Viera as the next new race~ Show your support

After reading this https://www.finder.com.au/final-fant...ormblood-viera

I'm all like

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c97002e0...PJR1r6xvto.gif


There was a discussion about this interview on reddit as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._for_viera_in/

I'm interested in seeing the rest of the interview.

To all the folks saying Viera are just bunny flavored Miq'ote, Rogs are just tall humans with odd skintones and wierd noses right?

The Viera we hope to see are not just bunny ears on a Miq'ote body, not rabbit tails vs kitty ones. We are hoping for Viera with a different body structure and completely different facial structure from Miq'ote. The Viera face presented early in this thread is as different from a Miq'ote as a Rog from a Hyur.

That said it'is understandable people want to blend them, another reason we don't is lore. A lot of folks want to rp them and would rather they have their own race lore than Miq'ote. Not my personal cup of tea but I can support them for it.

Pls Yoshida for the Love of God dont do this, make a new Race or use some that are in the game (Garleans,Padjal etc.)

But pls dont just put a Race in the game just because it was in another Final Fantasy Game that would be so boring, i mean i understand all that Fanboyism that goes on here about Final Fantasy but until now this game atleast trys to be its own game except for colab events and costumes which is totally ok.

But a entire Race really is a bit much in my oppinion, but jeah im not that of a Final Fantasy fan i just love this game for what it is not for where it came from.

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Originally Posted by Khankra

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You already have a new race that is unique to FFXIV. It's called au ra.

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Originally Posted by Khankra

Pls Yoshida for the Love of God dont do this, make a new Race or use some that are in the game (Garleans,Padjal etc.)

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Padjal must never be playable. Bad enough all the crazy stuff Lalafell get into when people RP them as, 'Children.' Padjal are -actually- kept child-like in physical maturity for hundreds of years. The last thing we need is playable Padjal. As for Garleans, I'm not opposed to the idea per say, but those who say Viera would just be Miqo'te with Bunny Ears and Tails instead of Cat Ears and Tails would probably have a field day with Garleans who would just be Hyur with a third eye on their foreheads.

padjal will never happend, too few people in the race left...
for garlean not possible too since they can't use magic, it kill them to try... foxclon have talk about it while the fanfest... they can't use the magic because of biology trouble that why they use magitek

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Padjal must never be playable. Bad enough all the crazy stuff Lalafell get into when people RP them as, 'Children.' Padjal are -actually- kept child-like in physical maturity for hundreds of years. The last thing we need is playable Padjal. As for Garleans, I'm not opposed to the idea per say, but those who say Viera would just be Miqo'te with Bunny Ears and Tails instead of Cat Ears and Tails would probably have a field day with Garleans who would just be Hyur with a third eye on their foreheads.

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Garleans cannot be playable as they are unable to use magic and cannot Teleport.
The lore book goes into some detail regarding Padjal that perfectly explains why they'll never ever be playable :)

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The youthful and long-lived Padjal are not a race unto themselves, but rather are born rarely into certain Hyur families in the Twelveswood, the process of ageing slowing to a crawl as they approach puberty. Naturally attuned to the whispers of the forest, these horned, childlike beings serve as a living link between man and elemental. The Padjal have a long history as the region's healers and protectors and as the chosen of the elementals are sanctioned in the use of White Magic.

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The more playable races the better, so +1.

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Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X

The more playable races the better, so +1.

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Thank you for your support.

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For those of you who want viera, hit that like button on my original post to show your support.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

i will not bet is not possible for the 5.0, return to ivalice can maybe have a link with dalmasca, the place in orthard conquer by the empire a long time ago... for the one don't knowing it, dalmasca is too the name of a place in ivalice. since we go to orthard, maybe we will discover that this place (that was wiped in FF12 by an ultima bomb) was maybe transfer to hyadelin and will explain why return to ivalice name for the 24 raid. introducing maybe race of ivalice... then maybe viera.

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I don't recall Dalmasca being wiped out by an 'Ultima bomb' in FFXII.

ahhh true, my mistake is another town that was wiped, it's nabradia if i'm not wrong

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I don't recall Dalmasca being wiped out by an 'Ultima bomb' in FFXII.

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Had a close call with Bahamut though.

Can we have tall and fierce looking Viera women, and smaller, plumper cute bunny boys.

