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08-28-2018, 01:49 AM
LyraKuroneko

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

But I was already told in the thread you didn't need a sub, just a character. I thought the 3 month reward was the lower sub cost, which would be rude to make for everyone.

And looking at it as a scar doesn't change my mind on it. My alt could still look amazing with it. Plus you all got to play with it for 5 years, why can't I get a turn?

Because as said by numerous persons, your character weren't teleported into the current version. Even Legacy player can't make another character like this. Because, spoiler, they haven't teleported either.
08-28-2018, 01:50 AM
InkstainedGwyn

This isn't even a good troll thread, come on, people.
08-28-2018, 02:06 AM
Kyousha

The reason why it is impossible to get the legacy tattoo has been answered by several people. If you even understand our explanations, any further persistence simply makes you appear arrogant and quite rude.

Square Enix has given us many different customization options for our characters. Accept what you are given, or try to look for a different game that satisfies your hunger.

This thread has been exhausted countless times in the past, as well as now. Please move on... You should find something more important to occupy your time. D:
08-28-2018, 02:09 AM
Mahrze

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

The reason why it is impossible to get the legacy tattoo has been answered by several people. If you even understand our explanations, any further persistence simply makes you appear arrogant and quite rude.

Square Enix has given us many different customization options for our characters. Accept what you are given, or try to look for a different game that satisfies your hunger.

This thread has been exhausted countless times in the past, as well as now. Please move on... You should find something more important to occupy your time. D:

But it seems this is something important to them. If you disagree and have voiced your opinion and they still disagree with you: Why not occupy your own time in something else instead of trying to discourage them from their request? Just a thought.
08-28-2018, 02:20 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

Square Enix has given us many different customization options for our characters. Accept what you are given, or try to look for a different game that satisfies your hunger.

We only get a few options outside of face paints and hairstyles. Is it bad to ask for more customization? That's what people want.
08-28-2018, 02:30 AM
Kyousha

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

But it seems this is something important to them. If you disagree and have voiced your opinion and they still disagree with you: Why not occupy your own time in something else instead of trying to discourage them from their request? Just a thought.

Thank you, logic. I actually already planned to do just that. ;) I simply thought I would jump in and help explain to the OP about the legacy situation, but it's apparent that it's fruitless for either side to argue.
08-28-2018, 02:34 AM
LyraKuroneko

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

We only get a few options outside of face paints and hairstyles. Is it bad to ask for more customization? That's what people want.

You were asking for the legacy tatoo, not for more customization.
08-28-2018, 02:36 AM
Kyousha

You know, I agree that there haven't been many additions to tattoo options. They should make more! (But not the legacy tattoo... which, by the way, we can't even customize)
08-28-2018, 02:37 AM
Zsolen

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Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko

You were asking for the legacy tatoo, not for more customization.

Technically, he was asking for both.
08-28-2018, 02:39 AM
Paladinleeds

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

We only get a few options outside of face paints and hairstyles. Is it bad to ask for more customization? That's what people want.

More customisation options for sure, such as tattoo options. Legacy tattoo specifically though, HELL NO. And I'm not even a legacy player. If they make that available, I might just quit because it's just a major kick in the teeth to everyone who supported the original game. Even the white raven earrings are rubbing me the wrong way.
08-28-2018, 02:48 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

More customisation options for sure, such as tattoo options. Legacy tattoo specifically though, HELL NO. And I'm not even a legacy player. If they make that available, I might just quit because it's just a major kick in the teeth to everyone who supported the original game. Even the white raven earrings are rubbing me the wrong way.

But all the legacy tattoo requirement was, was you needed to have a character. Not even a sub. I even looked up and people were saying that they got it without paying for more than the game. They don't get access to the legacy discount.

So even people that bought the game, hated it, and quit for the whole time got the tattoo. They deserve it, but I can't have one?

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

Yes, because they will have subbed and bought the game to make the character in the first place. Even if they hated it, by paying and subbing even for a bit, they were supporting the original game. Something you and I didn't do. It's that simple.

