Please grow the MMO part of the game. End game is lousy.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

When I said they're already working on 7.0, it wasn't a reference to job changes. That's the last bit of change incorporated into any expansion, not the first.

What things might SE be working on right now?

Story line
Concept art for new zones/major characters/dungeon instances, etc.
Plotting the next series of raids and story dungeons

"Slow their roll and stop planning things so far ahead" is really bad advice for an MMORPG, unless you're asking them to spend an extra two years before the next expansion comes out.

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They’re already taking longer per expansion now since they increased the breaks time. Considering they can’t seem to sustain the present content and job system yes, i think they need to take a step back and address the current problems. I know you weren’t specifically saying that i was just throwing it out there lol.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

But let's not forget what was being asked for here to already be met with "well, go play something else":

More fixtures of RP, especially in making a character of/for ourselves beyond just the scope of our silent emote responses in the MSQ.

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I haven't run across any threads in the last few years that are asking for RP in-game. Do you mean choices that affect how the game goes foward? That's easy enough to do in a single player game, and an absolute nightmare in a shared world.

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Things that make us want to go out into the (semi-) open world with other people and do social things, ideally beyond just the carrot and stick of relic grinds and hunts.

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FATES and Hunts are out there. I fail to see what 'social things' people who RP aren't already doing in the open world. You'd have to give examples - just don't use FFXI as an example, please. There isn't anything exciting about traveling long distances through areas where you could be killed for no purpose, especially when there is flight in the game. This game does not have an exploration minigame. Such a minigame would require turning off flight in all areas you could possibly play it.

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More widely available housing that isn't demolished if we want to take time off for more than 44 days at a time.

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SE had a concept for housing beyond most other games of the day. Most MMORPGs didn't have housing. If they had housing, it was instanced. You can experience instanced housing right now, without fear of the FC room or apartment suddenly disappearing.

I've played other MMORPGs with housing, and this game has by far the richest set of furnishings and themes. The fact is housing is hardware intensive, and thus limited because of the housing features, which is why they don't promise to maintain your house forever and ever.

I suppose they could make massive changes to the housing system, basically turning houses into multi-level apartments or something, with no neighborhoods or external areas for housing. Would that work for you?

Offer up some ideas beyond "make more houses available". What are you willing to lose in order to grant housing for every player, in perpetuity. It isn't going to happen with the current design.

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Originally Posted by Mapleine

I grew a bit bothered seeing the heavy discussion about wooing offline players and revamping all the content to appeal to holdouts.

I have many friends I'd like to bring into the game, but it will never happen. The mere fact that this game connects to public spaces with open chat makes it a no go for most of those types. This is kind of a lot of resources to dedicate to things.

Meanwhile, many years later, our entire end game is still six total encounters, for half a year. The lack of growth is, as always, pretty disappointing. I really figured by this point we'd have more meaningful dungeons or at least a few more bosses at launch.

I'm not much of a malcontent here, I don't want large changes or weird mandatory grinds. I love the game, I love the combat and flow of it all, I just want a bit more to do (especially early expansion). I don't even really care about rewards, I just wanna play more and keep my friends who DO like MMOs interested longer.

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I agree with this. While I think "lousy" is too harsh a term, I do wish there was more content to crack into as a level 90, so that I've got more opportunities to practice unfamiliar Jobs. When I do expert each week, I try to use Jobs that are not my main, but this isn't always the case. Sometimes I get busy and can't play as much, so I end up using a Job that's very familiar just to make the run go smoothly.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

Offer up some ideas beyond "make more houses available". What are you willing to lose in order to grant housing for every player, in perpetuity. It isn't going to happen with the current design.

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These aren't my own ideas --only the ones mentioned most recently before the typical retort of "go play something else"-- so I can't defend or interpolate each accurately on their originators' behalf.

My point was merely that these things aren't so different from XIV that "go play something else" becomes the more reasonable solution; they lie solidly within expansions we've already seen in XIV of what the game provides and entails.