I wanted a game and all I got were cutscenes

What is Final fantasy without cutscenes?
I like cutscenes in this game very much because of how well-fit it is to the backgrounds the immersion it helped. The story itself is enough to keep me watching all and every scene. Unlike the vast majority of games, where cutscene doesn't matter, story doesn't matter and some don't even have both.

In the end, I think well-made cutscenes are part of the Final fantasy spirit. So if you don't enjoy lengthly cutscenes like I do, then I suppose it's not for you.

Also, I feel that the reason you feel it's too long because you tried to rush things to get to the new contents, rather than enjoying the game at the usual pace. That obviously will make you feel those things are a chore. Breaking down the main quests, doing side quests and other things in-between, you will feel those contents are actually not that long at all.

I think you have a typo.
Diehard *WoW fan - not FF

The CS are what draw me into the story.
If I wanted to just read everything I would grab a book.

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Originally Posted by OccamX

I do want to see the story though. Just not all in one sitting.

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So...... DON'T!

I'm sorry your a diehard Final Fantasy fan but don't wanna see the cutscenes. Which Final Fantasy games did you play because I don't think it was the ones we all did.

Final Fantasy is all about the story, cutscenes, lore etc. If you don't like it, I'm sorry but why on earth are you even playing it.

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Originally Posted by Felis

You really don't want to see cutscenes like this never again?
https://youtu.be/VGdz1gjQPrE?t=994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INzA1l4oV6A

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Felis, I'd absolutely love to see cutscenes like that again. Right now a good portion of our cutscenes are more like knights at the dinner table talking to each other and lots of nodding. Here is an example from 2.0...

https://youtu.be/HBxF9WTewew

Now, that one is an introductionary one for the leader of Gridania so it is justified given that Final Fantasy builds itself around characters and motives, but you get the idea. The 1.0 cutscene is better in my mind.

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You don't want to watch the story but you want to watch the story? Doesn't even make any logical sense?

Hit ESC then watch them at you leisure in the Inn Room. If you don't want to even do that then this isn't the game for you.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Now, that one is an introductionary one for the leader of Gridania so it is justified given that Final Fantasy builds itself around characters and motives, but you get the idea. The 1.0 cutscene is better in my mind.

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Yeah, 2.x CS feeled like rushed most time, but 3.0 CS feel like 1.0 CS again

3.0 Spoiler: first meeting with Ravana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoM4YtSeVY4

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

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You don't want to watch the story but you want to watch the story? Doesn't even make any logical sense?

Hit ESC then watch them at you leisure in the Inn Room. If you don't want to even do that then this isn't the game for you.

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Well, there is a difference between watching a story and being part of the story. Most people playing games expect to be part of the story and have the narrative appear through environment interaction. The same can not be said of sitting through cutscenes in place of direct interaction.

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Originally Posted by Felis

You really don't want to see cutscenes like this never again?
https://youtu.be/VGdz1gjQPrE?t=994

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You call that good Cutszenes? All i see is the yapping of one minor bad npc and the usually "im sooooo weak...nope just kidding" stance of the WoL

Yeah pretty much un-epic. *yawn*

And the Shiva one is from ARR...so not counting.

Too busy hee-hawing about CS's where the rest of us tired fellows just press ESC and call it a day.
I ain't listening to a word this dude says because FF13 is CS heaven.
You can't sit here and tell us that you have less freedom than FF13, you can't. Every damn time ya turn around
it was a CS. That game has more 'story' than any other. You basically paid to read a visual novel with a hint of battles.
60GB on steam for a book....Fun part of my rant is I love that game but God damn the cutscence's were every 5 seconds!
When I actually start fighting is when I had a blast.

Also....3.0 has an amazing story and 2.0 was incredibly lackluster to me.
I actually played more of 3.0 BECAUSE of the story but hey.

You bought a game.. all you got was cutscenes..


Sounds like you bought Star Wars the Old Republic

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Originally Posted by Hypie

You call that good Cutszenes? All i see is the yapping of one minor bad npc and the usually "im sooooo weak...nope just kidding" stance of the WoL

Yeah pretty much un-epic. *yawn*

And the Shiva one is from ARR...so not counting.

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In this CS the WoL was not a WoL, just an adventurer who was on a mission for a Grand Company. And Nael was the major bad guy during 1.x

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Originally Posted by Felis

In this CS the WoL was not a WoL, just an adventurer who was on a mission for a Grand Company. And Nael was the major bad guy during 1.x

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That Dude looked f*ckin Weak so i never took him seriously even as the Main Cast. More like "ah yeah just yap all day in the end i kill you anyways*go does something until cs is done*". I was more impressed of Ifrit in ARR than to this Dude.

