Healer, Ranged DPS, but that would be pretty taxing after what occurred with the last time they implemented 3 jobs at the same time.

I wouldn't mind any new job (hoping for a healer next, possibly Geomancer, maybe Chemist) but my pipe dreams include introducing new roles to existing jobs as, essentially, new jobs (with completely different skills, possibly retaining some of them for flavour and these could work differently depending on the role). I think someone said the same thing above but I would think that they would level separately if they were to be introduced (would be nice if not though). This is so that there could be, say, new job quest NPCs (or it could be the same trainers, just a different story line altogether) for lore reasons since some job story lines like the healer cement the whole healing aspect.

If they were to introduce this, I think it'd be really great (and would give me hope for functional BLU and healing DNC xD). I also think this would get rid of the disappointment with many expecting future jobs to have certain roles (*cough* DNC and RDM to a certain extent?). You never know, they might run out of new jobs to think of in the future, especially previous Final Fantasy jobs.

Keyblader (DPS)
Uses classic moves from KH games to deal critical damage.

This would be the next gunbreaker hype class, and a perfect platform to bring something popular from the KH franchise that can definitely pull in some subs.

Also when you think about it, it become more and more taxing to add new job; you have to balance them with every existing job and make adjustement to every content for every existing jobs. Honnestly, I would not mind them starting to release only one new job for the next few extension and put more ressources on the late game content.

I would like to see Beastmaster created as a true pet job to replace Summoner because it feels like the devs want Summoner to be something else now. Having Beastmaster take on much of what Summoner was before 5.0 would satisfy people who liked that gameplay and also allow the Summoner job to flourish into something that isn't bogged down by pet mechanics that prevent it from "feeling like a Summoner." I'd even go so far as to make Beastmaster a hybrid caster like Red Mage with some magic abilities unique to FFXIV lore or casted commands for the pets, along with melee combos using a whip that flow with whichever pet phase they are in. Something unique like that so it can't be called "Old Summoner" and fills in a role that is lacking. Physical range could probably work too.

But obviously a 6.0 Healer please so we don't lose all of our healer mains T-T