Post Your Tanking Horror Stories!

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Originally Posted by AlexiIvaniskavich

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I'm totally with you on this. I am accustomed to running with an FC healer who can't seem to let me die no matter how dumb my pulls get, so I always assumed that maybe, just maybe, I was overdoing the pulls in the Vault a little ... and then I healed it for myself.

The first time I healed the Vault I was still wearing a lot of Ironworks gear. I barely met the ilvl to get in, and I really did not see what all the fuss was about. Don't get me wrong, I am not an experienced healer either. Far from it. The hallway pull was definitely taxing on my Mp bar, but I still pulled it off. No one died, despite the fact that the tank was most certainly not optimizing their mitigation skills. Shortly after that run, I actually had to paper tank my way through that same hallway (the tank Dc'd). Me, and the two Dps, went all the way from the first boss room to the second boss room without a tank. Let me tell you, that was a horror story all on it's own, and I posted it in the healer forums, but still no one died. If a piss poor healer like me can do it, I'm really not sure why so many of them complain about that particular dungeon.

I can understand when you get a tank who is pants-on-head stupid and refuses to use any mitigation skills, because that's just a tremendous waste of your mp, but if the Tank is using adequate Defensive CD's, then it really should not be a problem.

Feature request: let us glamour pants onto head slot

The Sunken Temple of Quarn:

Dps not knowing their ABC's and 123's + Bees = OH GEEZ!

That moment in thordan ex where the astro thats letting u die to auto attacks manages to somehow put out enough overheal during thordans lb to rip hate off u so well that you can't even get it back with a voke da powerslash.

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Originally Posted by Kaeoni

The Sunken Temple of Quarn:

Dps not knowing their ABC's and 123's + Bees = OH GEEZ!

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90% of the time my party wipes to Doom on the first boss, even after explaining it

It's basically tradition now

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Originally Posted by SoloNightlock

That moment in thordan ex where the astro thats letting u die to auto attacks manages to somehow put out enough overheal during thordans lb to rip hate off u so well that you can't even get it back with a voke da powerslash.

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Are you me? ARE WE THE SAME PERSON?

Worst Tanking Horror story;
Patch 3.2

This little story just happened no more than about an hour ago. Stone Vigil Hard Mode, PUG from a Duty Roulette. Wanted to get it done and over with pretty quickly before the night was over as I'd just returned home from a hang night with a couple friends. Rather sleepy after all the fun, but I wanted to log in and get some stuff done; too bad I ended up bringing a (comparatively) short fuse with me into this Roulette.

For a bit of context, I'm an ilvl178 WAR, my teammates are a level 60 BLM, a level 50 NIN, and a level 60 WHM. The WHM and BLM both prolly had their ilvls somewhere between 160-180, as well, as I didn't see a lick of i200 gear on them. Nonetheless, this seems like it'd make a party far, far, FAR above what would be needed to pass this content (oh, if only the gear had been the problem).

So the dungeon starts, the BLM says he's never been through here before. The WHM and I assure them it's simple stuff, as we both had experience here. The NIN didn't say anything at this time, stayed quiet as we started carving our way through the first trash mobs. We get to the boss room and I start trying to explain the mechanics to the BLM, only for our WHM to go BALLS DEEP into the YOLO zone and aggro the boss as I'm mid-typing.

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Scrap the rest and jump in after him, pulling aggro back and starting to direct Gorynich away from the rest and into his cozy little corner to the Southwest. Next thing to happen? Adds. Those adorable little bastards you just wanna hug until their eyeballs pop out. As per formula, they target the healer, and not long after this, Gorynich goes into his Dr. Swinge-love mode. Now, I won't lie. I fucked up. I completely forgot that the adds detonate into AoEs when they die, and that, if they die within range of Gorynich, they buff his scaly hide. But I do have a good reason for the resulting trouble of a buffed up, already roided-out, dragon; and that may or may not be the fact that I had a Healer who was staying nearly within grabbing distance of my butt (and not just the tail, either). So, fearing for the well-being of my little @$$ gremlin, I killed as many adds as I could while holding aggro on Gorynich.