Sorry, gonna put it up here because I dunno how close to 10 post limit I'm at.

But did the game have a free trial? If yes, then I could'a gotten it then without paying a cent. And if no, just put it on mog station for the amount the game was then. XD Easy Peasy.
08-28-2018, 02:49 AM
Paladinleeds

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

But all the legacy tattoo requirement was, was you needed to have a character. Not even a sub. I even looked up and people were saying that they got it without paying for more than the game. They don't get access to the legacy discount.

So even people that bought the game, hated it, and quit for the whole time got the tattoo. They deserve it, but I can't have one?

Yes, because they will have subbed and bought the game to make the character in the first place. Even if they hated it, by paying and subbing even for a bit, they were supporting the original game. Something you and I didn't do. It's that simple.

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Sorry, gonna put it up here because I dunno how close to 10 post limit I'm at.

But did the game have a free trial? If yes, then I could'a gotten it then without paying a cent. And if no, just put it on mog station for the amount the game was then. XD Easy Peasy.

Or... we can let the legacy players keep it. From what I understand, it didn't have a free trial. As for putting it on the mog station for the amount the game was then... no. Because again that devalues those who actually paid for the game back then. Sorry, but I will NOT agree to it being made available under ANY circumstances. And if they do so, I will legitimately consider up and quitting. In my eyes, they're already spitting on the legacy players (of which I shall repeat, I am not one) by making the white raven earrings available. I've already said I'm up for adding tattoos as customisation options. Just ANYTHING except the legacy tattoo. My position will not change on this no matter what you say.
08-28-2018, 03:54 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by LadyCrim

Let's clear this up. I am a Legacy player and would be seriously disappointed if SE ever gave the tattoo to none Legacy players. Without us, there would be no game, we did have to pay and sub for a period which from memory was 3 months out of the last six before the end of 1.0 (could be slightly off) as I paid for the duration that they charged us, I'm not 100% sure and I have friends who played in 1.0 and unsubbed before the end and did not get Legacy account status. If you didn't pay for the qualifying period you didn't get legacy status.

But the Tattoo was never tied to a subscription. You only needed a character. Never needed a sub. The reduced sub cost was from paying for 90 days.

I did join in Late ARR, but I haven't dropped my sub since I came here. Are you saying the guy who bought the game, didn't like it, and quit and never did anything else supported the game more than I have? Sure it wasn't dying when I came in, but this other person didn't exactly support it either, but because they made a character then they'd get the tattoo while I'm left in the dust.

Just seems unfair to me. Looking it up, someone said they played to level 20 and paid for 1 month. This was their stuff.

-----
- I have no 9.99 montly fee
- I have no Legacy Titles
- I have no Legacy Mount

+ I do have Legacy Tattoo
+ I do have Onion Helm
+ I did get free Fantasia
+ I did keep my original gear from 1.0 apparently when ARR launched
-----

So for this person's case, they didn't pay 90 days, because they don't even get the cheap sub. But they still got the tattoo. And other things too.
08-28-2018, 04:14 AM
rainichan

Because I dropped $$$ for the collector's edition.

Because I actually paid for the game because I wanted to play it.

That's why we have it and non-1.0 players don't.

You don't look at someone's Medal of Honour and say "but I want one too!" if you didn't earn it by answering the call to arms. The difference between the tat and the earrings is one was a thank you for at leasy buying the game and trying it along with the legacy bird and sub discount if you subbed during their actual sub time (the rest was a very extended free 30 days after starting an account) and the earrings were just a quest reward if you somehow got lucky to even do and finish a fight. *Items* are things that shouldn't be locked behind the "exclusive" banner (I was miffed over the moogle suit for 10 minutes before I got over it because it doesn't effin' matter, let people get stuff like that) forever. But things like the tat, that isn't an item but something actually special?

No.

There are a few gear sets that give the illusion of a tattoo. Use those if you want one so bad.
08-28-2018, 04:19 AM
Mahrze

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Originally Posted by rainichan

You don't look at someone's Medal of Honour and say "but I want one too!"

