The server is full, try again later (1017)

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

I had issues with the DF/instanced portions prior to a few of the maintenances. Those seem to be resolved (for the most part). However the amount of people connecting or trying to connect to a single server has not. It's increasing. So at this point I can honestly say that I don't believe that the Duty Finder is the issue. Their servers just can't currently handle the amount of load that the many NA/EU users ALL logging in would place on them.

This could have been worked on during Beta P4 if SE had extended NA/EU's P4 stress testing after clearing the original 3102.

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That's just it though... there doesnt' appear to be an issue with server load balancing in the normal portions of the game. I managed to get on briefly just before maintenance last night--in the middle of them increasing the login limit while everyone was still stewing over 1017 during primetime.

Server was FULL of people. And not just AFK'ers. There were HORDES of people around some of the NPC's in Gridania, running quests, killing level 1-8 mobs for items/hunts--so much that we had to wait on repops and would unofficially team up to kill them faster so people could progress.

There were NO zoning issues. 0... zip... nada. Zone loads and NPC cut scenes loaded without a hitch... smooth as it ever was last weekend. Was far better than XI EVER was in the 7 years of playing that game before I quit. And this is on a laptop, not my PC with the high speed drives and everything overclocked to just under their breaking point.

I also never had any issues with the game prior to them taking everything down (it was the same for beta and ths time around). The only reason I got kicked Saturday was because of the emergency maintenance. Since then, I was unable to get on---when SE started locking everyone out arbitrarily. The same thing happened with Beta. Once I was able to get on, I played for a whole day until SE intervened and bounced me from the server for maintenance--then I got locked out again because of their snafus trying to fix things. Both then and now, I had NO issues with stability until they kicked me out of the game and/or locked down access.

They are just being overly cautious at this point.

Why is there not an AFK timeout to kick players out?

This would relieve a lot of the stress on the servers.

Havnt been able to play a single minute of EA. Nice job SE once again not thinking ahead and pushing things out without enough time to test. Doesnt seem that you guys will ever learn from mistakes. Gota meet that dealine! Fuck if it works or not.

Oh well EA is gone so nothing to be done about that. So How about it SE? Do you think it might be possible that i could just maybe play the game after it launches? You know since i paid for it and all? just maybe? oh no take your time SE...You would think with this game being a relaunch that they would have focused a huge amount of energy on making the launch successful...

But nope SE likes to try and fix things at the last second.

I DEMAND BLOOD BE SPILT

http://i.imgur.com/mDyK3ii.jpg

everyday 3hr++ only to log in.........Fun of the game....fading away:p

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Originally Posted by Hatori_Elric

i don't care for why people do it, idling for hours on end just to play later in the day is horrible and only contributes to this problem with people being able to connect. you are not only being selfish but you are also making it that much harder for others to play and you are to blame partially for this issue and everyone doing it should stop. that might be enough to help remove some of the congestion. when i finally logged in earlier, i forgot just how many i saw just idling and not doing anything. way to many frankly and i think SE should put in measures to prevent it. maybe auto kick people for going idling for more than maybe 20 minutes - 1 hour.

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I would like to complain about this, but I can't honestly say that if I was actually able to get into a server that I wouldn't leave my player AFK. If it means getting to play vs. not getting to play, I would pick the former. With that being said I obviously want an AFK timer, but at the same time, I'm not going to get upset at the players who remain AFK. It's SE's fault for allowing it.

Oh the pain! Played MMOs from EQ 1 on. Played just about all of them. Never seen such a horrible launch. I was lucky enough to get on today after clicking over and over again. After a very short play time I zoned and got booted why zoning. SE does love to tease us!

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Originally Posted by castial

everyday 3hr++ only to log in.........Fun of the game....fading away:p

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Welcome to 1.0... I mean 2.0... I mean... I don't know anymore

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Originally Posted by Bob-Loblaw

Welcome to 1.0... I mean 2.0... I mean... I don't know anymore

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Welcome to SE doesn't give a flying fuck about us .0

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Originally Posted by Raist

That's just it though... there doesnt' appear to be an issue with server load balancing in the normal portions of the game. I managed to get on briefly just before maintenance last night--in the middle of them increasing the login limit while everyone was still stewing over 1017 during primetime.

Server was FULL of people. And not just AFK'ers. There were HORDES of people around some of the NPC's in Gridania, running quests, killing level 1-8 mobs for items/hunts--so much that we had to wait on repops and would unofficially team up to kill them faster so people could progress.

There were NO zoning issues. 0... zip... nada. Zone loads and NPC cut scenes loaded without a hitch... smooth as it ever was last weekend. Was far better than XI EVER was in the 7 years of playing that game before I quit. And this is on a laptop, not my PC with the high speed drives and everything overclocked to just under their breaking point.

They are just being overly cautious at this point.

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I don't agree with you about it not being the amount of players. If the server can only handle 2000 players (random number), then it would be logical that they let in say 1000 -1500 on at at given time (this might be lower given the severe restrictions they placed). This allows for overhead so that the players in the game already don't have a poor quality experience (i.e. lag, zoning issues, etc.).

