Play other games :)

With all due respect, I don't believe we've ever interacted prior to this exchange so I have my doubts that you can reduce my feedback over the years to 'complaining solely about venue goers'. I've made a few posts referring to them from time to time as an increasing demographic that is actively being catered to at the expense of other demographics within the game. It's not the controversial take that you seem to be desperately trying to portray it as and it certainly isn't the only aspect of the game or community that I've brought up.

I've tried to clarify my point and you've doubled down, so I see no further reason for either of us to interact again. The ignore function exists for a reason and perhaps it is best we both make use of it. Especially when you're referring to posting on the forums with the intention of leaving feedback as 'stalking the forums'.

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Originally Posted by EliaStormblade

Stalking the forums, not individual people. Some words have multiple definitions, you know? Maybe if you did more than sit in your digital house all day while making seethe posts on the forum, you'd know that.


I don't need to have a personal stake in something to make light of the intellectual laziness inherent in grabbing a group that generally minds its own business and probably doesn't post on these forums and pinning the blame on them. I know you think nobody will bat for that group, and rightfully so- because those players interact very little with people who fall outside of their cliques and therefore do not build up any kind of rapport with different arms of the community. That also makes them low-hanging fruit.

But I'm sure you're a 100% convinced that the very same group you malign for chronically ignoring and avoiding all content is also the group responsible for there allegedly being less content. Because a group that doesn't engage with the existing content (voluntarily or not) is most definitely going to be concerned with culling that which they're already ignoring as is.

And I would request that you start discussing in good faith, as well as refrain from being two-faced, making bold, generalizing statements when on the offensive and then turning around and appealing to some sort of sense of forum honor and etiquette when you're called out on your poor conduct while playing at being meek.

Try again.

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And that is exactly what I meant ; ) There is no "stalking the forums", that is not a thing, also I am chilling playing the game the way I want it, doing housing and spending time with my friends, and I am reading and responding on the forums, but apparently that makes you upset lmao

Looks like someone's being a little "obsessed"

XVII may be an MMO. If so, the trend is 2 single player FFs, then one multiplayer FF.

I doubt they or anyone foreseen the WoW rush which pushed XIV on the juggernaut WoW's throne temporarily.

My guess, they were pre-producing another online title....maybe XVII. WoW happen, they pushed it back & began full steam ahead on XVI. Not to say XVI was not going to be a priority anyway.....

Really not much more they can do with XIV, and we are seeing it in real time.

XI was once the most profitable FF game of all-time....and they moved on from it.....

.....XIV failed, and they still went full steam ahead on XIV after the fact while dumping the most profitable FF title. SoA was released due to XIV's failure imo.

Go play other games, I think that means XVI.

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Go play other games, I think that means XVI.

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Can I go play other games that dont require me to play $500 for a console to play one game?

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I also just see a lot of potential there that I want to believe CBU3 is smart enough to take advantage of. For me, it's not a situation of "this expansion has foundational flaws that cannot be mended," but more a "it needs to be iterated on to hammer it into shape."

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Makes sense, and on this last statement we can definitely agree.

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Can I go play other games that dont require me to play $500 for a console to play one game?

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Just wait for the PC port like I will. I will wait 8 months or so for the Steam Version. Then 6 more for the biggest bugs to be out and then 8 more for a huge discount :)
Thankfully other game studios make great games for PC. Just like back in 06 when times between FF mainline releases became too huge, i like to thank SE for making me try out a large variety of different games from different developers :)

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Makes sense, and on this last statement we can definitely agree.

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There is one major exception, of course, and that's with a lack of Bozja-esque content.

All other things they could improve, but there's no way I can conceive of where they can do that this expansion, so in that sense, everyone who digs that seems kind of SoL until at least like 7.2-7.3. I've made some few remarks that maybe they could get rid of Variants and instead make the locations some sort of mini-exploratory zone with FATEs while keeping Criterion its own thing (albeit adjusted to be more like it was intended to be) but I don't know how viable that is. Alternatively, they can add mild battle content to the Island Sanctuaries, where you have to fight and subdue minibosses you find on there for rewards. Again, I don't think anything will come close to a fully-fledged exploratory zone.

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I'd be inclined to suspect that I've hit a nerve by calling out such individuals

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They are no longer in control of the narrative for the first time in this game's history! They're panicking as all sources of data, streamers, in-game activity indicate that the silent MAJORITY disagrees with their assessment of the state of the game. They can't stand to be in the MINORITY, because that's what they have always accused the "naysayers" for being in.

It's funny that the rabid fanbase of FF14 has finally hit a truth that they can't just cover up by swarming the rest of social media anymore. The same rabid fanbase that has for years lied or bragged about this game's positivity and superiority has nowhere to bite now that the rest of the MMO community has mentally "quarantined" FF14 by simply not interacting with this group anymore. But of course there's fresh meat as long-time, sane FF14 players are speaking out finally.

Well, it's more like "if you don't do savage and have zero need for crafting go play another game." Otherwise welcome to the worst pain in the neck for anyone with an actual real life job because your entire life becomes nothing but grinding out gathering and crafting materia, running around in circles getting rare mats that you hopefully can gather on whatever gear you got, then turn that stuff into armor assuming you leveled every single crafting job to 90. And FYI that entire experience with crafting tinctures and food doesn't stop until you clear the tier and get everything you want from it.

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They are no longer in control of the narrative for the first time in this game's history! They're panicking as all sources of data, streamers, in-game activity indicate that the silent MAJORITY disagrees with their assessment of the state of the game. They can't stand to be in the MINORITY, because that's what they have always accused the "naysayers" for being in.

It's funny that the rabid fanbase of FF14 has finally hit a truth that they can't just cover up by swarming the rest of social media anymore. The same rabid fanbase that has for years lied or bragged about this game's positivity and superiority has nowhere to bite now that the rest of the MMO community has mentally "quarantined" FF14 by simply not interacting with this group anymore. But of course there's fresh meat as long-time, sane FF14 players are speaking out finally.

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I think they're legitimately afraid that if we don't hit above Endwalker release numbers (which we won't), people will start to see that it's not actually a popular game and move on. That and there's almost nothing exciting about ending the MSQ arc the way it did.

I'm comfortable with XIV not being popular, always have been. I just want it to stop sucking.