what kept ffxi fresh for players , cant be found here.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

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Why would you want another class/job when you haven't levelled all the ones available to you, yea I'm being sarcastic a little, thing is there is plenty of "other" content out there but some of it won't be of interest to you, but that doesn't mean it no longer exists.

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because i'm not into casting so that rules out sumoner, white mage, and black mage for me. i've also have no need to level paladin any further as i have warrior which I prefer. I would like new classes because I enjoy the lower level content more (pre i80) plus new play styles hopefully.

plus - the musketeer symbol at Coral Tower has been teasing me since 1.0

I'm going to print this thread.

And then I'm going to burn it.

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Originally Posted by Arrak

Yes, current content is usually what matters when a new player enters the game. That's why I specifically mentioned that they're consistently adding new FEATURES. Features and content. Two different things.

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We agree then, only current top end content matters.
But how do you define features, as opposed to content.

If every time they add content, they make previous content worth less, (but not worthless) then the net amount of content is not increased.

If they added 3 new dungeons that dropped i75 gear, people wouldnt be lining up to run AK/WP/PS/HM-H/CM-H.

People would just do CT, and the new dungeons.

At first thought, I agreed with Youmadesca. Why in the world would more HM ilvl 55 dungeons be added??

But I think it is to give more variety for tome farming, maybe.

Also, I really hope they add some buffs or benefit to housing. Gardening looks cool.

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Originally Posted by Dhex

I'm going to print this thread.

And then I'm going to burn it.

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Good for you buddy. You tell em pal.

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Originally Posted by Khavir

Good for you buddy. You tell em pal.

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I must show my contempt for this thread to the universe.

The ozone must suffer the same damage my brain cells have incurred.


Justice must be served!



FFXI: The unending repetition of FFXI was dull. Finally Level 75 and capped EXP? Better not die. Better continue EXP grinding and get those proper Merits. Better grind that sub up. Better go do Sky for the ___th time and get those Crimson Breeches. Dynamis time. Same as last time. Same as next time. Pray you get the drops you want. Go stand at the same HNM camp you've been standing at for years waiting for that short window that happens every ___minutes/Hours/Days. Better grab the ToD on that NM you've seen and killed ___ times and never got a drop from.


How many of the people ever got a Vilma's Ring?

You want this sort of crap again:

Spawns at (I-7) if the Overgrown Rose there has not been "disturbed" for 10 hours. After 10 hours have passed, the Overgrown Rose has a chance to despawn for the next 30 minutes and morph into Rose Garden. After 30 minutes have passed, if it has not done so already, Overgrown Rose will despawn, and morph into Rose Garden.
If Rose Garden is left up without being killed long enough, Voluptuous Vilma should appear, however it is unknown how long it is required to be up.
More than 4 hours have been tested camping Rose Garden without a sign of Voluptuous Vilma.
Reported to have 1% HP/ tic Regen (Status Effect) during Sunny weather. Reported if Rose Garden spawns during Sunny weather that the Regen (Status Effect) will have a significant increase in potency.
Susceptible to most enfeebles including Sleep, Paralyze, Bind and Gravity.
Makes use of Vampiric Lash, stealing your positive buffs and transfering its enfeebles to you, keeping shadows or blink up is advised.
In the event that the Overgrown Rose has been aggroed or touched in any way (including failed charms), the timer of 10 hours and 15 minutes will begin again.
Like all monsters, it will only depop if it lost aggro while away from the area in which he spawns and roams.
For example if you run in and Sleep Overgrown Rose then Warp out, the timer is reset but it does not depop.



Sorry but FFXI and "fresh" does not compute.

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

But how do you define features, as opposed to content.

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A feature is a new game feature that content can be added to in future patches. In 2.1 they added PVP, Reputation system for daily quests, 24 man capability, free company housing, aesthetician (I know someone who can waste hours here), and treasure hunting. I may have missed something. In 2.2 they are adding glamour system (again, I know someone who could spend hours transmogging in WoW, not to mention farming transmog/glamour gear will be a time sink), retainer ventures, adding new content to the emotes feature to enhance the social aspect of the game, gardening (which will eventually become an individual activity when player housing is released), and Echo buff to make dungeons that were once impossible for some players possible.


