Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Kallistra

You can still DPS during those trash pulls. I have no issues with my healers not being able to pump out some DPS during big pulls.

(edit)Again, not something I would put a pug healer through. I was simply pointing out that it is indeed possible to pull the maximum you can pull in these dungeons since Kokoru asked if that was possible.

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I've done this with one excellent df tank who did it without asking but was great with enmity and cd management and it was an awesome run! I said out loud in party chat that it was some awesome WAR play and gave the tank my commendation! And yes, managed to keep DPSing even then. :)

Edit: However, for this to succeed, good DPS players are vital, you will run out of resources fast if nothing is dying...

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Originally Posted by Taika

However, for this to succeed, good DPS players are vital, you will run out of resources fast if nothing is dying...

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Makes me think of the run I did last night of Temple of the Fist (I'm really starting to dislike running this place). It took 45 minutes. Swear to god. The tank pulled big and I dpsed when I could but nothing was dying. Our DPS (SAM and DRG) were soooo weak. The second boss was he'll, we almost wiped because I was starting to feel defeated after the third time he uses the Sun/Moon markers...

I was in Shiva HARD MODE that wiped.

I'm just running roulettes trying to get AST to 70. Tank had Shiva pointing the wrong way and she killed me and two other dps with a cleave. White mage didn't raise anyone. I made the mistake thinking that the red mage could res and brought it up in the chat. I don't have red mage unlocked I've been focused on leveling gatherers and crafters after I finished the MSQ on scholar. They start cursing me out in the chat for just not knowing when veraise unlocks when the the tank was spinning the boss to the party and the white mage wasn't raising anyone when their mp was 80% full.

I just left.

So is O3 just a "bring out your dummies" fight? Because two weeks in a row, we get players who I swear are actively using mechanics to kill the raid. During Spellblade: Holy, where you have the stack AoE and the isolation AoEs, we had people who had to be isolated stacking with the rest of the group. After two wipes to this exact mechanic, when we called out the people doing this, we got absolutely no response.

Is it just me? Am I like a magnet and these types of players are the negative to my positive? Is it just karma for playing MCH?

Went into a Susano Ex Farm PT, The AST who would not help me heal just DPS the whole fight....I looked him up....He was wearing all Direct Hit VI Materia. uhm. okay. lol He wasn't pulling that much but when I got stunned by lightning he wouldnt heal me, or tank and tank died. Rip. Ast left pt we didnt have to kick him but still. I have never seen an AST with Direct Hit fully melded in his/her 320 gear....................................................................

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Went into a Susano Ex Farm PT, The AST who would not help me heal just DPS the whole fight....I looked him up....He was wearing all Direct Hit VI Materia. uhm. okay. lol He wasn't pulling that much but when I got stunned by lightning he wouldnt heal me, or tank and tank died. Rip. Ast left pt we didnt have to kick him but still. I have never seen an AST with Direct Hit fully melded in his/her 320 gear....................................................................

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He wasn't a healer. He was a DPS who wanted a guaranteed, quick spot.

One of the worst groups I've ever experienced. Susano HM. DPS can't avoid simple AoEs, DPS aren't even stacking. Healers bleeding their MPs dry trying to heal and raise them. Of course, I do my best to help them out. Use mana shifts. Raise the damn DPS who are better off dead. Seriously, how hard is it to move out a Raisen Kyoko or whatever it was called again.

Finally clear after two wipes.

No comms.

...Maybe a little salty. More salty about the bad group.

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Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

He wasn't a healer. He was a DPS who wanted a guaranteed, quick spot.

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Still tho why waste Direct Hit 6 gear in Healer gear...and in Deltascape 320 gear such as belt head...ring...320 susanno weapon lol...

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

Still tho why waste Direct Hit 6 gear in Healer gear...and in Deltascape 320 gear such as belt head...ring...320 susanno weapon lol...

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Because, again, DPS who wanted an insta-spot. They're the type of player who pushes for MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE from everyone. They're, in all honesty, a blight on the entire community. God forbid those types of players actually try to do their jobs.