I really am tired with the current trend the game has when it comes to gender. You know, the typical moe-blob females with their manly muscly male counterparts.

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Originally Posted by Senn

After reading this https://www.finder.com.au/final-fant...ormblood-viera

I'm all like

https://31.media.tumblr.com/c97002e0...PJR1r6xvto.gif


There was a discussion about this interview on reddit as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._for_viera_in/

I'm interested in seeing the rest of the interview.

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Yoshida is always full of excuses. Viera doesn't even wear shoes in FFXII.

http://imgur.com/a/aPEh7

Just add a shoe heel and Voilá!

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Originally Posted by MOthe

Yoshida is always full of excuses.

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He probably just doesn't want to add Viera. lul

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Originally Posted by Delphinium_Consolida

Can we have tall and fierce looking Viera women, and smaller, plumper cute bunny boys.

I really am tired with the current trend the game has when it comes to gender. You know, the typical moe-blob females with their manly muscly male counterparts.

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Well that is the norm between males and females when it comes to mammals

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Originally Posted by Senn

After reading this https://www.finder.com.au/final-fant...ormblood-viera

There was a discussion about this interview on reddit as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._for_viera_in/

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What's being implied, and not an excuse as some are saying in this thread, is that if they do implement the Viera, they won't be the high heeled variant some of you are hoping for. The high heeled variant would need every piece of foot gear to be specially made for them, not the up-scaling or down-scaling gear gets between Roegadyn and Lalafell. Even from talks about the butt-slider and all, Yoshida made it very transparent that they do not want to make any custom gear. They want to leave it to stretch, upscale or downscale. That being said, because the race would probably have to be re-imagined before they can be put in, you will never receive the Viera because the Viera already have a set look about them.

Also, still annoyed people still call it Viera race concept art featured in Heavensward. No, it was Au Ra concept artwork sporting the Viera design. Like I've mentioned before when it comes to that particular art and concept, we were getting Au Ra either way, the design was what was being decided on. Au Ra just had a chance of being leporid. (From the first Heavensward artbook.)

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Also, still annoyed people still call it Viera race concept art featured in Heavensward. No, it was Au Ra concept artwork sporting the Viera design. Like I've mentioned before when it comes to that particular art and concept, we were getting Au Ra either way, the design was what was being decided on. Au Ra just had a chance of being leporid. (From the first Heavensward artbook.)

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Um, no. It's listed under Au'ra concept art because they created it on the side for fun during the Au'ra concept art process. The actual concept itself had nothing to do with Au'ra though. Those are 100% legit 14 crafted concept Viera race, created for fun, knowing it wasn't being put in the game in the near future. More than likely done because of the feedback they had up to that point with the fanbase desiring Viera and the artists thought they'd take a shot at a few concepts.

It's gonna happen. Just you wait. It'll take another couple of years, but I could bet a month of salary on it.

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Originally Posted by Khaoticsuccubus

Um, no. It's listed under Au'ra concept art because they created it on the side for fun during the Au'ra concept art process. The actual concept itself had nothing to do with Au'ra though. Those are 100% legit 14 crafted concept Viera race, created for fun, knowing it wasn't being put in the game in the near future. More than likely done because of the feedback they had up to that point with the fanbase desiring Viera and the artists thought they'd take a shot at a few concepts.

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Considering it was being showcased with all of the other Au Ra concepts and labelled in the art book as such (viera, demonic/draconic with male and female even split up, viangaa, and beastly). While being in the artbook for Heavensward, which becomes quite silly if they, as you put it, knew it wasn't being put in the game in the near future.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Considering it was being showcased with all of the other Au Ra concepts and labelled in the art book as such (viera, demonic/draconic (male and female even split up), viangaa, and beastly.

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That artwork was introduced at a livestream at Nico Nico Tokaigi in 2015, and esplicitly defined as concept art for a possible Viera race that was actually considered for Heavensward, but set aside in favor of the Au Ra.

This is the original art. It doesn't mention the Au Ra at all, and the Japanese text also only mentions the Viera.

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_21_25.jpg

did you note something interesting in the interview?

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Not to bug you, Yoshida. But I'm a big fan of FFXII's Fran. The Viera race was considered for Heavensward but never included and Stormblood marks the second time they've been left out. Should I give up hope?