We came out on top on our first try, though. Simple fight, easy stuff, a couple Swinges to the face, but that wasn't the cherry on this little cake (but it did happen to be the frosting). Next up, as you know, was Cuca Fera. The thought of getting behind a cannon again would be fun. Oh yes, firing cannon balls at a 30-foot tall prickly dragon would be a perfect way to make this run better. We get to the barrier leading out to the boss arena, where I stopped to explain the mechanics to our BLM (no, the WHM didn't run out like a fool this time, but he did get behind the Southwest cannon pretty immediately). To sum up my little lesson to the guy, it was basically "get to a cannon", "watch your buddies on your left and right", and "use stun ONLY on AoE".

Fight begins, BLM is in the Southeast, I'm on the Northwest, aaand the NIN starts running around like his head's chopped off. No cannon. Knives at the ready. The boss lands 2 feet behind the guy and knights start swarming it, to which the three of us are planting our Iron Kisses WITH ALMIGHTY AFFECTION. So explosions are going off all around the NIN, he's got a boss right next to him, and he doesn't seem to know what to do. 1 minute, 30 seconds into the fight, "what do i do".

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Emphasis on the barbecue, as the adds begin showing up not long after. NIN is running around doing his thing, not really surviving so much as he's flailing about like a wacky waving inflatable tube man. With knives. Half the damage he starts taking, I'm half hoping he's doing to himself at this point. The WHM is on my right, getting swarmed by adds while I'm trying to save the NIN on my left and our BLM was not doing jack to help the WHM. Things are a clusterfudgesicle at this point, but hey, dragons win. GG.

We respawn and go over the strategy once more for our NIN, who actually responds this time, and go back to the boss room. He mounts the Northeast cannon while everyone else takes the same spots we were in last time. Time for round 2, gentlemen! So the barrage begins, and we're firing like maniacs. I'm watching the WHM on my right and NIN to my left as I aim my shots and keep them add-clean. Wait, why are there adds coming at me? Why am I getting attacked? Okay, sure, I'll be fine. That WHM knows what he's doing even if we have a brainless NIN. WHY AM I GETTING HIT STILL?!

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Welp, I hop off my machine and start defending myself like a right gentleman should; WITH AN AXE. Except this gentleman's health is dropping. Fast. Where's my suppo-WHY IS THE HEALER GETTING OVERRUN?! BLM do something-who am I kidding? We wiped for that, too. Spawn time, again. We picked ourselves up, got back to the boss room. Set numbers over our heads to distinguish the order in which we'll stun shot the boss. Reminded them to check their left and right, help their allies. Get back to positions, same ones. And this time, we work at it, things start going well. BLM is watching the WHM on his left, I'm keeping track of the NIN to my left. We stun a couple times, even without me getting anyone to cover me from adds. It gets to the next guy's turn, and we eat the Stomp.

What the hell?! Whose turn is it?! "BLM's turn." WELL WHERE IS HE?! "Dead." Turns out, adds had overtaken him and he didn't get any support from NIN or WHM. Sad part, he was the first to go. I get off my machine because more adds are coming and I can't handle them all. WHM gets off their cannon to come help me out, and I manage to clean up the adds, but NIN dies in the period that I'm off my cannon. Boss is down to 22%, I hop back on my cannon and start kissing the rotten prick with one cannonball after another. Adds are gathering up at my feet again. I still have a good bit of health, but instead of shooting them, WHM gets off his cannon and starts coming to heal me, gaining their aggro. Thinking I could just finish off the boss (now at 13%), I continue my barrage. 7%, WHM is dead and adds are coming back at me from across the room, where he'd died. I get the boss down to 2%, but the adds have swarmed me by now, and I decide it's time to get the hell outta Dodge. I get off the cannon and run up to the boss, watching my numbers drop bit by bit.

Holmgang. 6 sweet seconds in which my health drops to 1 and stays there while I'm going ham on the boss (all of a Heavy Swing and a Skull Sunder). Infuriate > Inner Beast. 1%. Holmgang's out. I'm dead. Sit there for a good minute just pissed. I respawn with the group. Someone suggests we abandon. No movement started. I try to start it. Gets declined.