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Originally Posted by Havenae

You bought a game.. all you got was cutscenes..
Sounds like you bought Star Wars the Old Republic

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At least SW:ToR is full voiced and not like "lets do the first half with Voice then just stop because the voice actors are fed up saying lines."

So you thought a Final Fantasy game (which is known to have a lot of dialogue/cutscenes) wouldn't have a lot of dialogue/cutscenes? Is this really a serious complaint?

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Originally Posted by Hypie

At least SW:ToR is full voiced and not like "lets do the first half with Voice then just stop because the voice actors are fed up saying lines."

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SWToR spent over 200 million dollars to have that full voice acting. They put so much stock into it they missed out on other important parts of the game such as polish and endgame raiding. Their first raid, Eternity Vault, was plowed through, even though it was horribly riddled with bugs. The game was nearly a void at endgame. It's just not feasible to make a fully voice acted game unless you have a gigantic budget to work with where it won't detract from other parts of the game.

The reason FFXIV isn't fully voice acted is they likely don't have the budget to devote to that, so they only voice the important scenes.

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Originally Posted by OccamX

Diehard FF fan here.

I wanted a game and all i got were cutscenes

Sorry, Square-Enix. It breaks my heart but I can't play this game.

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you need to rethink your life decisions bro

Story is SW:TOR's main focus again, just like it was originally on release. Their devs said for the next year there will be no new endgame, only more story. Which I'm fine with because my friends and I quit raiding on it years ago. By the way, their endgame is STILL riddled with horrible bugs. Always have been, always will be. PTS never changed that. Currently, there's a chance that a boss will reset when defeated, without dropping loot. LOL. The hardest boss in the game. Anyway... I loved every moment of SW:TOR story so I'm looking forward to this year.

OP, I understand the issue. I agree that SE needs some kind of abridged version of the story for new or returning players. But, with that said, there is plenty of stuff in the game to get caught up on aside from just story that you could be weaving in between the story stuff. If you don't want to do any of that other stuff, like leveling another class, gathering, crafting, sightseeing log, triple triad collection, zodiac weapon, solo old dungeons for fun or challenge (you can solo ARR dungeons now), etc, then that's your own fault. I myself was not too interested in the story until the end of the 2.X series. The story gets very interesting at the end of 2.55, which you're almost there. In Heavensward, everything is much improved, and the story actually had me hooked. The writing is so much better, and a better variety of things, and the pacing is done differently. There's even a ton of voice acting now, including voices during major bosses and battles. Everything is better and improved. You will be missing out on one of the best expansions ever released in an MMO, both in size and quality, if you back out now. The reward will be worth the trudge. At the end of 2.55 you will be greeted with around an hour to hour and a half of story driven cutscenes like watching a movie, but believe me when I tell you that you will actually enjoy these scenes. It's full of plot twists and sets the stage for HW. I don't want to ruin anything. It's not the boring 'skip' kind of stuff.

https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...eb&oe=56325E73

I got interested in the game after watching 9+ hours of cutscenes from FF XIII Lightning Returns.

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Originally Posted by OccamX

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Ahhhh OccamX another thread? Really? How many of these thread will you make and how many times will I have to tell you, if you don't like the game STOP PLAYING IT. If you like apples and don't like oranges, stop trying to turn this orange into an apple. Good god man!

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Originally Posted by Sterre

You can always skip the story and cutscenes if it's a problem for you. I have many friends who don't care about the story and got through the MSQ very fast. I really don't see the problem here.

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Skipping every cutscene and spamming through dialogue, teleporting as close as I can to every quest objective and using ilvl 115 gear from heavensward it took me about 12 hours to finish the 100 story quests I had to do after hitting level 50 until I could play heavensward.

All while getting practically no exp or worthwhile rewards. Why couldn't I just skip this if I felt like it? I don't play this game for the story anyway.

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

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Because the game was not designed this way. You can argue all day that it should be, the fact remain that it is not. This is a story driven game and thus you need to complete story to advance. It is not SE's fault if you did not play when everyone else was during this past year and did not get yourself ready for the expansion.

My advice to you is play thegame the way it is, if you don't like it and it's enough to REALLY bug you, then vote with your money and move on, this game is not for you.

When I figured WoW was not for me anymore, I didnt throw a tantrum or post on the forums to bitch about it, I left, after a decade of playing it. It's okay to admit the game is not designed for you.

Clearly I did it anyway. I'm just saying it was an unpleasant waste of time to get to the content I wanted to play and had payed for already.