Now think two, three more patches from now, when more features are added on top of this, along with the new content. This game is successful. Success means money. Money means more content for us. 2.0 and 2.1 were preplanned. Everything going forward will be whatever we want and whatever the development team can afford... which is a lot more than at 2.0 and definitely a lot more than 1.0.

I agree with the op.

Also, abyssea was pretty cool and rocking on my server. There was still plenty to do. Ah, how I loved those boss/af3/atma shouts. The bosses also required teamwork and an alliance in abyssea's early stages. XI was still active during the abyssea era, heck, brought some of my homies back.

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Originally Posted by ulti_19

A bunch of side thingies to do for those that like to do housing/gardening things

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Keep in mind that is for FC houses. I still don't understand why didn't they bring out houses for individuals first before Houses for FC.

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Keep in mind that is for FC houses. I still don't understand why didn't they bring out houses for individuals first before Houses for FC.

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One of the biggest issues with ARR has been the server team and their catering to PS3. This is the reason FC housing came out before Individual. They aren't sure the servers can handle that many houses just yet...

What's fresh about doing Sky for 5 years?

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What's fresh about doing Sky for 5 years?

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The addition of the Chinese content added there.

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Originally Posted by Arrak

One of the biggest issues with ARR has been the server team and their catering to PS3. This is the reason FC housing came out before Individual. They aren't sure the servers can handle that many houses just yet...

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Awww ok well thank god for the PS4. I give the PS3 a year maxs before they stop doing updates for it and focus on PC and PS4 only.

the sad truth is as much as i may not like it......during much of FFXI's lifetime the market consisted primairly of hardcore gamers. the number of them has since dwindled for various reasons nand they are now joined by a rather large group mof casual gamers who out number the hardcore ones. i think yoshie alluded to this himself when he said square was trying to use development practices that worked in the ps2 era on ps3.

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Originally Posted by Kluya15

If you exclude dailies, primals, story missions, binding coil raids, Crystal Tower, housing, chocobo companions, treasure hunts, new classes/jobs, and about 40 other things, then yah I guess it has the same content it used to. (

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I said same amount of content. It's right there in the message you quoted. Learn to read.

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The addition of the Chinese content added there.

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I thought those additions were rotten the moment they appeared.

Ffxi was awesome because it took FOREVER to get to 75!!!! The leveling in ARR is button mashing nonsense. I miss the team skill chain baby! That was something that required a good sense of timing but it was sweet when it would happen. Why does everyone need an easy game, why not make ffxiv painful at times? This inspires true skill because you can only surpass to a level if you possess the skill. Bring back the delevel. Loss of exp every time you die. That will definitely make the game longer. All this quality of life bull, guys an mmo is supposed to require a lot of time in order to progress? What has happened!?!?! Bring back the hardcore Mmo style!

FFXI was good because:
-- The community: You *NEEDED* to regularly interact with fellow adventurers, which rewarded nice people and penalized mean people. That is realistic and rewarding.

-- The battle system: Say what you will about the details of FFXI and FFXIV. It has to be agreed upon that the battle mechanics of FFXI were more complicated, varied, and required more player skill to use successfully. For those who want a deeper combat system, FFXI was it.

-- Level Progression: Was slow enough that it was not a race to the finish line. Now, 1-49 is basically a blink and almost pointless to consider an actual accomplishment. To start off at 50 instead of 1 would only save us a couple of days.

-- Equipment Progression: New/better equipment came out in FFXI, but it was a long time in between. Allowing you to savour and enjoy the equipment you finally got for years. In FFXIV, you can easily skip whole equipment sets as the next patch will have something better. The equipment you do get is disposable and tossed every couple of months.

It feels as if FFXIV is based on the premise of: Consume and Dispose. Consume parties and equipment and quickly dispose of them for the next one.

This is great for the modern twitter world everyone wants everything now, then wants the next best thing now. For those who simply want to take the slower, more patient route, FFXIV can be seen as a bit silly.

A few things kept me playing, the music the atomosphere , it felt like a real world and the sense of progression.