"You people won't listen. F*ck all of you. You won't help each other, you won't help me."

> Leave party.

Sit here. Make a post. Mild regret.

Stone Vigil:
Zone in and greet everyone, get various "Hello"s back. No Protect, but I've heard that people don't consider it necessary until 50+ content, so I roll with it. Pull the first pack, a drake and 2 little guys so I can get a feel for the group. We're doing decent damage, then I realize my health isn't going back up. I pop a couple CDs thinking maybe my healer is just DPSing and will get back to me soon. Nope...pop Holmgang, Thrill, Second Wind; the Drake drops, the little guys are starting to go down. Things wear off and I splat. I rez at the start and run back in to clean up so the DPS don't suffer my fate.

We wait around for ~2minutes. "Lol, sorry guys, was getting a drink". No worries, it happens, I probably should have done a ready check or something before I pulled. Everyone laughs and we start moving.

Next pull, Established enmity, things are looking good! Splat. "Sorry about that, my timing was a little off". Hey, no biggie, I just wiped my party on my previous dungeon (Dzemael Darkhold first time. We had no problem with any of the bosses, but those damned frogs...), so I'm not too salty about it. We rez and get back into it.

Next pull is going OK, get an extra drake on patrol, pop a couple CD to lower incoming damage...splat. "Oh man, my timing is off right now, I'm so drunk!". Was that what I sacrificed myself for at the beginning of this run, then? This is going to be a joy.

Sorry for the long story...We manage to 1-shot each boss, but I died at least once getting to each one. There were a couple times I tried smaller pulls, but the BLM wasn't having any of that and would round up the entire room for me. Thanks guy.

So yeah, that was (so far) the scariest horror story I have, which doesn't compare too much to a lot of these stories here. :)

Did an Aurum Vale run with 2 BLM me as WAR and i wish to hell i was kidding but a god damn lvl 49 Conjurer....
I ask the dude you got WTM?
His response was to deal with it.....
SO very carefully we work our way through the first room with the conjurer spam healing so hard i though the poor dude was going to have an aneurysm but we make it to the first boss after what seemed like forever.
we go in and the thrice cursed bastard couldn't heal for more then 500 on a crit he ate everyones fruit and then died after running head first into a swing
With the boss at 40% hp the 2 BLM go hero mode and rotate healing between the 2 of them while i just lost it and started DPS for all my worth we killed the boss
then after all this shit the dude had the balls to bitch at me for pulling the boss onto him....
so i vote kicked his ass in an instant.
i aint going to deal with it

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Stone Vigil:

Next pull is goiNext pull, Established enmity, things are looking good! Splat. "Sorry about that, my timing was a little off". Hey, no biggie, I just wiped my party on my previous dungeon (Dzemael Darkhold first time. We had no problem with any of the bosses, but those damned frogs...), so I'm not too salty about it. We rez and get back into it.
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Those damn frogs! i was running DD as WHM lastnight everything was going great......till those frogs ive got a 60 War so i wasn't too upset when they linked and we went down faster than maclamore at a goodwill.......but hey it happens.

I only have one horror story really for War and it was a WHM in fractal that healed the entire dungeon in clerics stance......talk about cure bombing and poppin more cool downs than Ke$ha pops pills.....

Thordan Story Mode. I get a PLD tank (I was on WAR to help a fiend).
All hail, Deliverance.
No one pulls.
My friend asks me to MT. I ask why. In the meantime someone pulls.
The PLD can't hold aggro.
I sigh, Provoke, Defiance for 30% of Thordan's HP, then get enough lead to Deliverance, no biggie.
Except I look at the PLD after the kill and he had lvl 57 gear and i200 accessories.
Honestly, there should be a gear check on lvl 60 stuff (I've had a drk with a baldur sword -i160- in Ravana cause everything else he wore was i200...).