So, if I ask for the item as a replica? Since that was the "acceptable" solution for the earrings then what?

I want a "replica 1.0 legacy tattoo" option in the character creator, regardless of how or when I make it. It's a 'replica' therefor not as 'important' as a 'genuine'. (silly to use the terms on digital stuff but w/e) So fair game, right?
08-28-2018, 04:22 AM
Fawkes

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

So, if I ask for the item as a replica? Since that was the "acceptable" solution for the earrings then what?

I want a "replica 1.0 legacy tattoo" option in the character creator, regardless of how or when I make it. It's a 'replica' therefor not as 'important' as a 'genuine'. (silly to use the terms on digital stuff but w/e) So fair game, right?

Unlike an item there's no way for someone to examine you and see if you have the real thing or the replica, so no it's not the same.
08-28-2018, 04:25 AM
Mahrze

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Unlike an item there's no way for someone to examine you and see if you have the real thing or the replica, so no it's not the same.

And why would you have to examine me? if they release it as such in the charcreator then its simply a "glamour" option. Your "not the same" still holds no weight.
08-28-2018, 04:29 AM
Elkanah

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Now, Spirits Within

How dare you bring up that filth! D:<
08-28-2018, 04:51 AM
Coombah

Nope, the forums have become just as bad as the events lately.
08-28-2018, 04:54 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by LadyCrim

The tattoo is actually only given to those who have Legacy accounts and do pay the lower sub, have the chocobo etc. Just because they said they paid for a month doesn't mean they did. I quote the following from my old email - Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 will become eligible for Legacy benefits

They specifically said they don't get the cheaper sub, but still got the tattoo.

So are you saying Square then didn't give him a cheaper sub when he should have? That's concerning.
08-28-2018, 04:58 AM
Zsolen

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Originally Posted by LadyCrim

The tattoo is actually only given to those who have Legacy accounts and do pay the lower sub, have the chocobo etc. Just because they said they paid for a month doesn't mean they did. I quote the following from my old email - Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 will become eligible for Legacy benefits

I'm pretty sure the tattoo is separate from the paid legacy awards, but there is conflicting information on this.
08-28-2018, 06:16 AM
Stormfur

I'd like to see other tattoos made available for other parts of the body.

And for the next Rising, can we have another 12th floor? That one was the best so far out of all of them.
08-28-2018, 06:17 AM
Ashiee

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Originally Posted by LadyCrim

The tattoo is actually only given to those who have Legacy accounts and do pay the lower sub, have the chocobo etc. Just because they said they paid for a month doesn't mean they did. I quote the following from my old email - Users with service accounts that paid for at least 90 cumulative days of subscription for the original version of FFXIV between January 6, 2012 and suspension of 1.0's billing services on September 29, 2012 will become eligible for Legacy benefits

Untrue, the Tattoo is given to any character made in 1.X. It has nothing to do with the Legacy campaign itself. I have multiple friends who never achieved Legacy status with their accounts who have that tattoo.

Fun fact: Retainers created in 1.X and weren't changed coming in also have the Tattoo.
08-28-2018, 06:20 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Ashiee

Untrue, the Tattoo is given to any character made in 1.X. It has nothing to do with the Legacy campaign itself. I have multiple friends who never achieved Legacy status with their accounts who have that tattoo.

Fun fact: Retainers created in 1.X and weren't changed coming in also have the Tattoo.

When the retainer can have the tattoo, but I can't. D:
08-28-2018, 06:21 AM
Ashiee

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

When the retainer can have the tattoo, but I can't. D:

Did you make your character in 1.X? I mean it really is a symbolic thing more then anything.
08-28-2018, 07:37 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Ashiee

Did you make your character in 1.X? I mean it really is a symbolic thing more then anything.

I didn't even know the game was a thing in 1.X. I only had figured out during the later part of ARR when I was moving away from WoW for a while.