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Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

Because, again, DPS who wanted an insta-spot. They're the type of player who pushes for MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE from everyone. They're, in all honesty, a blight on the entire community. God forbid those types of players actually try to do their jobs.

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Ahh thanks. o/ I just, my first time seeing something so horrid in my life. lol

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Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

Because, again, DPS who wanted an insta-spot. They're the type of player who pushes for MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE from everyone. They're, in all honesty, a blight on the entire community. God forbid those types of players actually try to do their jobs.

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Pushing more damage is fine, great even, just obviously do your main job first. It's too bad one bad player if helping some people push their agenda for mediocrity but hey, don't let me interrupt the circle jerk.

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Originally Posted by SlogDog

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It wasn't the case for this person though. When I died, he left me dead. We did not have a raise in the PT. When the Tank died he wouldnt even bother raising him he still kept DPSing when OT picked it up. It was almost like he didn't care to do anything.
Edit: To explain what happened. messy.

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Originally Posted by SlogDog

Pushing more damage is fine, great even, just obviously do your main job first. It's too bad one bad player if helping some people push their agenda for mediocrity but hey, don't let me interrupt the circle jerk.

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Oh, please, don't get me wrong. When I heal, I'll try to throw out some DoTs or Malefics if I can afford to use the GCDs. When I'm off-tanking or am not actively taking damage, I'll switch to Sword Oath to increase my damage output. More damage going out is a good thing. That's not the problem. It's pricks like this shmuck who meld DH and expect to be able to spam Stone/Malefic/Ruin and not heal at all, or who kick the healer for not doing enough damage, or who kick tanks for not stance-dancing for maximum damage output (this has actually happened to me as I was leveling). It's the ones who worship a only-DPS-matters-forever meta when really, that only applies to the highest echelons of players in the absolute hardest content.

But please, tell me again how I'm pushing an agenda for mediocrity for decrying bad players and a toxic mentality.

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Originally Posted by SlogDog

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The ast that was DPS was pulling 1k dps for all his non healing. So I don't know why your so agressive about this. (The other guy was just reassuring me that it was the AST at fault. I did not mean to trigger anyone. sry.)

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Originally Posted by Mirakumi

The ast that was DPS was pulling 1k dps for all his non healing. So I don't know why your so agressive about this. (The other guy was just reassuring me that it was the AST at fault. I did not mean to trigger anyone. sry.)

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You didn't do anything wrong, you're fine. I'm sorry you had such a crappy healer.

Someone is certainly full of themselves...

Wow... I don't normally like to respond but this is just beyond ridiculous.

@SlogDog

So throwing out combust and occasional malefic "just isn't good enough" and you'd kick healers who only do minimal DPS, but when you play as a healer you don't want to DPS because it's not your responsibility? Given your attitude, you getting kicked from that party was well-warranted IMO. You even had the audacity to call our fellow players "suckers" when it's quite obvious who the real sucker is. Also, how rich for you to call our community toxic and "that rude tank", when you're essentially the pinnacle of these 2 things. I love chatting just as much as the next guy, but there's time for everything. Going in to a high-end dungeon, as a healer I might add, will require your attention. How are they rude but not you, when you're busy talking about fashion on different chat? Although it's absolutely sweet and nice of them when tanks ask for permission for big-pull, they are not required to do so and so get off your high horse.

It boggles the mind that people like you exist. You're such an awful person that I wish for you to step on legos.

Huh...

So anyway, Susano EX party, last one for the day (because tenth totem and leader was tired) and in one run, both healers get KO'd by the water AoE's (I think). So as a RDM, I raise them both, pop Lucid because MP and go back to being the DPS I am meant to be. Less than 3 seconds later, both healers die again (they raised into a stack mechanic and instantly did an action, disabling red immunity). So I raise one healer, get killed by Susano and then tell them to healer LB3... and then get killed again because no one knew Susano was going to cleave the group with the tank buster (which was on the healer).