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Originally Posted by Nathair

Except I look at the PLD after the kill and he had lvl 57 gear and i200 accessories.
Honestly, there should be a gear check on lvl 60 stuff (I've had a drk with a baldur sword -i160- in Ravana cause everything else he wore was i200...).

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Sometimes, I agree >.< Or at least "lvl59" gearcheck unless it's 3.1+ duties, because face it, sometimes you have bad luck with drops and haven't had time to earn enough to buy tomestone gear. Unfortunately, neither would help with the i160 sword, since that... is level 60 gear ^^;

One thing I'd wish that they'd bring up in the Hall of the Novice tutorials is the importance of tank weapon, and at least mention that it's a tank's greatest asset when it comes to holding an enemy's attention. But I guess that's what they figure the Mentor system will help out with ^^;

Aboretium at the last bee hive part where people sacrifice a tank just to get inside the boss room while us tanks get 2 final stings back to back xD

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Originally Posted by ElodinStoncleft

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Finding another healer is a perfectly valid way of dealing with it.

Alright, so I did my 50 roll in the morning. Got Wanderers HM. Had a Whm, Blm, and drg ... and I wanted to murder the lot of them. The main problem was the healer. For some bizarre reason, they seemed to be having trouble keeping up with the group (physically) and was acting like a general asshat.

The first signs of trouble are in the second pull. I get everything up to the locked gate, turned around, and the healer is missing. I don't see how this can be, because they were literally right next to me during the first pull (well within range of every single AoE). Yet, somewhere between the first locked gate and the second one, the healer just up and disappeared on us. It was weird, but I managed to pop a Stone Skin to buy the healer time to catch up. He/She does some healing. I survive. We move on.

We get to the first boss. Everyone on the team is on my butt, so I pull. I position the boss, and notice my hp start to drop. Damage is light, so it's not a big deal. I just assume the healer is dps'ing ... only the spears aren't dying, because the dps is ignoring them. Frustrating, but with my additional Dps we manage to clear them out. I check my Hp bar ... and it is at 25%. I'm not seeing any stones being thrown around, so I find this weird. I pop a sentinel and convalescence to give the healer a boost, but I don't receive a single heal. I'm now under 1000 hp. I throw up a stone skin to put off the inevitable, and I'm about to ask the healer what in the flying F*ck they are doing, when I notice that they're not even in the arena. The stopped right outside the door, and did not come in with the rest of us.

The Dps are not nearly good enough to kill the boss before I die, so we wipe. I ask the healer why they got locked out. I got no response. For the remainder of the dungeon, the healer is still, periodically, stopping in random spots and leaving the team high and dry. I have to look over my shoulder before every pull just to make sure they're still with the group, because the healer might be off picking their nose or chasing butterfly's or some such. Even when they are with the team, they're not really doing their job. On several occasions the healer would simply run in circles around me (I wish I was F*cking joking here) instead of healing or even dps'ing. To make matters worse, the dps are actively ignoring every single boss mechanic in the dungeon.

40, painful, minutes later, we clear the final boss room, in which both adds were ignored for far too long, and all of the idols were killed by me, not the dps. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

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Originally Posted by Nathair

Honestly, there should be a gear check on lvl 60 stuff (I've had a drk with a baldur sword -i160- in Ravana cause everything else he wore was i200...).

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Correct me if I am wrong, but can you even get a weapon better than possibly i150 until after Thordan anyways without wasting your time doing roulettes for tomes? It'd be kinda silly to force that before the final 3.0 story.

Oh, I suppose by now you can do some hunts to get the i170 former law tome gear, but that is still pretty ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

Correct me if I am wrong, but can you even get a weapon better than possibly i150 until after Thordan anyways without wasting your time doing roulettes for tomes? It'd be kinda silly to force that before the final 3.0 story.

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I'm fairly sure he was talking about Ravana Ex ^^; Which has an ilvl requirement. The tank he was talking about just got past the ilvl requirement by upgrading everything but the weapon. Unfortunately, the weapon... is kinda important to upgrade as a tank ^^; And if he'd spent all that time upgrading all his gear to i200, that means he HAD been running roulettes for tomes for quite a while. (Or it wasn't his main job, and he'd gotten all the tank loot from VA, but there's still the accessories to buy, so...)

