Lack of End Game Content

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Originally Posted by Vercinotrix

Though I guess for people with good statics, story skippers, and twitch streamers that can do things instantly whenever they please you sure will run out of end-game content fast. Most people aren't like that, I'm not and I play for 18+ hours a day.

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thats the most turbo casual entitled post i ever seen

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

thats the most turbo casual entitled post i ever seen

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How is it entitlement to enjoy what I have before me?

Minus the sentence I was going to add and forgot about; People who skip the story (took me 5 days with sleep, watching every cutscene and never wiping in MSQ instances), people who have a really good static raid team and clear content with minimal wipes, and twitch streamers who have people doing everything they can to help them clear content run out of stuff to do fast.

Where in the actual world is the entitlement?

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Originally Posted by Hawklaser

People complain about a lot of things they find difficult to overcome be it dungeons in MMOs, other classes/characters in PvP settings. Sometimes it is founded on legitimate ground such as an equal level World of Warcraft Rogue being able stun lock and kill a Warrior or Paladin from full HP in PvP as an example, others are were just bad players not understanding how something worked or thought was too hard in the case of dungeons.

When people refer to Coil in the context of FFXIV, they are usually referring to the Binding Coil of Bahamut.

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Thank you for replying , I never experienced Bahamut due to when I started FF14.

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Originally Posted by Vercinotrix

How is it entitlement to enjoy what I have before me?

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And now you are strawmanning, i didnt quote or say anything about what you enjoy.
You assuming what the "majority" wants and it being tailored arround that is entitled.
Its like i would say "well movies should only last 40 minutes and they should not be releasing that many because i have to watch so many!"

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Originally Posted by Selova

...The OP is obviously specifically talking about challenging end-game content and that there is too little of it.


I keep seeing people being really passive aggressive in their responses completely misunderstanding that the OP is not talking about all content....

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Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

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casual doesnt mean bad, you dont to get invent new definition, thats the silly part here

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

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this has nothing to do with what you quoted

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

And now you are strawmanning, i didnt quote or say anything about what you enjoy.
You assuming what the "majority" wants and it being tailored arround that is.
Its like i would say "well movies should only last 40 minutes and they should not be releasing that many because i have to watch so many!"

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I didn't say anything about how something should be. I stated I liked the current formula and why I did, maybe try not skim-reading through posts before you reply.

And strawmanning? You quoted a particular part of my post and I asked a legitimate question about what in the actual hell you were referring to.

The only thing I assumed was there's a lot of people in similar shoes as mine, people who haven't run out of content because of various reasons. And I'd more than likely be correct considering majority of this thread is people saying they haven't run out of things to do.

Making that assumption isn't entitlement, if anything at most it could just be a biased estimate or assumption. But that's all it would be, there isn't anything entitled about my post. If anything the OP and the ones of his mind are the ones entitled, but even then I loathe to even assign that label since wanting something doesn't always equal entitlement. Stomping your feet, demanding it through strong arm methods like reputation attacks, petitions, and government force are.

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Originally Posted by Kaitoo

sounds like soundproof plan to fuck up the raiding scene

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Ok, humour me. In which way would that "fuck up the raiding scene"?

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Maybe because talking of lacking of high-level-skill-savage content for a game that is tailored to casual gaming by design, is quite silly.

Savage content is here to let the ones who wants challenge something to do, but they are not the main target population of the game as a whole. I think this is pretty obvious but maybe someone still don't realize.

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The hardcore crowd isn't the main target population of any MMORPG and that's besides the point. They specifically designed Ultimate for those players and made Savage slightly more tame to make it more accessible.
So they are clearly still thinking of new ways to please players craving more varied & challenging endgame content; which is something Yoshi has repeatedly made clear.

Also, good on you for actually proving Selova's point - the passive-aggressive responses of some of the "casual crowd" are frankly quite ludicrous.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

I definitely feel like this game never really has enough content, especially if progression raiding doesn't interest you. That's why I unsub for roughly half of every expansion. Never really had that issue with WoW. If I unsubbed from WoW, it's because I was bored of WoW, not because I ran out of things I could do. It would be nice if there were more things to do, but I'm not going to hold my breath. They seem pretty content with their formula. All of the random nonsense that got added in ARR seems to have been a fluke.

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Wow, talking about not enough endgame content and then coming up with WoW as an example which always goes into a one-year content drought before the next expansion hits.

Of course, you can't run out of things to do in WoW simply because they add a shit ton of time gating stuff, for example farming azerite to max level is completely pointless because everything you boringly grinded for 6 months takes you like a week after catchup mechanics come into place.

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Originally Posted by aeoncs

Ok, humour me. In which way would that "fuck up the raiding scene"?

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fucking with raid sizes and content fucks up always the raid scene, known for 2 decades across all mmoos
Atleast i assume that you meant by "harder 24 mans" content mainly made for premade gorups