On the plus side, I now have both current EX Primal doggos. Yay me!

Go into O4 for a shaft/shot at the pet as WAR, other tank is a DRK. DRK wordlessly puts on grit and charges in, so I go deliverance, etc etc.
They proceed to use zero mitigation, and die on the 2nd Thunder III, so I provoke, defiance and take over. DRK gets raised, does not turn Darkside on, never attempts to tank swap, still says nothing for the rest of the run.
I now know that I can tank Exdeath without tank swaps, and Thunder III's debuff doesn't stack past 2. And it hits for 50k through Inner Beast. Some less than manly noises came out of my mouth when that shit connected.

At least I got my shaft.

I haven't even tried Susano or Lakshimi EX yet, too scared of toxicity.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

I haven't even tried Susano or Lakshimi EX yet, too scared of toxicity.

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Don't let other people being buttwads stop you from trying content you're interested in! If someone starts in with some jerky comments, blacklist them! Lakshmi and Susano EX are a lot of fun. :D

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

I haven't even tried Susano or Lakshimi EX yet, too scared of toxicity.

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Don't worry! Most groups I have joined so far are very friendly and motivated. It all depends on the groups you decide to join. I'd rather join a "Let's clear it together! be patient" than a "No noobs, 1 fail means you get kicked instantly".

I have a story that happened a couple of days ago.

So, I go into O4 and got a party with some people who's classes escape me at the moment, and a BLM. We start the fight and managed to take the boss all the way down to 42%ish health. Then, EVERYTHING that could go wrong, did. Both the MT and the OT got punted off the arena due to the OT being behind the boss and the OT being at JUST the right spot at his side while the boss was using his Raid-wide push AOE, one of the Healer DC's, and 2 DPS get pushed into some Black-holes and die. It was just me, a SAM at the time, the BLM, and I believe a AST left who did the mechanics correctly, and we didn't have enough LB for the Healer to use LB 3. We proceed to die, and before we could try and wait for the DC'd Healer to come back so we could try again, everyone but me and the BLM leave. Thankfully, we were able to get a full party again and proceed to destroy the boss without much issues.

Guys I have a confession, I got annoyed by people who are "less competent" than the average player base and on rare occasion even becoming toxic.

Well, on my defense, this is because if they are not doing their job's role competently, it takes longer for a dungeon to complete and holy f , i don't have all the time in the world to play the game. The "do more work because the other useless" was actually fine for me. I like being a carry :)

There was this one time when I was in DR Main Scenario and there was a new player and i had to go to work in 30 minutes. I thought, no problem, DR Main should be done in 20 minutes average. The queue popped immediately (I was with a healer friend). We got in to the last boss fight and as you might have guessed, the new guy don't skip the cutscenes. I mean that's fine, but then apparently the tanks wanted to wait for the new guy. I asked them kindly to pull without the new guy, he refused. Okay, by this time I was praying that I would have enough time. OH BOY, cutscenes are very long in that dungeon. I basically had 5-10 minutes left when we reached ultima thanks to all the waiting. If the tanks refused to pull, I would pull it. Normal tanks would try to grab the agro, but these guys just run around and even ask the others to just dodge and run around with them without doing anything. Oh boy, it's on. Me and my friend basically 2-manned the Ultima first phase and guess what? I got kicked soon after that. Maybe it was my fault? But I was desperate to finish it T^T.

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Originally Posted by chrissun

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In that case it was a majority rules situation. I mean it sucks, but if the majority decided to kick you over it, then it was a case of the majority were OK with the new guy watching the cutscenes. Does it suck? Yes. Would I have kicked you? Probably not.

Well, i have 2 horror stories to share. Both happened today one after another.