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Originally Posted by Noxifer

I'm fairly sure he was talking about Ravana Ex ^^; Which has an ilvl requirement. The tank he was talking about just got past the ilvl requirement by upgrading everything but the weapon. Unfortunately, the weapon... is kinda important to upgrade as a tank ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nathair

I sigh, Provoke, Defiance for 30% of Thordan's HP, then get enough lead to Deliverance, no biggie.
Except I look at the PLD after the kill and he had lvl 57 gear and i200 accessories..

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I was responding to that. If he only meant the Extreme Trials, then I get the comment in a sense, but still...

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

I was responding to that. If he only meant the Extreme Trials, then I get the comment in a sense, but still...

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Ah yeah. For Thordan Story Mode, I was pretty much in 57 gear as well. Oh wait, I had the HQ lvl58 gear I got from the quests. But yeah, to this day, I haven't seen a single tank piece (apart from trinkets) drop in the Library >.< Oh! except for one time. When I was healing. Story of my life right there. It's the same with the Arboretum/PharosHM. Only seen tank gear drop when I heal -- and the tank either Needs on it, or I lose the Greed roll >.<

For that matter, I still don't have the i80 tank head piece from the Labyrinth of the Ancients. I lost count of how many times I ran it, back when people still did due to the weekly, just to get that one piece of the gear set.

Last night, tanking expert roulette. Lost city hard, bard and mch, and whm. Bard and mch killing adds extremely slowly. Not using any cooldowns, hawks eye, internal release, blood for blood, raging strikes, nothing. Saw maybe one or cooldown on first boss. Whm wasn't dpsing at all either, and mobs don't hit hard at all in expert. So just standing around. Asked after first boss if the dps use cooldowns or just save for bosses. Mch said "sometimes" then popped all of them on the next single trash mob. Took like 40 minutes. Painful. I don't parse but i knew i was top dps as tank

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

I was responding to that. If he only meant the Extreme Trials, then I get the comment in a sense, but still...

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Please read it again: the guy had i200 accessories.
As in, esoteric accessories.
And a lvl 57 weapon.
I would've noticed very low HP otherwise, and MT without a question.

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Originally Posted by Februs

40, painful, minutes later, we clear the final boss room, in which both adds were ignored for far too long, and all of the idols were killed by me, not the dps. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

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I'm surprised you didn't kick the healer, it would've been perfectly reasonable since they were not doing their job.
Kudos for endurance :s

So I'm running Amdapor hard, first time but I've seen video to which I tell the group as such. Everyone is cool with it and they say they've been there before so if I do anything off they'll let me know. Cool right? Right. Going through the trash mobs, dps is good, heals are good, this is clearly going to be a piece of cake as long as I don't mess everything up by doing something dumb cause I forgot something from the video. So we get to Achamoth he starts casting that attack that makes shadow clones of everyone that throws down AOEs and immediately I'm like "Oh HEY I REMEMBER THIS I JUST NEED TO TURN AWAY!" So I did.....but the rest of the group didn't so I have 3 AOEs all triangulated on my position. I live, no big deal they probably just messed up cause they didn't see the cast.....except it continues to happen every single time.

It didn't get any better from there.

tl;dr By the grace of gods we cleared Amdapor Hard with an awful group with mechanics that was out to get me.

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So we get to Achamoth he starts casting that attack that makes shadow clones of everyone that throws down AOEs and immediately I'm like "Oh HEY I REMEMBER THIS I JUST NEED TO TURN AWAY!" So I did.....but the rest of the group didn't so I have 3 AOEs all triangulated on my position. I live, no big deal they probably just messed up cause they didn't see the cast.....except it continues to happen every single time.

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Only had one group that did not do that, I have simply gotten used to making sure mine is faced the right way and then drag the boss to a safe spot.

When I have time I like to go through all my DRs, few nights ago I Q for Levelling with DRK (my main) and I get Tam-tara, one DPS had the sprout but everything seems OK.

