did you play on old ps4 before?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
if so you should do ps4 transfer to Ps4 pro, only 2h all my savedata & games install transfer to Ps4 pro no need to download anything
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016...s4-to-ps4-pro/
PS4 PRO and FFXIV Graphics and Framerate Patch
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11-10-2016, 07:45 PMAnera
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11-10-2016, 08:20 PMNoutaja
What does 4k gaming have to do with a ps4(pro)? LOL. Please dont mention such things together. It can prolly play a certain file format of 4k video (the least bitrate and quality) and thats all and barely :D if not your going with crappier graphics than the first 3d games, or it just has to be a 2d sidescroller from the 90s at 4k. PS4 will never have anything to do with 4k other than a crap 4k video at best. Please dont fall for the 4k title.
Other than that its best console avaiable if you play on a console better get whats the best. Atleast. :) -
11-10-2016, 08:36 PMSpawnieTraded in my old ps4 for the pro so could only back up my save data :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Anera
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11-10-2016, 10:59 PMFelisYou can also back up the whole HDD to a extern HDD and then copy it back to the new console, I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
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11-11-2016, 12:23 AMMature
Can anyone tell how much improved FFXIV looks like on Pro please. For Pro owners out there
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11-11-2016, 12:35 AMAkira_TenshiDo you have any idea how stupid and childish you sound? The PS4 pro has native 4K games as well as upscaled games that are very close to native but I can see it's a waste of time even saying that to you. You clearly don't own one so best stop making yourself look silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noutaja
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11-11-2016, 12:37 AMAkira_TenshiIt's exactly the same pro doesn't even know it's a pro when running unpatched PS4 games. It runs at normal PS4 specs. Square need to patch the game to use pro features.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mature
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11-11-2016, 12:57 AMMature
Thanks no point getting it right now then. I'll wait until is patch... If ever
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11-11-2016, 01:20 AMFaiyezIsn't 4K the same as 2160p? Supported Pro games are rendering at 1800p, which is close enough. At that point it just becomes a very difficult game of spot the differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noutaja
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11-11-2016, 03:17 AMKosmos992kNo, it's perfectly capable of 4K output. The question is whether it can render games at 4K with the kinds of physics, textures and effects that people are accustomed to seeing in fullHD. The answer to that is a qualified Yes. Qualified because it depends on both the framerate required, and the amount of effects/physics/etc... A basic game could render at 4K in 60 frames, an more complex game would perhaps hit 30 frames. But a fairly typical game rendering at 4K would not fare well, it will need to render at a lower resolution such as the checkerboard 1440p resolution and then scale from there. In truth, most people will not notice any difference at that resolution unless the game is paused for a side by side frame comparison with a full 4K version. In motion it's really not very easy to see the difference unless you specifically know what to look for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noutaja
One thing that it does have an issue with is that Sony chose - quite insanely - to gimp the system, requiring that any game that wants to make use of the extra GPU resource must be patched to do so. Unlike a PC where doubling the GPU resource results in instant frame rate benefits, the way that the extra GPU resource is handled on the PS4 requires that games specifically be compiled to enable the additional resource in order to gain any benefit.
Before PS4Pro was released, the information I had seen, and common sense said that there was no way Sony would do this. I argued with several people here (in another thread), RobbieH included, about that very topic. Now that they units have shipped and it's clear that Sony did choose an insane approach (IMHO), I have to say that RobbieH was right on that point, and I apologize for all the back and forth about it. -
11-11-2016, 06:13 AMSpawnieA few games had pro patches on day of release i know skyrim remake had 1.. give it some time more than likely more games will later onQuote:
Originally Posted by Mature
I traded my ps4 in for pro cause it had some issues -
11-11-2016, 06:15 AMSpawnieQuote:
Originally Posted by Felis
Wish i knew that earlier xD o wells patching is done nows :p -
11-11-2016, 11:52 AMAnerayeah is the same as PS4 SE need to patch itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mature
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11-11-2016, 11:55 AMJim_Berry
Sure, and then people want PS4 and PS4 Slim killed off like they wanted PS3 when PS4 released.
I retired FFXI in Nov 2015 when because I didn't want to buy a PC to continue to play on (was playing on PS2 then Xbox 360). PS3 users are already being forced to upgrade to PS4, and then I guess PS4 would have to upgrade to Pro? -
11-11-2016, 09:29 PMRockGodOne
I just wanted to add that since using ffxiv on my PS4 pro, my 4K tv without HDR looks much better. The colors are much more vibrant. Idk why but it didn't look like that with my normal PS4
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11-11-2016, 10:11 PMGreydorExcept PS4, though not ideal IMO, offers reasonable performance in-game. The PS4 Pro could expand on that a little (or more). And then no comparison to PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
PS3 is abysmal, and unbelievably, barely arguably, unplayable (IMO). -
11-11-2016, 11:01 PMFaiyezPS4 to the Pro is not a gen leap. Maybe do the research - Pro is using the same hardware components. Also: For all we know, FFXIV will never support the PS4 Pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_Berry
Also, who cares if or when the PS4 loses support? It's not going to happen any time soon. Yeah, I'm really sorry you couldn't take your PS2 to the grave, but let's be real. Dropping PS3 got the loudest cheers at fanfest. Should give you a good idea of how many people care about legacy support after a certain point. -
11-12-2016, 01:48 AMKosmos992kNot quite. It's not a generational leap, but there is a significant hardware upgrade, including an extra half Gig of regular DRAM to free up an additional half gig of GDDR5 for games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faiyez
Not sure why you would conclude that SE would not patch in the PS4Pro, they don't have to do very much to allow the existing game to make used of the Pro's extra GPU to increase the framerate. Anything else would take some effort, but I would guess that might come between now and the Expansion, I lean towards the expansion for full PS4Pro support.