The first one happened in Snowcloak, the healer was the laziest one i have seen since the start of ARR. He was an Astrologian, everything seemed fine, he was using the cards and healing until i noticed a certain pattern in his spells... In short, he was using Essential Dignity as if it was the only cure aviable, guess when did i notice? When i had to use potions to heal myself up because he just wanted to keep staring as us. I swear, he did not use any other spell -healing OR offensive one-. Nobody died, but even in a thought time with Fenrir when the ninja got hit pretty hard he refused to do anything else. He just awaited until he could cast Essential dignity again.

The second one was in Stone Vigil (Hard).

Now, i have said this more than once. I am happy to help new people, giving tips, explaining... I dont care if the run takes 10 more minutes to complete. In this case it was a Red Mage at level 52. At first i was not aware of it as i was bussy taking hits from the mobs, but then i noticed a strange pattern in the casting of the RDM. He was mostly standing still, then he would start casting Veraero/Verthunder to initiate his combo... Except there was no spell afterwards. The only time i saw him using it was with Scatter. He used his melee combo, yeah, even withouth black/white mana to share on it. I was just like "the hell?", so i stopped a bit and asked him if he wanted information about the class. He answered "Yes" to me, so i proceeded to explain it... Until he tells me he does not know how to speak english, only german. Now, because i wanted to be helpful i proceeded to use a traslator to tell him all i was typing at the moment. He answered later that he was new to the game, he was sorry... He had Summoner to 70, so i thought "Maybe he just needs time to adjust". Well, when everything was explained and seemed in order we proceeded to the turtle boss with the cannons. He made the same mistakes all over again and did not touch Jolt for anything, i only saw one verfire in the whole run, but the worst came at that boss. He just attacked with his weapon, we explained to him to use the cannos but he just stood there.

We died.

The healer left, and we proceeded to dismiss him from duty.

I still think it was someone trolling us...

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Originally Posted by KalinOrthos

Because, again, DPS who wanted an insta-spot. They're the type of player who pushes for MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE MORE DAMAGE from everyone. They're, in all honesty, a blight on the entire community. God forbid those types of players actually try to do their jobs.

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I had this in Gubal Library of all things. I queued as PLD, and we can't get past the first boss, BLM keeps dying to mechanics, healer only queued as such and doesn't really know how to heal this content, and the other DPS was a sprout IIRC. Three attempts, three times I'm the only one getting past the first wave of the book. After the third time, Vote abandon.

To note, the healer kept casting Medica II on trash, that was a sign to me that this was going to be bad. Trash is not a raid fight, especially not 3 enemies at a time.

I re-queue the roulette again as PLD, and this time get three mentors. It goes fine, albeit not super-fast.

I think this is the first time I had an altogether weird run.

I queued up to my leveling roulette with my AST and got Doma Castle. We had a BRD, a NIN and a DRK.
I then noticed that the DRK was trying to do the famous 1st room pull loosing pretty much all her health before she could even get to the place. We wiped once, I couldn't help but blame myself for that because I was healing and I thought I wasn't being good enough to keep her safe and sound.
Next big pull: BRD got aggro after a couple of AoEs and died, everything went downhill from that and another wipe.
We also had a bit of trouble during the first boss, and during the second pull after the boss she tried another big one. BRD used Palisade to help the tank a bit and ended up getting aggro. The DRK then stopped and the BRD was getting killed. I healed her up, but then I had the aggro on the mobs. NIN and BRD tried to help, everybody had aggro on the mobs but the DRK that wasn't moving at all, and after the third wipe she said: "You know, I follow a policy that you pull it, you tank it."
Everybody was like "What???????".

Then I decided to examine her to see what was going on, and she was running Doma Castle with the Shisui set on the left and full strenght 270 Heavensward accessories on the right.

I know some tanks are doing that right side with strenght right now for whatever reason, but if it's for aggro keeping... It was just a BRD and a NIN.
At some point me and other dps just gave up, I told them I would set up a party finder to make up for the wasted time and then they both joined me again for another run that went incredibly smooth, with another DRK, and a very polite one.