First pull, the two guys after the entrance and the WHM in his Ironworks Fluid Aura one of those away. No problem really.. If it was once, the assmage used FA on CD and if that wasn't enough he was pulling things. I ask him to stop and as an answer I get "noob tank Eos tanks better than you" I tried to take it lightly and joked on the fact that there were no SCH and asked if he knew how enmity works. More and worse insults. Vote kick for harassment rejected. I tried to endure but I was getting more and more abused even if I wasn't even answering. At some point I raged on him and left. I still feel really disappointed by the world and I'd like cross-server blacklist were a thing.

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Originally Posted by Nathair

Please read it again: the guy had i200 accessories.
As in, esoteric accessories.
And a lvl 57 weapon.
I would've noticed very low HP otherwise, and MT without a question.

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Esoteric accessories are cheaper than weapons, and can be used by all tank jobs. Weapons and armor cannot. As we have no idea if he has other tanks at 60, my point still stands.

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Originally Posted by Februs

40, painful, minutes later, we clear the final boss room, in which both adds were ignored for far too long, and all of the idols were killed by me, not the dps. I couldn't get out of there fast enough.

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Couple things that come to me as possible reasons. Was that the healers first run in that dungeon? Or first run in a mass pull dungeon in general. When I got it first time ages ago now, it took me by surprise. And couple of the chests are a bit out of the way, if she went to them assuming you'd just do normal pull of about two groups, no wonder they are left behind.

First boss comes, they stand just right outside starting to type a question about mechanics, trusting to the common gesture that people don't pull until everyone is inside, and end up locked out when typing. Later in the dungeon they don't dare ask anything from you because, from their point of view you've been the arrogant asshats who pull boss without waiting everyone to be in, and instead tries to get answers from /fc chat or online which causes the pauses.

Just, possible other side to your story to think of.

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Originally Posted by Soraki-Muppe

Only had one group that did not do that, I have simply gotten used to making sure mine is faced the right way and then drag the boss to a safe spot.

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Yeah that's what I did too, but they failed at mechanics at every fight. They had good dps but it wasn't spectacular enough where they could ignore mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Sida

Couple things that come to me as possible reasons. Was that the healers first run in that dungeon? Or first run in a mass pull dungeon in general.

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There was no noob bonus, so no. Everyone had been there before. The healer didn't seem new to big pull heals either. It was more like they were semi-afk or something.

To give you an example, after the first boss I did a two step pull in the following hallway, and the healer had no problem keeping me alive ... until they stopped healing. It's not that they couldn't keep me up. They just stopped casting (full Mp, just to cover that base) and proceeded to, literally, run circles around my character (getting nailed by several AoE's in the process). We killed the mobs before they killed me (thankfully), and we moved on, but the healer just stood there for a minute and had to pop sprint to catch up again. After that, I proceeded to do baby pulls (one group at a time), because I simply didn't trust the Healer to not drift off into lala-land during the fights and the Dps were too slow to guarantee victory before death.

They also didn't stop at the short pulls, or even at a pull, for that matter. They were just plain stopping. We'd be running along, and they'd just come to an abrupt stop (No DC indicator either) in the middle of an empty hallway. Nothing there, and I don't have aggro on anything. They just stopped, frequently and for no apparent reason. They also didn't so much as utter a word during the entire run, even when I asked and gave them ample time to respond after the first boss wipe.

If I had to guess, I'd say that they were either being intentionally stupid (running circles around your tank and eating AoE's to the face instead of doing their job would suggest this), or they were thoroughly distracted by FC chat or real life ... in which case then they should not have queued for a dungeon in the first place.

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Is not that they shouldn't Q of real life happens because real life happens when it wants to...not when you plan to but at the very least say "excuse me" or "something happened"...not just stand there without saying nothing.

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Is not that they shouldn't Q of real life happens because real life happens when it wants to...not when you plan to but at the very least say "excuse me" or "something happened"...not just stand there without saying nothing.