PS4 and PS4Pro and losing PS4 support. That can't actually happen. Sony requires that all games licensed for PS4Pro must be able to operate to a certain minimum standard of quality on a regular PS4. This is because the base PS4 is still the platform. The PS4Pro is simply a 4K enhanced version of that.Quote:
Also, who cares if or when the PS4 loses support? It's not going to happen any time soon.
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11-16-2016, 06:45 AMIndigoAK
The Pro knows when it's running non-Pro software. As a developer with access to the PS4 devkit, there is absolutely a software difference between the two.
When running unpatched software, the PS4 Pro disables the additional compute units and underclocks its APU (which effectively underclocks the memory as well) to match the specs of the original PS4. This is why games must be patched to make use of the Pro's hardware improvements. -
11-16-2016, 07:59 AMFinalWolf
Lasted interview confirmed they are working on 4k resolution.
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11-25-2016, 05:08 AMVince_BlackAny source for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by FinalWolf
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11-25-2016, 05:20 AMFinalWolfhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ida_after_nas/Quote:
Originally Posted by Vince_Black
"Native Resolution 4K will be given priority than Direct X 12 support." -
12-18-2016, 12:10 AMMadepossible
Please give us the ps4 Pro patch update! Ps4 pro users won't benefit much from FFXIV until we get a proper ps4 pro patch that utilizes the full potential of the hardware. Right now we are only using half of its power and it would be nice if developers took the ps4 pro patch into consideration.
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01-04-2017, 04:17 AMSharaRedstoneThis! Any indication that the pro hardware unlock will be in patch 3.5?Quote:
Originally Posted by Madepossible
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02-04-2017, 05:20 AMKosmos992k
Well, even if SE doesn't support PS4 Pro directly, it looks like Sony might take care of it anyway;
http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/3/1449...-firmware-4-50
Not the most ideal solution, but certainly useful if SE waits until 4.X to support the Pro. -
02-17-2017, 10:23 PMSharaRedstoneThat's awesome news! That'll do more than fine until 4k/HDR in Stormblood ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kosmos992k
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04-13-2017, 03:05 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
honestly... i wouldn't waste money on the PlayStation 4 Pro, i am fairly certain the "pro" stands for prototype. LOL no, seriously... Sony is going to have to make a response of some kind to Microsoft's new way of wanting to do things. compared to how Microsoft would like to have it, the PS4 Pro is a half-assed cash grab. it doesn't even have native 4K support! (for disc-based game it will only up-scale, which defeats having improved hardware. digital games will have native 4K support, though. i forget, but think they added full 4K support for video... but again, only digital/streamed or MP4 formats will be 4K. your discs are useless.)
the PS4 Pro is a JOKE! look up some youtube videos comparing games that have been patched for better graphics and framerates... even after the patch, the xbone S still plays better! the difference in graphics is almost unnoticeable, but the xbone S plays much smoother. it is seriously pathetic. the problem? Sony places too much emphasize on quality. always have... it is funny, though, because they stopped producing quality merchandise years ago.
and this boost mode? i own the original model from when PS4 first launched. comparing the Pro in boost mode to the original side-by-side... there is literally NO difference when playing this game.
also the PS4 Pro is supposed to have a faster operating interface for your storage. so i disable boost mode and compare load speeds with two of the same SSD's... again, ZERO difference. the PS4 Pro seems to do absolutely nothing. (it doesn't even run quieter) don't waste money on it. i certainly regret it.
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04-13-2017, 09:33 PMMaero
You seriously have no clue what you are talking about.... ^
For one, FFXIV is NOT optimized yet for the Pro, boost mode is negligeable sure but for some games it does in fact work
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04-14-2017, 03:24 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRYi know FFXIV is not currently optimized for the PS4 Pro. however, the boost mode does absolutely nothing for the game. i feel no difference in places like Idyllshire, no FPS boost what-so-ever. even games like Just Cause 3 have no noticeable improvement, despite what others claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maero
regardless of any of that, it doesn't explain Sony's lie about the operating speed for the SATA interface. i have tested several digital games, games that i KNOW receive a benefit from using an SSD as opposed to the standard/stock HDD. and just to be sure, i have used different SSD's as well. older or newer interface controllers haven't made any difference.
it is always possible that those games were operating at their max even with the old SATA 2 speeds. but i am pretty certain that FFXIV should benefit from the increased speeds, regardless of patching.
the original xbox blew the PS2 out of the water. and while the 360 had one terrible launch and the specs are lower than the PS3... it still played games better. you could even mod games on it. we are at the PS4 now, and even with the upgraded hardware and games being patched... the xbone is STILL playing games better. Sony is obviously doing something wrong.
either way, SE is for sure working on that patch. so we will see a good difference here for long. ^_^ -
04-14-2017, 03:28 AMKosmos992kInterface speed and SSD performance are not going to change because of a clock bump on the PS$ APU. Not sure why you think that they would. Ignorance is one thing, being belligerent about it is quite another.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
Boost mode is a 10% upclock vs regular PS4. It doesn't magically unlock a speed doubler, it doesn't grant access to the other half of the GPU. The reality is that for games that are bottlenecked, a 10% overclock could be the grease that let's it work, while for others is's just a 10% clock bump and they're frame rate locked in any case. -
04-14-2017, 03:32 AMADVSS
so how does ff14 run on the xbone compared to the ps4 pro?
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04-14-2017, 03:33 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRYlike, i totally understand what you are saying. but the specs clearly state a SATA 3 operating interface. even if they don't have any other improvements, just that alone should allow for faster loads times. at least, in most games and most certainly FFXIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosmos992k