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Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly

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So lemme get this straight. Bard gets aggro on untagged enemies by putting Palisade on the tank. Tank whines at him for it? Really? Wow. A tank that doesn't understand why they lose aggro when they do has no right to be a tank, much less use STR gear on one even if it is better.

Anyway here's my DF story.

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I wouldn't be as fazed by this if the adventurer in need wasn't tank.

I was finishing up SAM to 60 so I could get into Stormblood content (though that's on hold until my new headphones arrive, since my last pair just broke sigh). Gubal Library normal.

50 minute run because of a new SCH and BLM. we wiped on the demon book the first time it did its main mechanic since they both died to it, and it was then that they decided to admit they were new (which is my personal pet peeve). Still, I explained what to do, and we proceeded to plod through the dungeon. Another wipe on trash leading up to the second boss because the tank accidentally pulled a second group, and a final wipe on the last boss because the healer stood in one of the ring AoEs from the boss with 2 vuln up stacks and got 1 shot.

We did get through it in the end, and the new people did listen. But we could have saved a good chunk of time if they'd said something in the first place. Please don't be afraid to speak up if you're new and don't know the mechanics, because people will be much more likely be helpful if you say something before you cause the group to wipe due to a lack of knowledge. Most of us don't bite. :(

So I'm going to be talking about myself here. I got my monk to 70 and started doing the expert dungeons. I get to temple a few mins ago and I sucked HARD. 90% of the fail in this run was me being new and not knowing what was up. But that's on me and I'll practice to do better. The last fight tho was completely lag fest. I was pressing skills and nothing was going off. I hate myself for having that happened and must have said sorry a million times that whole run. Easily my worst experience yet in the game. Everyone in the party was awesome and put up with my not knowinginess and I love all of you that were in there. I swear to god that last fight was lag and I feel horrible. Also.. I hate the second boss.... so many reflects and crap. T.T I am not happy with my performance in there at all. T.T

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Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly

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There's gotta be something in the water. Was he tanking in Grit? Because it would have been stupid easy to pull off of him if he never turned on Grit because LOLTANKDPS. I just had a run with a Warrior who never left Deliverance, and after I managed to pull off of him without Diversion (it was always on cooldown) on the first two bosses, he gad the gall to call me bad.

1. Be BLM.
2. Queue for Expert Roulette to get dropped into Ala Mhigo.
3. Have the AST start feeding the RDM both single-target Arrows and Balances, while all you get are castoffs from Expanded cards.
4. Consistently do more DPS than the RDM (who has 1k more HP than you) throughout the entire run anyway.
5. Have the WAR pull everything from just after the first boss to the dogs in one giant pack.
6. Demolish that entire pack with BLM AoEs.
7. Lose rolls on everything to the RDM.
8. Deal with the WAR trying to troll you with Shirk.
9. Finish the entire dungeon in roughly 20 minutes.
10. Get no comms.
11. Don't be surprised when you find out they were all from Gilgamesh.

Just another day in the life of a BLM.

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Originally Posted by Mysterysword

1. Be BLM.
2. Queue for Expert Roulette to get dropped into Ala Mhigo.
3. Have the AST start feeding the RDM both single-target Arrows and Balances, while all you get are castoffs from Expanded cards.
4. Consistently do more DPS than the RDM (who has 1k more HP than you) throughout the entire run anyway.
5. Have the WAR pull everything from just after the first boss to the dogs in one giant pack.
6. Demolish that entire pack with BLM AoEs.
7. Lose rolls on everything to the RDM.
8. Deal with the WAR trying to troll you with Shirk.
9. Finish the entire dungeon in roughly 20 minutes.
10. Get no comms.
11. Don't be surprised when you find out they were all from Gilgamesh.

Just another day in the life of a BLM.

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Not everyone from Greg is that way though. You can't lump a whole server just because a few assholes ruin it for you. It's like saying everyone from Balmung is into ERP which clearly isn't true. Every sever has their jerks.