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That's fair, but the reason I said that was because they were like that from the very start of the dungeon. I was the one who applied the introductory buffs (Pld casting protect and stoneskins for the win). They just stood there a minute, twitched around a little, then stood there some more. When I took off, they followed. So, I figured everything was dandy. Shortly afterwards it became obvious that things were most certainly not dandy.

All in all, though, you're right. You can't help when real life stuff happens. So it's no big deal if it does. That said, I can't say for certain that they had real life stuff happening, because they didn't say a damn word the entire time, even when I spoke to them. It's also a different story when you are distracted from the very first second you get into the dungeon. Even if they did have real life stuff happening, there's a point when you're waiting in queue and can make a judgement call on if that real life stuff will get in the way. This person made the call to accept the queue, even when they weren't committed to it. That, of course, is assuming that they were, in fact, distracted (which is the more generous assumption). They could have also just been a trolling idiot.

Six or seven months ago, I signed up and came to this forum.

Tanked midas for the first time last night and failed miserably. Ive gone as Bard, getting my items every week and know the fights all really well from the dps perspective.

Went in on my tank char last night with a couple friends and feel pretty bad about it (although part of it was the mt on m3 always dying during cat phase). My main problem was the cannons in m2 and m4. One cannon or two the spells look exactly the same to me, so I either died or killed everyone else. Only made it thru m4 because my drg friend wold say 1 or 2 in fc chat before the attack finished. I felt so awful.

Leveling up and doing expert dungeons and stuff I felt pretty confident, but now I know there's still a lot to learn.

I hope the groups I had didn't hate me too much and I apologised profusely for being so terrible T_T it'll take courage to do them again this week but I'll do it. Practice makes perfect. Don't know what I would have done without my fc mates to coach me thru the nightmare.

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Try not to beat yourself up over it. Some of the Midas mechs take a run or two to get the hang of it, especially because the fights are so dependent on visual cues.

The cat phase during M3 is probably one of the most hated phases in Midas for Tanks, especially the second phase in which there are two balls, simply because the damn cat is so hard to see and you have limited places to move. One of the most useful groups I've ever run with actually had a ranged Dps mark themselves with a triangle and follow the cat around just so the Tank knew where it was. I've had my own tanking horror story with it, because my second ever run of M3 involved a DC'd tank. I had to solo the entire fight, and I had only seen the mechs once before. We cleared after a couple of wipes, and both of them were caused by the cat phase. One happened when I didn't see the damn cat until it was too late. I tried to move, but couldn't get him far enough away in time. The other happened because I got pancaked by both rolling balls trying to avoid the stupid kitty. I got punted from one right into the other. Instant death.

The cannon mech was annoying the first time too. My instructions were "One arm = CD. Two arms = split dmg," so I expected the boss to assume a different posture involving one or two arms depending on the attack. Suffice to say, I was very confused when he assumed an identical posture for both attacks. It wasn't until my second attempt that I figured out that you had to look very closely (and specifically) at his hands to identify if he had cannons no both, or just one (and they look more like blunt, steel, boxing gloves to me, but w/e).

Like I said, though, don't let it get to you. If you need a pick me up, just remember that 99% of Dps players in the game fail the "Mirage" mechanic in M2 and 4. I can literally count on one hand how many Dps I've seen kite the Mirages to the edge of the map, let alone face them out, away from the group. Every run I've done I've either had one dropped right next to me (often on both sides of me), and it's usually facing my direction.

In the hand cannon phase, you can actually see inside the cage that's swirling around his hands before he reveals them in the end of the cast. I seem to recall that if it's one cannon, it's always in the same hand. So as soon as he starts the cast, try to check if the other hand has cannon, if it does, it's a two cannon hit.

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Originally Posted by Sida

In the hand cannon phase, you can actually see inside the cage that's swirling around his hands before he reveals them in the end of the cast. I seem to recall that if it's one cannon, it's always in the same hand. So as soon as he starts the cast, try to check if the other hand has cannon, if it does, it's a two cannon hit.

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Yup, it's always the same hand. The way I do it is I just look at his left hand. His left hand will either have a drill for the random party member attack, a stump for the single laser, or a cannon for the double laser.