I don't think you should give up hope. I mean we're hoping Final Fantasy XIV will have a very long lifespan. With that being said. Fran and the Viera race have a very high heel and trying to depict that in Final Fantasy XIV is challenging. They won't be able to wear any shoes that exist in Eorzea right now.

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Eorzea is only one continent of this world... why talk of the continent instead of the world? especially since stormblood make us move far from Eorzea, going to orthard.

but that not the most important, if it was something that will never happend or are not sure to make it happend... he will have not said : "I don't think you should give up hope."
it's too much like something that can be interpreted like a confirmation by the community is far too dangerous to say this without be sure to have something behind. because this sole sentence have give a lot of hope, and people will want it more.. that kinda weird. since generally when he is not sure if something can happend... he don't talk of it.

i'm like the other it's not IF the viera will come, but WHEN the viera will come at this point, this sole comment of his part have get too much hope for not be backed a bit by him.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

That artwork was introduced at a livestream at Nico Nico Tokaigi in 2015, and esplicitly defined as concept art for a possible Viera race that was actually considered for Heavensward, but set aside in favor of the Au Ra.

This is the original art. It doesn't mention the Au Ra at all, and the Japanese text also only mentions the Viera.

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_21_25.jpg

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Yes. That had been the second time the artwork had been shown. It had also been shown in Las Vegas 2014 with the rest of the Au Ra art when the race was first revealed, and they talked on how they went about deciding which look to go with. This was also when people largely believed the joke/ misinformation that the au ra were also some form of voidsent, like the succubi. 'Cause people like to report on things that will get high attention, but often omit context. (Like Yoshia's poll on a new race that mentioned Viera is a great example. He never asked if players wanted Viera, yet people will say that he did.)

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Yes. That had been the second time the artwork had been shown. It had also been shown in Las Vegas 2014 with the rest of the Au Ra art when the race was first revealed, and they talked on how they went about deciding which look to go with. This was also when people largely believed the joke/ misinformation that the au ra were also some form of voidsent, like the succubi. 'Cause people like to report on things that will get high attention, but often omit context. (Like Yoshia's poll on a new race that mentioned Viera is a great example. He never asked if players wanted Viera, yet people will say that he did.)

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Uh no. This one wasn't shown in Las Vegas. The Viera concept was shown for the first time in Chiba in 2015.

But regardless of menial details and timing, it was explicitly presented as a preliminary concept for a viera race, not for the au ra.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

This is the original art. It doesn't mention the Au Ra at all, and the Japanese text also only mentions the Viera.

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Also, I had missed that part of the comment.

http://i.imgur.com/3KUDwSP.jpg With characters now.
http://i.imgur.com/kLpOgTI.jpg First image under that header; oh look, it's the same image you posted, minus F.A.T.E in Tokyo.
http://i.imgur.com/gBLEQkx.jpg Second series of images.

Sorry for the shit quality 'cause of using a phone.

However, I will relent on the issue of the FanFest videos simply because I really don't want to sift through hours of streams that happened 3 years ago.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Also, I had missed that part of the comment.

http://i.imgur.com/3KUDwSP.jpg With characters now.
http://i.imgur.com/kLpOgTI.jpg First image under that header; oh look, it's the same image you posted, minus F.A.T.E in Tokyo.
http://i.imgur.com/gBLEQkx.jpg Second series of images.

Sorry for the shit quality 'cause of using a phone.

However, I will relent on the issue of the FanFest videos simply because I really don't want to sift through hours of streams that happened 3 years ago.

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Again. That just means that they were part of the process of designing the new race, after which Au Ra was selected. It was explicitly presented as a concept for a Viera race (two concepts actually, since there was a tall one and a small one). It is unrelated to the Au Ra in any way other than the fact that they competed for the same slot.

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Originally Posted by Greedalox

Believe me when I say that there's many threads identical to this ;_;

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I want this but would be hard between Miqote, Au Ra and Viera to play as! Q____Q

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Considering it was being showcased with all of the other Au Ra concepts and labelled in the art book as such (viera, demonic/draconic with male and female even split up, viangaa, and beastly). While being in the artbook for Heavensward, which becomes quite silly if they, as you put it, knew it wasn't being put in the game in the near future.