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Originally Posted by Ferrasper

Not everyone from Greg is that way though. You can't lump a whole server just because a few assholes ruin it for you. It's like saying everyone from Balmung is into ERP which clearly isn't true. Every sever has their jerks.

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Oh, I don't think the entire server is like that. I'm just not surprised when I run into assholes and they turn out to be from Gilgamesh or Balmung. Just like how I wasn't surprised when the world balancing initiatives turned my nice and quiet server into a cesspit of attention whores.

I shouldn't play when I'm tired and cranky!

So did a run of Castrum Abania earlier...

Tank DCs right before first boss, kick, get new tank a few minutes later. No biggie. Tank was brand new but everyone was fine with that.

First boss goes fine. I probably should have explained it before going in but I just got off working 10 days straight so I'm pretty tired. We get through the boss without any issues (still shocks me how much damage that boss does though).

Everything goes to poo on the second boss. It is the easiest boss in the dungeon, as long of people do the mechanics. Again I didn't think to explain the mechanics, but the PLD asked about the elements thing, and we explained it briefly... Well The SAM and I go to cover a tower and botht the PLD and NIN are right next to the third one. Since the PLD was very new, and didn't know the details of the fight I assumed if she didn't move the NIN would... nope. We get hit by the aoe.

Great.. I heal us up and we go back to DPSing.. and then the next set of towers pop up. SAM and I again move to two separate towers. NIN and PLD do not move. After we get hit again both me and the SAM as the NIN if they could take a tower. They complain and say "we don't need both DPS taking one"... Yeah, okay, but we didn't explain the situation to the newbie so like do your part? If no one is going to bother helping someone who doesn't know what they are doing don't except to not do the work. Is it really worth having high deeps if you're just going to get everyone killed?

Yeah, third set of towers pop and we wipe. SAM leaves due to lack of cooperation from the NIN. I don't blame them. I was thinking of leaving but I wanted my Cluster from being in need, and I felt bad for the tank. DPS are easily replaced anyway so it wasn't that big of a deal...

NIN complains that SAM left and that it was "only one wipe". Yeah I couldn't keep quiet "Yeah, a wipe that could have easily been avoided". They didn't reply to that, instead they complimented themselves for doing higher DPS than a higher ilvl SAM, on NIN. I again replied...
Me: Yeah you did higher DPS than the SAM who was doing mechanics. Go figure.
NIN: I outdpsed them on the first boss too

This is completely false. I had ACT up (had just redownloaded it and it was open from much earlier today) so I could see the numbers. Didn't argue with them though as it was pointless and didn't want to bring up that I had a parser running.

It was a weird and frustrating run. Just.. if you can do something why would you NOT do it? Why do you expect someone else to do it? I know we could have easily asked the PLD to take a tower, but it pissed me off that the NIN who knew the mechanics already refused to do them.


Also did a run of Sirensong Sea before that one. The tank was a dink. The BLM was brand new and the tank ran off and got killed because he wouldn't wait for her/me. I went back to the ship to show her how to get off it. He then refused to wait for me to reapply Protect to him (I switch to Protect when needed in dungeons) until we wiped because he stood in fire, while in Deliverance, after pulling two groups together.

I thought I share my absolute ridiculous story today, since normally us veterans or mentors get blamed, let me tell you how my leveling roulette went, with newly joined players and their attitude. I get tam tara, and you would think, that this should go very smoothly, in comparison to level 70 dungeons. Well I am very wrong thinking that. First 4 seconds into the dungeon, tanks hp drops to nearly 0, and I pop one heal. Now of course every mob flies at me, because tank (war) in that case, didn't use overpower/flash or even bothered hitting the other mobs. No problem, it's a low level dungeon, who cares if I am tanking, it's not going to kill me.

Right after, tank starts complaining, saying I shouldn't hit the mobs, yet I haven't even done that since well I was trying to explain the basics of tanking to him. Next pull same thing, now I am thinking to myself, screw it I will just tank but at least I can dps while at it. Again tank starts mouthing off, saying I shouldn't heal or dps, and wait for him to gain hate/aggro. I'm thinking to myself, having played tank prior and know low lvl dungeons, maybe he just takes a bit more time than others would. So I didn't say nothing and like a good healer, stood there and waited, since clearly the tank was already in argument mode.