The fact that they are preventing so many individuals from getting into servers (1017) keeps the environment steady for those already in. If they open the floodgates at this point, especially with launch right around the corner (2 am?), without having additionally configured servers the servers that are running right now will crash.

Very sad :(

9 hours just today not counting the 5 or 6 yesterday, SE you can &%#$ my balls...

haven't been able to log on at all guess it will be the release date

Maybe we should go play on Ultima server, sounds like it is the refugee camp for NA/EU people. Could start an english speaking community there

I only got 1 hour of play so far :( SE should release another update asap or something.

bored as hell, any news about this? i feel like they're hiding in a dark corner adopting a fetal position.

after spamming to get into malboro for 10 min i finally got placed number 20 in que then after about 3 minutes i got booted from the que and given a 1017 error

Way to go, Yoshi! May as well change my Legacy tattoo to Error Code:"Pick one, I've seen 'em all" and stamp it across my forhead. Sooooooooo Solllyyyy!1oneI.

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

I don't agree with you about it not being the amount of players. If the server can only handle 2000 players (random number), then it would be logical that they let in say 1000 -1500 on at at given time (this might be lower given the severe restrictions they placed). This allows for overhead so that the players in the game already don't have a poor quality experience (i.e. lag, zoning issues, etc.).

The fact that they are preventing so many individuals from getting into servers (1017) keeps the environment steady for those already in. If they open the floodgates at this point, especially with launch right around the corner (2 am? ) without having additionally configured servers the ones that are running right now will crash.

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This is what ques are for. Someone logs off and another person logs in. Right now you can't even get into a que unless you just get lucky and even then you still have a chance of being booted from it. I don't think even they know what is wrong at this point. Even being able to get into a que would alleviate a lot of the frustration. At least then people would know they have a chance to play. I have never seen a company completely lock out over half their player base from even playing the game.

I've stayed optimistic throughout the entire Early Access with all of my friends and LS, as well as while reading the posts on these forums. However, at the end up EA, I've played a grand total of *maybe* 4 hours. I have been absolutely unable to log in and play on nearly all of my attempts. I gave you money before the game even came out. I would hope my money would go towards a solid product that was ready come Early Access. This was something you, Square Enix, promoted as an incentive to put money into an at the time unfinished product. I have not seen a return on that incentive at all. Get it together. I am so incredibly disappointed.

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Originally Posted by Maalphas

Welcome to SE doesn't give a flying fuck about us .0

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Oh did I forget that one... sorry about that. I figured that was just a given

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

I don't agree with you about it not being the amount of players. If the server can only handle 2000 players (random number), then it would be logical that they let in say 1000 -1500 on at at given time (this might be lower given the severe restrictions they placed). This allows for overhead so that the players in the game already don't have a poor quality experience (i.e. lag, zoning issues, etc.).

The fact that they are preventing so many individuals from getting into servers (1017) keeps the environment steady for those already in. If they open the floodgates at this point, especially with launch right around the corner (2 am?), without having additionally configured servers the servers that are running right now will crash.

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bah.. forum congestion... missed an edit I made. Took a while for it to show up:

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I also never had any issues with the game prior to them taking everything down (it was the same for beta and ths time around). The only reason I got kicked Saturday was because of the emergency maintenance. Since then, I was unable to get on---when SE started locking everyone out arbitrarily. The same thing happened with Beta. Once I was able to get on, I played for a whole day until SE intervened and bounced me from the server for maintenance--then I got locked out again because of their snafus trying to fix things. Both then and now, I had NO issues with stability until they kicked me out of the game and/or locked down access.

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The point is there didn't seem to be any issues once in the game, save for some specific sections of content. And that was before all the lock-downs to logins.

Actual normal gameplay appeared to be being managed well. Now, if it's an issue with the logins, they could make a larger queue or something. If it's still an issue with the instance servers, they know ways to work around it (granted, it may take time to implement---but they could deny just that content in the short term).

The point is, there is a much larger portion of the game that works fine.... they are locking everyone out because of problems with a small portion of it. As long as they are trimming how many players can access it, they will never know if they've fixed it. All they are learning is, it's fine with say, 1500 players online. Nevermind that there may be 3000 registered to that server.

At this point, they need to be focusing on what they are going to do for those 1500 that are being flat out denied access all together.

Same here. Cactuar.

Throttleing back my login is not the answer, how about kick out all the afk people who have stayed in eveyday to reserve there spot once they get home from school/work? or is this too intellegent for SE.

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Originally Posted by Sadebreth

This is what ques are for. Someone logs off and another person logs in. Right now you can't even get into a que unless you just get lucky and even then you still have a chance of being booted from it. I don't think even they know what is wrong at this point. Even being able to get into a que would alleviate a lot of the frustration. At least then people would know they have a chance to play. I have never seen a company completely lock out over half their player base from even playing the game.

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How the queue and how it's working was already explained. Several times. There is in fact a queue. SE has stated they have severe restrictions in place. This means that if they restricted the server to 1000 players (random number), and if there are already 995 players online, and you are 25th in queue, the first 5 players will get in and the manual limitations will kick all the rest from the queue. When the server opens up slots individuals will be able to see the queue system again as the process repeats until SE decides to stop throttling.