Alright, got another one. I tanked Midas for an FC mate last night and had some interesting co-tanks. The first run was in M2.

This group was actually pretty solid. They were fast and everything went pretty smooth. There was only one "bad' part, and it happened during the Brawler boss. I got three stacks of vulnerability, and I stopped attacking to avoid keeping aggro for the OT's voke ... only he doesn't voke. AoE's went out, so I figure he just couldn't voke at the time and I wait it out. Everyone hops back on boss, and the Drk doesn't voke. Four stacks. Still no voke. I'm starting to wonder if I should say something. Five stacks. Still nothing. AoE's and CD management stop my from typing, so I just start jumping up and down to try to get the Drk's attention while I keep the boss out of puddles. He doesn't seem to notice. Six stacks. Dmg is starting to get unmanageable. I get "SWAP" into the chat box, but he still doesn't voke. Seven stacks. Boss is hitting really hard now. Healers are struggling to keep up and I'm running out of CD's. Eight stacks. Pop Hallowed Ground. It carries me for a bit, but I'm at the end of the line and die on the ninth stack. Healer resurrects me, then gives me the hug emote and slaps the OT.

It gave me a good chuckle, and, aside from that, the rest of the run went pretty smoothly. I'm assuming the OT just got some tunnel vision. Happens to the best of us.

Second run was in M4, and this was a true mess to deal with. The other tank was beyond special.

The other tank, also a Pld, pulls the boss as MT. Doesn't even ask, just goes for it. I'm thinking, "great! I get to OT for once." I prep for Perpetual Ray swaps. Attack goes off. I voke boss to eat follow ups ... and the other tank takes aggro right back. I figure I just wasn't fast enough on my follow up and prep for the second voke ... but the same thing happens again. I notice that the MT is maintaining his enmity combo even when I am voking. He seems to have no concept of how a Tank swap works. It's no big deal though. I work around him and we get to stage two.

At this point, I'm not really sure what happened, because I was on the other side of the arena tanking my add, but the MT died somehow. I do dmg control. The healers res him. He vokes his add back and we move on to the second set. Again, I'm not sure what happened here, but, somehow, the other tank lands himself with 2 stacks of vulnerability before we burn the adds on top of the weakness from dying.

His mistakes are starting to escalate, and he's got a pretty hefty debuff on him now; so, at the start of the next stage I type, "I'll take boss since you have vuln," into the chat box. He must not have understood what that meant though, because he voked the boss off of me as soon as he was able. I figure it's not a big deal, since weakness fell off and vulnerability is sure to follow. I assume the OT roll, and soak double rocket punches as they come up ... and then perpetual ray happens, and the other tank stands in it for it's full duration. He soaks up a whopping 5 stacks of vulnerability and dies to the next double rocket punch, even with me standing there with him. I voke the boss, swap to shield oath, and take over the MT roll again. The healers rez the other tank, who proceeds to simply stand in one spot and do nothing. I don't know if he was afk or what, but he ate the next laser attack and dies again. The healers res him again, and this time he at least starts attacking the boss; though, he fails to soak ANY of the rocket punches. It's no big deal. I can take them solo with the right CD's, and the healers have clearly caught onto the fact that the other tank is licking the bus window because they're focusing me for each punch. I start to feel kind of bad for them, though, because they're wasting a lot of Mp trying to babysit the other tank.

He continues to make huge mistakes and gets himself killed to yet another ray attack. The healers rez, again. This time, just to make things interesting, he kites a super jump ON TOP OF MY HEAD. I survive, but he dies to it. The healer's rez him yet again. By some miracle, we cleared the fight, but by the end of it I was tempted to tell the healers to just leave him dead on the ground, because he was causing more harm than good.

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Originally Posted by Februs

the healers have clearly caught onto the fact that the other tank is licking the bus window because they're focusing me for each punch. I start to feel kind of bad for them, though, because they're wasting a lot of Mp trying to babysit the other tank.

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Sigged til times and times are thru.

I enjoyed this story. :)

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