So we make it to the first boss, tank starts with telling me that they are from wow, and fully geared etc. I didn't say nothing, because since when does that work in ffxiv? lol During the pulls I noticed the little dps, constantly running to get the chests, despite the fact that we didn't clear these rooms. Twice I had to run back and raise the dps, and told him to follow, but being ignored. We finally made it to the last boss, by that time I was already done, a dungeon that isn't difficult and shouldn't take over 25 minutes, having to read all these arguments in the chat, made me want to slap somebody.

Tank is watching cutscene and so does the dps, all the sudden, that little dps gets out of the cut scene, jumps down. I said don't move or we will start the boss. Just like the last final battle when you reach lvl 70, someone saying don't move, apparently means run around. Sure enough, dps pulls the boss and I thought to myself, let's just keep them alive so I can get the hell out of this roulette.

Tank now complains, calling me any word out of the book, ending his sentence with thanks for waiting you stupid C.... I told him, listen I wasn't the one pulling the boss. We wipe of course, because dps doesn't do enough dmg, don't focus on tail, and I can't get dps or heals our because I am holding like 6 adds, the boss and the tail to the same time lol. Im about to kick the dps, remember the one that irked me already, throughout the whole run. Now tank once again starts arguing with me and vote kick was dismissed.

I said to the tank, please can you pull, I would like to get out of here. Tanks starts saying oh this dumb healer has fxxxxx more important stuff to do, get a job you wuss etc. I ignore it because there's no reason to even make it worse, even tho I could have sat his butt down right here and there, but it would have been pointless.

We finally pull a 2nd time, again I am tanking/dpsing and healing, keeping myself alive, tank says heal me while standing in every pod and aoe there is. We finally beat it, yes it felt like doing savage content lol, tank keeps insulting me.

Before I then left, I told him, if he plans on getting to lvl 70 or lvl 25 in that case, it would be better not to make more healers mad down the line, and that his WoW experience does nothing for him in FFXIV. Left the dungeon and blacklisted both of them. Sure I could have filed a report but c'mon I was happy to be done with that tonight.

If that's nowadays the new attitude of new players, we are looking at a very bright future, might as well go play f2p, at least some of these have nicer people in there, then I find lately in lower or mid level dungeons.

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Such a classic WoW player, I'm not even surprised.

I think no matter what people say going forward, I'm going to post how-to guides before bosses regardless of the instance involved. Had a rather terrible Lakshimi today where half the people were new, as was I but only in the sense that it was my alt doing it, and it was a near unmitigated disaster for a good chunk of the run.

- New tank cleaved the other healer and I with the adds, killing us within the first few seconds of the first pull.
- DPS ran off the sides with the markers on the second pull due to lack of understanding of how the mechanic worked and panic flailing.
- People not understanding vril no matter how many times they watched others doing it, leading to even more knock offs...
- One DPS in particular didn't get any of the mechanics in spite of the fact that the fight too 10x longer than it should have, causing everything Lakshimi had to be shown at LEAST four times if not more. Which, hey, she doesn't have an enrage mechanic so that's nice.
- I'm also pretty sure one of the DPS refused my raise at one point on mistake, because they accepted it later from the other healer...

All in all it just reminded me very clearly that I can't expect people to just understand mechanics without being told and that what I find very intuitive might be moon speak to others. To the DPS involved I'm very sorry for not explaining at the beginning, instead resorting to telling you how to do the mechanics WHILE they were happening after it was apparent that it didn't make sense to some of you. That was my bad and I hope you can forgive me for it.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

I thought I share my absolute ridiculous story today <snipped for length>

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That's just.. wow I have no words, you were a lot nicer and patient than I would have been, that's for sure, and I would have bailed asap *big hugs*