The question really is why was it designed this way?

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

Clearly I did it anyway. I'm just saying it was an unpleasant waste of time to get to the content I wanted to play and had payed for already.

The question really is why was it designed this way?

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It is designed as almost every other MMO is designed. Let's take WoW for instance, let's say I had stopped playing in Wrath of the Lich King (2nd expansion) and wanted to jump in Pandaria (4th expansion) right away. I couldnt. Why? Because I had to progress through the content of Cataclysm (3rd expansion) in some ways shape or form. Not the whole thing mind you but parts of it yes. It is the exact same thing in between 2.x and 3.0. SE is not asking you to clear Binding Coil to get to the expansion, you don't even have to have completed all side quests, you only need to complete MSQ.

Buying an expansion to an MMO not expecting to have to play through the first game before heading into the expansion was stupid. Even worse! You knew ahead of time, months in advance, that it was gonna be this way and you still complain about it on the forums. WHat did you think was gonna happen seriously?

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Originally Posted by Geryth

Click through chat boxes and escape through cut scenes. I would love to sit through the story but I just don't have time. The game is a great MMO even without following the main story.

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I'm in the same boat lol

When HW Came out I completed my 2.0 / 2.5 / 2.55 Story quests. Got a ton of rewards and exp. Enjoyed the Cutscenes / cinematics. Did dungeons / quests. Enjoyed completing them and the rewards.

I loved how large the 3.0 Maps are. I loved flying. I Loved the update to my class. The cut scenes aren't that long. (They are 10 minutes each at best). I spent most of my time finding aether nodes and finding moogles LOL.

I have a couple FC mates who have skipped every cutscene since 1.0 beta.

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Originally Posted by lydiah

It is designed as almost every other MMO is designed. Let's take WoW for instance, let's say I had stopped playing in Wrath of the Lich King (2nd expansion) and wanted to jump in Pandaria (4th expansion) right away. I couldnt. Why? Because I had to progress through the content of Cataclysm (3rd expansion) in some ways shape or form. Not the whole thing mind you but parts of it yes. It is the exact same thing in between 2.x and 3.0. SE is not asking you to clear Binding Coil to get to the expansion, you don't even have to have completed all side quests, you only need to complete MSQ.

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Not sure why you chose WoW of all games because nothing you said is true. WoW in particular makes it very easy to skip all the previous games content in order to get to the current expansion and even go as far as giving you an instant level 90. There was no WoW expansion where you were forced to do any previous content.

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

The question really is why was it designed this way?

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Because the developers want the focus of the experience to be on the story.

Of course, I'm sure you already know that; you just don't like it.

You could always do what one of my FC mates does: Skip all the cutscenes then have me give an abridged version at the end. All caps optional but more fun.

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Originally Posted by Sterre

You can always skip the story and cutscenes if it's a problem for you. I have many friends who don't care about the story and got through the MSQ very fast. I really don't see the problem here.

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^ This...

I hated 1.0->2.25 ARR MSQ >_>

I skipped all the quest cutscenes & dialogue after hitting Lv.20

I barely took more than 2 weeks to go from Lv.1 to 50 ilv110, and it was (ofc) without nay Armory Bonus, and mostly without any FC or item granting bonus XP.

Just press dat ESCAPE key boy ! It does wonders.

Thankfully, the later parts of the 2.55 MSQ is decent and then the Heavensward MSQ isn't too bad... So I stopped skipping there lol

I wish everyone would stop saying 'just watch 'em in the inn,' because the Inn journal has very few CS. Normally just the opening CS and the end CS for any dungeon/raid etc.

Example: Rock the Castrum shows the big speech outside the main gate, nothing at all during the instance, and we all know there were tons in there! Same for the Praetorium/Ultima fight. All we get is Gaius' parrting words and the frantic run to escape on the magitek reaper.

The one CS I really wanted to watch is not there..where we kill Lahabrea with the blade of light. Ugh... :mad:

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Originally Posted by T2teddy

I wish everyone would stop saying 'just watch 'em in the inn,' because the Inn journal has very few CS. Normally just the opening CS and the end CS for any dungeon/raid etc.

Example: Rock the Castrum shows the big speech outside the main gate, nothing at all during the instance, and we all know there were tons in there! Same for the Praetorium/Ultima fight. All we get is Gaius' parrting words and the frantic run to escape on the magitek reaper.

The one CS I really wanted to watch is not there..where we kill Lahabrea with the blade of light. Ugh... :mad:

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Did you use the scrollbar? All the cutscenes were there for me.
Not saying it's optimal either..but. Yeah they were there.