39.99 to 129.99 for expansion pshh... yea right!

Spain seems to get a better deal for a change.

All the members of my local guild just pre-purchased our standard physical editions. 29'99€ PC 34'99€ PS4

$40!? Who the hell is pricing this? I would gladly spend $20-30 on it, but $40? That's a brand new game price. This isn't a new game, it's an expansion of an old one.

Pricing seems normal, though a cardboard sleeve is pretty ghetto imo that and I'd also rather have an OST than trailers or some other media that isn't already readily accessible (developer making of, special interviews, "Yoshida's guide to coil" something). Besides that, Japan pays the same as NA and gets more is a little meh.. then you have EU pricing and I laugh because its that sad XD.

Quality should be the same, and the price approximately the same as well (15,000 is ~ to $ price). Otherwise meh, I wasn't too surprised - if what SE says is accurate, that the expansion is about the same amount of content as ARR's release, then I think that fairly warrants a near new game price.

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$40!? Who the hell is pricing this? I would gladly spend $20-30 on it, but $40? That's a brand new game price. This isn't a new game, it's an expansion of an old one.

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Name one mainstream MMO with an expansion that is less than $40 with content that comes close to what HW is adding.
I can name at least three games with expansions priced at or above $40:
EQ1
EQ2
WoW
GW2 will as well, and all of GW1's cost about $50.

And that's before considering none of these games have added THREE new classes in a single expansion in addition to a new race, on top of huge new maps.

Brand new games were 60$, last I checked. 70$ in some places.

40$ for an expansion is completely reasonable.

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$40!? Who the hell is pricing this? I would gladly spend $20-30 on it, but $40? That's a brand new game price. This isn't a new game, it's an expansion of an old one.

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I'd love to know where 40 bucks is brand new game price.

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$40!? Who the hell is pricing this? I would gladly spend $20-30 on it, but $40? That's a brand new game price. This isn't a new game, it's an expansion of an old one.

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I actually kind of hoping you wrote that to play devil's advocate. You would be hard pressed to find a brand new game priced so low at 40. US$59.99 is typically the norm with some variation. $40 dollars for an MMO expansion is very reasonable.

$40 seems about on point. If I recall FFXI expansions were $30, but it's been nearly 10 years since I bought one of those and most games retailed for $50 at that time. Now most games are $60 and Heavensward, even if they are overestimating the content, will definitely have a lot more to do than most $60 games (granted there is also the sub). Sure they make some money selling the expansions, why shouldn't they? But it's not marked up too much. The CE on the other hand, well everyone knows that's primarily to show your support and give them some more money. If all you actually wanted was a dragon figurine, well, you have the internet obviously.

Can anyone tell me the price for ff11 expansions please?,cause I believe adoulin expansion was only 29.99, and I was a huge ff11 player and I never spent that much for just one expansion in ff11. Just saying 50 bucks for a expansion with only 2 new jobs, heavenward better give off the wow im hooked effect cause recently I haven't been feeling that from 14 like I did in ff11.

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Can anyone tell me the price for ff11 expansions please?,cause I believe adoulin expansion was only 29.99, and I was a huge ff11 player and I never spent that much for just one expansion in ff11. Just saying 50 bucks for a expansion with only 2 new jobs, heavenward better give off the wow im hooked effect cause recently I haven't been feeling that from 14 like I did in ff11.

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Um the Expansion isn't 50 bucks its 40 bucks, 60 if you want a the CE download stuff and 130 if you want all the CE physical stuff.

As long as it does has a much content as 2.0 launch I'll pay for a digital CE (no choice on EU PS3...) but it does seem pricey, most I paid for ex-packs in past was £20 for the C&C series expansions.

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Originally Posted by gamesmart

That may be the case in Euros, but for the UK the price tag is the equivalent of something around $190 because someone in SE thought a 1:1 price conversion ratio was a good idea.

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Canada as well, 2 day shipping + physical CE, my total was $200.08 ...ouch lol

CE is tailored to "collectors" so the pricing is whatever SE feels it can be sold on, anything added to "base" expansion is a plus so you will be the one deciding if all extra stuff is worth of the price. Will not talk about 'unique' items because you all know, it will be likely to happen you can get them anyway later on shop.

Or else you can buy just the base expansion. Extra stuff is extra.

Steam sale where?
Jk lol

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I doubt it was at little to no profit. Yeah they might have lost some revenue when they removed the sub and the fact that legacy players got it free, but $40 for a game isnt that far off.

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Technically, it's not just "Legacy players" but everybody who suscribed during FFXIV v1.

Bought the game, created your account, despised the obvious beta and never touched the game until ARR ? You also got it free.
And, at lauch, I'm sure v1 players were the vast majority of ARR playerbase.

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I'd love to know where 40 bucks is brand new game price.

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3DS games, they're all $40. So it's technically the lowest point cost for a brand new game.

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I actually kind of hoping you wrote that to play devil's advocate. You would be hard pressed to find a brand new game priced so low at 40. US$59.99 is typically the norm with some variation. $40 dollars for an MMO expansion is very reasonable.

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A little bit of advocate. I'm constantly low on cash due to bills, and FFXIV's subscription is where the little that is left goes.

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$40!? Who the hell is pricing this? I would gladly spend $20-30 on it, but $40? That's a brand new game price. This isn't a new game, it's an expansion of an old one.

