Cleric Stance

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Since they are pretty much the same thing I don't see the difference lol

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They are pretty much the same but not the same. DoM can include BLM and SMN which have different acc rates than melee and as far as I know at the moment doesn't have any accuracy problems with their gears, that is one reason I didn't say DoM weapons.

The second reason is healers honestly do not need the accuracy beyond the times we're dps'ing and we should only dps under the condition of us having the free period to do so. Additionally, us not using cleric stance when we dps, a skill which only exists to raise our dps would be a waste. So it'd make more sense to add it onto cleric than a bunch of weapons, it'd also mean less work for SE to put it on a skill used by all healers rather than adjust the weapons for each healer.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

They fixed the problem of accuracy by letting us slot materia into gear

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Afaik you can only Meld main stats into the gear midas/lore so this would only work on crafted items...not only that why would i gimp my stats just to be able to hit 100% of the time when i do a bit of damage to help out that 10% of my time that i spend in a group? Seems pointless when Tanks get Acc in their stance.

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Originally Posted by Lillia

They are pretty much the same but not the same. DoM can include BLM and SMN which have different acc rates than melee and as far as I know at the moment doesn't have any accuracy problems with their gears, that is one reason I didn't say DoM weapons.

The second reason is healers honestly do not need the accuracy beyond the times we're dps'ing and we should only dps under the condition of us having the free period to do so. Additionally, us not using cleric stance when we dps, a skill which only exists to raise our dps would be a waste so it'd make more sense to add it onto cleric than a bunch of weapons.

It'd also mean less work for SE to put it on a skill rather than adjust the weapons.

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Which is why Cleric Stance should have 100% Accuracy.

Giving healers 100% accuracy in Cleric Stance would leave the DPS and tanks rather perplexed as to why the stat even exists any more. You can't give a healer a free stat cap to facilitate damage that the other jobs don't get when it isn't even their role.

Damage from healers is a bonus. If you want to maximize your damage output then by all means sacrifice your healing output to meld accuracy on your gear. If SE gave healers accuracy on Cleric Stance expect to see the damage bonus from Cleric Stance removed to compensate.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Giving healers 100% accuracy in Cleric Stance would leave the DPS and tanks rather perplexed as to why the stat even exists any more. You can't give a healer a free stat cap to facilitate damage that the other jobs don't get when it isn't even their role.

Damage from healers is a bonus. If you want to maximize your damage output then by all means sacrifice your healing output to meld accuracy on your gear. If SE gave healers accuracy on Cleric Stance expect to see the damage bonus from Cleric Stance removed to compensate.

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Why would you meld accuracy when you can meld Crit Chance and get both?

Healers will never catch up with Tanks and DPS in DPS no matter what they give them. If they do, your very bad.

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Originally Posted by Slappah

This is an extremely silly thing to say.

At times can a healer help carry bad dps? Sure

But the ONLY reason for a healer to dps...no...just no

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That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

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Gordias Savage says hello

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

That's the only reason I ever see people say. ' ^'

"These DPS can't finish this run in X minutes if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS can't kill the boss if I don't DPS!"

"These DPS are undergeared so I have to DPS!"

So yeah, it's basically the only reason ever for a healer to DPS, No exceptions from what I've seen.

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If we have free time and the tank doesn't need heals for a moment then it takes away the necessary to heal for that moment, wasting mp to heal back 100~200 hp when a tank has over 21000 hp and isn't taking too much dmg or is gaining more hp back than he/she is losing from spells like regen is just silly.

I don't mind full-time healing but if I have time and the tank doesn't need heals, I'd rather be useful to my group than just standing around... good dps or bad doesn't change that.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Why would you meld accuracy when you can meld Crit Chance and get both?

Healers will never catch up with Tanks and DPS in DPS no matter what they give them. If they do, your very bad.

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It's not about them catching up. It's about healers basically getting special treatment by being allowed to ignore the accuracy stat. It would also act as a confirmation by SE that healers are meant to be doing DPS, when to date they have left that up to the players. Healer DPS is meant to be an optional bonus and it is kept in check by their inability to hit reliably.

SE just nerfed tanks because they genuinely WERE catching up as a result of an unchecked tank DPS meta. If healers were given 100% accuracy we would see a healer DPS meta start evolving. It wouldn't be long before SE would nerf them into the ground as well.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

It's not about them catching up. It's about healers basically getting special treatment by being allowed to ignore the accuracy stat. It would also act as a confirmation by SE that healers are meant to be doing DPS, when to date they have left that up to the players. Healer DPS is meant to be an optional bonus and it is kept in check by their inability to hit reliably.

SE just nerfed tanks because they genuinely WERE catching up as a result of an unchecked tank DPS meta. If healers were given 100% accuracy we would see a healer DPS meta start evolving. It wouldn't be long before SE would nerf them into the ground as well.

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Would you be against acc on weps like someone else originally suggested but also gear? I honestly think it'd be less work to do something with cleric but we just need accuracy in general. :/

(No, I don't like the idea of accuracy melds on healer gear because those melds can be used to actually help stats that affect healing.)