I personally didn't play much FF is why. So I never really looked for it. Nor did any of my friends even touch 14, so they never told me.
08-28-2018, 08:01 AM
Wyvernheart

Just add a tattoo shop npc in the Enclave and be done with it.
08-28-2018, 08:10 AM
TheGrimace

When can I get a JUICY tattoo on my butt? SE I think this deserves immediate attention
08-28-2018, 08:35 AM
Final-Fantasy

The Tattoo was given automatically to any and all 1.0 characters, it only appears if you import your 1.0 character/s to 2.0, and may be hidden by default, you can check by typing "/legacymark on".

It will not appear if you played 1.0 and started fresh with a new character in 2.0 onward, it might be called Legacy Tattoo officially but it isn't linked in anyway to Legacy benefits, as long as the character was made in 1.0 it will have it, doesn't need to be leveled or anything cause I have a few (that have the tattoo as well) from 1.0 at level 1 that I only logged in once or twice just playing around with the character creator, back then we didn't have any way to edit our characters, no fantasia!

So its just a visual sign showing your character was in 1.0 :P
08-28-2018, 10:36 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by TheGrimace

When can I get a JUICY tattoo on my butt? SE I think this deserves immediate attention

No arguments with this either.
08-28-2018, 10:42 AM
hynaku

Let us travel to world of darkness or let us go back in time to witness the whole event and help save ones.
08-28-2018, 11:09 AM
Ramesses

An idea... we spring Yoshi from confinement.

Back in 1.0, there was a really fun yet short quest in which the Wandering Mistrel was taken into custody (by some unscrupulous noble or something... I forget the details) and we had to go rescue him.

Fun times. See screenshots below.

https://i.imgur.com/cfegI5y.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ReNbU9B.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/L50euv8.jpg
08-28-2018, 11:11 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

An idea... we spring Yoshi from confinement.

Back in 1.0, there was a really fun yet short quest in which the Wandering Mistrel was taken into custody (by some unscrupulous noble or something... I forget the details) and we had to go rescue him.

I thought we already had that. We got in there too and had to play a minigame to get out.
08-28-2018, 11:41 AM
Emstidor

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Originally Posted by ern815

What i actually missed out from 1.0 was the titles earned during that time. Ah... if only I realized early and get that 'Notorious Monster Hunter' Title..

Diadem added a new achievement that rewards the very similar “Notorious Monster Slayer” title, if that helps.
08-28-2018, 12:23 PM
Ramesses

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

I thought we already had that. We got in there too and had to play a minigame to get out.

No.

Definitely not the same.
08-28-2018, 03:29 PM
rainichan

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

So, if I ask for the item as a replica? Since that was the "acceptable" solution for the earrings then what?

I want a "replica 1.0 legacy tattoo" option in the character creator, regardless of how or when I make it. It's a 'replica' therefor not as 'important' as a 'genuine'. (silly to use the terms on digital stuff but w/e) So fair game, right?

In the same thread with people getting up in arms, there were people STILL unhappy with that solution. So that still wouldn't make anyone happy. In fact, people were more upset over the possibility of replicas!

Also, replica MOHs are illegal in the US, so there's that.
08-29-2018, 12:40 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

No.

Definitely not the same.

Oh. I just assumed it was similar in some way because the location and situation was used. Though I guess it makes sense the method of completion wasn't a mini game to spell words.

My bad.
08-29-2018, 01:01 AM
Mahrze

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Originally Posted by rainichan

In the same thread with people getting up in arms, there were people STILL unhappy with that solution. So that still wouldn't make anyone happy. In fact, people were more upset over the possibility of replicas!

Also, replica MOHs are illegal in the US, so there's that.

So, damned if they do and damned if they don't. SE's life story alright.

Also, lol at zero relevance comment on a global scale. There's a thought.
08-29-2018, 08:36 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by rainichan

Also, replica MOHs are illegal in the US, so there's that.

But this isn't the US. NA servers aren't even strictly US. Also, forgive me, what's a MOH? I just get something religion based looking that up.
08-29-2018, 06:21 PM
LyraKuroneko

And we do have replica gear. For Bahamut content.

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