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What do you do when you buy a brand new MMORPG? Level up through quests, explore the zones, gear up and play endgame.

What are you going to do when Heavensward launches? Level up through quests, explore the zones, gear up and play endgame.

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3DS games, they're all $40. So it's technically the lowest point cost for a brand new game.

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Dude.. Mobile games are like $5.

Where's my $5 expansion? That's how much games cost now, right?

MMO expansions have been $40 for decades. If anything they should be MORE because of inflation, which is why WoW's newest one is $50.

They said that it will have as much content as the main game, so the Heavensward standard edition is priced reasonably.

I do think 129.99 ridiculous price for CE, when it only has blue ray, artbook and dragon figure. I would've expected to get 1 month free with that kind of price.

I'm happy with my digital CE though. If people have that kind of money then they can buy the 129.99, it's their own decision in the end.

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Can anyone tell me the price for ff11 expansions please?,cause I believe adoulin expansion was only 29.99, and I was a huge ff11 player and I never spent that much for just one expansion in ff11. Just saying 50 bucks for a expansion with only 2 new jobs, heavenward better give off the wow im hooked effect cause recently I haven't been feeling that from 14 like I did in ff11.

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You can’t compare a FFXI expansion to FFXIV. There is way more work done for FFXIV in comparison to FFXI and that is mostly due to models and graphics. It is also an older game that is going to have its final story conclusion soon.

And the expansion is more of a ‘Part 2’ in terms of size. Just look at FFXIII, the FFXIII-2 sequel cost the same price as the original even though it was a continuation.

You can always wait a year or two for the price to drop, but $40 is not expensive for a video game. And as others said, you are not forced to buy the CE versions.

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Can anyone tell me the price for ff11 expansions please?,cause I believe adoulin expansion was only 29.99, and I was a huge ff11 player and I never spent that much for just one expansion in ff11. Just saying 50 bucks for a expansion with only 2 new jobs, heavenward better give off the wow im hooked effect cause recently I haven't been feeling that from 14 like I did in ff11.

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Because 10 years of inflation means nothing.

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3DS games, they're all $40. So it's technically the lowest point cost for a brand new game.

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In the U.S.
In Japan they MSRP for sometimes more than 5000￥, which is about $50. To give an example, well...here: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E5%A4%A7%E4...5&keywords=3DS
Please keep in mind i'm pointing out the MSRP, not the discounted price only Amazon seems to get away with in Japan (they have bonkers laws that says the copyright holders can dictate pricing in stores, but Amazon apparently uses a loophole or something)
Americans are quite...finicky...about how much they're willing to pay for things. Japanese marketers hate us for that reason.

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Americans are quite...finicky...about how much they're willing to pay for things. Japanese marketers hate us for that reason.

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Man... that's sure a crying shame. Didn't know that about Japanese manufacturers though. That's interesting.

$40 is fine for an MMO expansion. $50 is even fine for an MMO expansion.. because currency changes value over time.

I can only assume that people complaining about the price point fall into one of the following categories:
1: Someone playing their first MMO and had absolutely no idea. Education fixes this. Sometimes.
2: Someone from the EU who is getting, frankly, boned. Only SE can fix this, and they don't seem to be in a right hurry to do that.
3: Someone talking about the physical collector's edition. This one does seem a little pricier than it maybe needs to be. But honestly, if you're one of those people that buys collector's editions of things, you should be used to it by now.

well i have no clue as to what steam is/does, but from how sony handled its vita games at launch (39.99 physical, 34.99 digital) on even day 1 games i figured most digital sales were supposed to be cheaper. i own ff14 as a digital copy from what i believe was a mistake so i didnt know if it was cheaper than physical or not.

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well i have no clue as to what steam is/does.

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Steam is a platform where you can buy a lot (like, really a lot) of games as digital copies. The prices are around the same as the physical copies. Though (and that's where it becomes interesting) they hold sales in summer and around christmas, with reductions from 30% to 90% (some games may even be free when they feel like it. As an example, they offered Portal for free for 3 days after Portal 2 release) on nearly all the big hits of the year.

They also have regular sales throughout the year, with 10-30% reduction most of the time on indies.

(that's PC exclusive though)

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3DS games, they're all $40. So it's technically the lowest point cost for a brand new game.


A little bit of advocate. I'm constantly low on cash due to bills, and FFXIV's subscription is where the little that is left goes.

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This guy pretty much answers your handheld game argument:

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Dude.. Mobile games are like $5.

Where's my $5 expansion? That's how much games cost now, right?

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We aren't talking about handhelds or mobile phone games though. We are talking about the standard PC/Console launch price.

So if you have 1 account but play on ps3 why can't you use that same account to play on ps4 without buying another key like you can with PC?

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3DS games, they're all $40. So it's technically the lowest point cost for a brand new game.


A little bit of advocate. I'm constantly low on cash due to bills, and FFXIV's subscription is where the little that is left goes.

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wow I didn't know FF 14 played on the 3ds

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Originally Posted by Kogasan

So if you have 1 account but play on ps3 why can't you use that same account to play on ps4 without buying another key like you can with PC?

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Good question. The only thing that makes any sense there is that Sony has set up some kind of roadblock to prevent it.