They are throttling to test server capacity and load; which imo should have been done in Beta P4.

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It's now the 26th 24 hours later since this started happening yesterday and still getting the server full 1017 error yay :(

I love how this game was supposed to redeem the hot mess that was FF14 1.0, looks like square is sticking it to american fans once again.

Dat 1017 error. I'm fairly certain that by this time Thursday, if this problem persists, SE will have single-handedly lost about 60% of the NA populations' confidence in this game. I can't count on two hands how many of my RL friends who were interested in this game have already decided against playing this game.

To anyone who defends SE on the issue that this thread was made for: We paid for a product and we have not received a working version of that product. Furthermore, we have not been informed of why this product isn't working properly and have not received a definitive answer on when it will be fixed. Basically, it's like buying a car and then receiving it without wheels. Who wants that?

The downside to all these posts in Tech. Support/General Discussion is: None of them will be read and all of our cries will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes. Good riddance SE, for you have ceased to please the majority of your consumers.

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Originally Posted by Meirii

Throttleing back my login is not the answer, how about kick out all the afk people who have stayed in eveyday to reserve there spot once they get home from school/work? or is this too intellegent for SE.

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If anything this is the best temporary solution. Alot of mmos do it as it is. It is looking like too complex a concept for SE to grasp

I beat the screen once...then got a Library Runtime Error and my game crashed. T_T

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

How the queue and how it's working was already explained. Several times. There is in fact a queue. SE has stated they have severe restrictions in place. This means that if they restricted the server to 1000 players (random number), and if there are already 995 players online, and you are 25th in queue, the first 5 players will get in and the manual limitations will kick all the rest from the queue. When the server opens up slots individuals will be able to see the queue system again as the process repeats.

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How does this explain people that get into the que and then get booted from it. If you are able to get into the que then you should no longer be part of the restriction. If that is the case then they did some piss poor math on how many people they are allowing in the que to begin with.

The part about it all that really bothers me is the number of clicks and screens you go through to GET the 1017 error. Seriously--if you're going to throw an error rather than put us in queue (and throw us OUT of queue), make the return screen the same character select page you left from rather than all the way back at the lobby x.x

to me even if the servers were up right now I am still considering canceling my game. Just shows me what to expect from this half assed company, it's no wonder this company is in so much trouble, I know a few western devs that worked with them, they all said they are retarded.

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

How the queue and how it's working was already explained. Several times. There is in fact a queue. SE has stated they have severe restrictions in place. This means that if they restricted the server to 1000 players (random number), and if there are already 995 players online, and you are 25th in queue, the first 5 players will get in and the manual limitations will kick all the rest from the queue. When the server opens up slots individuals will be able to see the queue system again as the process repeats until SE decides to stop throttling.

They are throttling to test server capacity and load; which imo should have been done in Beta P4.

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But that's not right either. Once you are in the Queue... you should stay in that queue until you back out of it. What appears to be happening now is people are just getting bounced from queue just before logging in, or they are geting flat out rejected all together.

Ideally when using a login queue, there should not be a Full Server rejection message unless you are trying to create a new character on that server---not when trying to log in with an established character.

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Originally Posted by Raist

But that's not right either. Once you are in the Queue... you should stay in that queue until you back out of it. What appears to be happening now is people are just getting bounced from queue just before logging in, or they are geting flat out rejected all together.

Ideally when using a login queue, there should not be a Full Server rejection message unless you are trying to create a new character on that server---not when trying to log in with an established character.

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^^^^^^
This!!

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Originally Posted by Sadebreth

How does this explain people that get into the que and then get booted from it. If you are able to get into the queue then you should no longer be part of the restriction. If that is the case then they need they did some piss poor math on how many people they are allowing in the que to begin with.

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This perfectly explains how the queue is currently functioning. It's all because of the manual limitation that SE has set. If they set a manual limit of the server being only able to hold 1000 players and there are 995 online, you login and get the queue at 25th spot, because of the manual limitation SE placed, once those last 5 slots fill up the queue vanishes leaving everyone else to restart the process.

My best guess would be that this will stop happening with the queue once SE removes their "Severe restrictions".

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Originally Posted by Syrehn

This perfectly explains how the queue is currently functioning. It's all because of the manual limitation that SE has set. If they set a manual limit of the server being only able to hold 1000 players and there are 995 online, you login and get the que at 25th spot, because of the manual limitation SE placed, once those last 5 slots fill up the queue vanishes leaving everyone else to restart the process.

My best guess would be that this will stop happening with the queue once SE removes their "Severe restrictions".

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Then as I said before they did some piss poor math on how many they are letting into the que in the first place. It should know how many people are already on the server and how many it can even let into the que. It shouldn't let you into the que and then boot you after the servers gets full again. That defeats the purpose of even having a que. That's why I don't believe that is what is happening.

Squerror-1017ix Presents: Login Fantasy 14: A Realm Stillborn.

I've been trying for an hour now. I got into the queue, then got booted from it. Not, I get the same 1017 error and it boots me right back to the lobby. SE should really just log off all the people who are AFK in the game so that those of us who are trying to play, can.