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Oh dear, look it's just being lumped under the category after the fact. For that matter the Viangaa you mentioned was an april fool's joke they made around that time. It came about because of the requests for Viera and YoshiP's desire for something more reptilian/beastly... so they combined them as a joke.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Yes. That had been the second time the artwork had been shown. It had also been shown in Las Vegas 2014 with the rest of the Au Ra art when the race was first revealed, and they talked on how they went about deciding which look to go with. This was also when people largely believed the joke/ misinformation that the au ra were also some form of voidsent, like the succubi. 'Cause people like to report on things that will get high attention, but often omit context. (Like Yoshia's poll on a new race that mentioned Viera is a great example. He never asked if players wanted Viera, yet people will say that he did.)

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Context huh.

Iirc, people originally speculated back then that Au'ra had more to do with dragons given where the plot seemed to be leading (Shiva, Ishgard, HW dragons theme) however, from what I remember it was YoshiP who came out and said they weren't related to dragons and closer related to voidsent.

I still support this or ANY new race being added. It really doesnt have to be Viera in my opinion, but if thats what the majority wants then I'm okay with that.
I love seeing new jobs/races/character customization added to MMO's. Keeps them feeling fresh and new and allows player more uniqueness and variety.

I'd be in love with playable child versions of the existing races also (who doesnt love Khloe). To an extent they already exist, but creating all new animations for 5 or 6 races would be one hell of an undertaking....

On a side not.. could Hyur get horns to turn them into Padjal? :)

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Originally Posted by Vespar

I'd be in love with playable child versions of the existing races also (who doesnt love Khloe). To an extent they already exist, but creating all new animations for 5 or 6 races would be one hell of an undertaking....

On a side not.. could Hyur get horns to turn them into Padjal? :)

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They will never add playable children or playable child-like races in FFXIV. It is a PR and legal nightmare to deal with due to people being creeps and laws regarding violent depections against children.

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Originally Posted by Tsumdere

They will never add playable children or playable child-like races in FFXIV. It is a PR and legal nightmare to deal with due to people being creeps and laws regarding violent depections against children.

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Unfortunately true and I think they mentioned as such a while back. Most you can get away with is a childlike race ala Lalafel, Lyn in BnS, or Elin in Tera and even then the latter 2 cause some controvery given Korean MMO's pervy nature lol.

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Originally Posted by Elkanah

I want this but would be hard between Miqote, Au Ra and Viera to play as! Q____Q

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That problem is actually very easy to solve. You can play one race for couple of months, fantasia to the next one the next couple of months, and on and on.

Or could take it to an extreme and fantasia to viera one year, miqo'te the next year, and au ra the next year

That's a good way to go about it.

I'll never leave my roegadyn but I will make a viera alt and she will be as amazing as my roegadyn :D

@Ghastly

I like my character as it is too, but I also wish to have a Viera as my retainer for my house :)

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Originally Posted by Delphinium_Consolida

Can we have tall and fierce looking Viera women, and smaller, plumper cute bunny boys.

I really am tired with the current trend the game has when it comes to gender. You know, the typical moe-blob females with their manly muscly male counterparts.

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I'd be ok with taller females and smaller males.

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Originally Posted by Vespar

On a side not.. could Hyur get horns to turn them into Padjal? :)

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Because of lore reasons (that I posted a few pages back) Padjal can never be playable.

I would love Viera being part of ARR have they tree houses locate in some sort of deep forest. It will play out well in XIV

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

Well that is the norm between males and females when it comes to mammals

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Oh, heavens forfend the the thought of having something that's not bound by the laws of our reality. James, please.

I feel some/most Viera fans probably wouldn't like it if the Viera males of both clans were cute and small in size... people didn't like it with Au Ra, repeating that (but with males) isn't going to suddenly make it alright.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I feel some/most Viera fans probably wouldn't like it if the Viera males of both clans were cute and small in size... people didn't like it with Au Ra, repeating that (but with males) isn't going to suddenly make it alright.

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Ideally, I want both clans; tall males and females / short males and females. If we can't have both tall and short clans, I don't mind having a tall female viera, and a short male viera.

https://i.gyazo.com/f30c674563182f48...7a6cbf93e7.png


I also don't mind if we end up getting short males and females only. Or tall males and females only. But like I said, I'd prefer having both clans.

I think a height difference like this would be ok.
https://i.gyazo.com/30cee53ee726fb0d...b96358478e.png