The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Rae88

The worst of it has passed. Initially a large group of people were getting on their biggest mounts to hide quests destinations, tagging mobs so he couldn't kill them, and other things. There's also a rumour being suggested on the r/ffxiv discord that a discord has been set up just to mess with him and there was chatter in zone chat on how people should impede his progress. It's pathetic behaviour.

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What's especially sad about it is that outside of that he seems to have been enjoying the game thus far.
Like just stop ruining peoples good time people....

He seems to be having fun despite the crowd following him around. But then again, he's probably used to that.

GCBTW .....

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Originally Posted by Rae88

The worst of it has passed. Initially a large group of people were getting on their biggest mounts to hide quests destinations, tagging mobs so he couldn't kill them, and other things. There's also a rumour being suggested on the r/ffxiv discord that a discord has been set up just to mess with him and there was chatter in zone chat on how people should impede his progress. It's pathetic behaviour.

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Ive been watching since after he created the character, so I saw the madness. I dont consider that "embarrassing the community" as dreadful as Im sure that beginning would be for anyone. But several hours in and he's been progressing at a very good pace. Some annoyances but were quickly squashed by the tools provided.
Probly the one challenge he cant help is being followed around the open world.

If that Discord thing is true, THAT right there is no good and shame on those people lol.
But I can say they have been largely unsuccessful.

My God. I can't stand the annoying idiots following him around everywhere and ruining the experience. You can't see anything; they oneshot everything; and they use Performance just to be pests (looking at you, annoying moron spamming that equally annoying high note). Gosh! I'm surprised he hasn't quit yet. This makes the whole community look so damn bad. Just let the guy play the game like a normal person. Is that so hard to do? They've been at it for almost 8 hours now. Don't they have anything better to do?

While the attention seekers/harassers situation is sad and annoying. I'd look at the positives.

Asmon has been super positive about ARR so far, he's doing a bit for stream of course as usual, but he's mostly positively excited about his chad tank role fantasy, enjoying simple ARR gameplay and gear, paying attention to the story more than your average player, reading everything.

One truely great moment at the very beginning of the stream : he idled in the main menu talking to chat, and the ARR cinematic started playing. The ARR cinematic is maybe the best piece of media to hype players about the game, and he was super positive and hype about it. I'm really glad hundreds of thousands of people got to see it.

While yeah out of 200k people you're going to find trolls, i think this stream will be positive in exposure for the game. I personally started playing because I was exposed to the game on twitch years ago - and in my eyes, a surge of new players is very healthy for an mmo. i'd stray away from generalizing 200k internet randos on the worst most vocal people, just like we don't want the ffxiv community as a whole to be associated to the couple hundred of trolls hounding him.

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Originally Posted by MothKira

While the attention seekers/harassers situation is sad and annoying. I'd look at the positives.

Asmon has been super positive about ARR so far, he's doing a bit for stream of course as usual, but he's mostly positively excited about his chad tank role fantasy, enjoying simple ARR gameplay and gear, paying attention to the story more than your average player, reading everything.

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I think it’s a bit too soon for this tbh. He hasn’t even gotten into the worst parts of ARR yet. Early ARR is fine. It’s the Titan and Coerthas arcs along with the post patches that kill people. We’ll see how he fares against that.Not trying to be a downer to him, i wish him the best of luck. Just saying lets keep realistic expectations for now. It's easy to get overhyped for these things.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

I think it’s a bit too soon for this tbh. He hasn’t even gotten into the worst parts of ARR yet. Early ARR is fine. It’s the Titan and Coerthas arcs along with the post patches that kill people. We’ll see how he fares against that.

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There’s also the heavenward burnout of “I made it past arr and now I’m burnt out so I’ll quit” phase

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Originally Posted by van_arn

There’s also the heavenward burnout of “I made it past arr and now I’m burnt out so I’ll quit” phase

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That would be post patch stuff, I assume.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

That would be post patch stuff, I assume.

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Yeah, I’ve seen people burn out in 3.0 because it took all of their effort to suffer through 2.x.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Imagine having so little faith in your "great community" that when players from other backgrounds want to jump you treat it like a sand castle about to fall. If all you idolize about a community is stagnation, then that community has no tomorrow.

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I have a feeling if anyone tries to tell him he will end up just wrecking them with his attitude lol. I only watch him a little but I feel like some people here will end up being shut up for a change knowing the bubble is about to burst and the community is going to change

Why do the people following him have the worst mogs too lol.
If you're gonna be an attention seeker at least have something good to show?

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

t I feel like some people here will end up being shut up for a change knowing the bubble is about to burst and the community is going to change

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Im curious...what is this Bubble thats being talked about?

Whats going to change about the FFXIV community? Probly the one and only thing Id be worried about is if Sprouts will be suddenly backhanded for existing or being badly treated just because they are new and dont know any better.
Otherwise...I dont understand what bubble is going to burst with the #2 MMO or whats going to change. We've had WoW refuges for the past few years, what is Asmondgold going to change by playing the game?

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Originally Posted by iVolke

I'm watching the stream and he keeps mentioning how troublesome it is trying to play with people harassing him. His chat is constantly complaining about it too, since you can't see the actual gameplay when he fights or runs around, only a mob of players with endgame mounts who troll his quest kills.

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I'm bit disappointed in the FFXIV community; I thought we were better than this... There's no excuse for harassment, I don't care if you like the guy or not, just quit being bullies, it's embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

I'm bit disappointed in the FFXIV community; I thought we were better than this... There's no excuse for harassment, I don't care if you like the guy or not, just quit being bullies, it's embarrassing.

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Sadly all it takes is a handful of morons to cause a lot of problems.
The fact that it isn't worse is actually indicative of how good the community is imo, I actually did expect it to be far worse than it is.

OK...watching him run Sastasha so slow is causing me emotional trauma :P

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

OK...watching him run Sastasha so slow is causing me emotional trauma :P

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I mean, he's learning something he hasn't done before. I suspect he'll be chain pulling before too long.

I'm guessing a lot of his reactions are based on WoW dungeons? He seems to be taking even bosses slow.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

We've had WoW refuges for the past few years, what is Asmondgold going to change by playing the game?

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Ultimately? Nothing. Though I'm sure my wait que when logging in tonight will likely be twice as large as it normally is, since we're on the same server.

A lot of this is backlash drummed up by certain posters who have cropped up on here, whose insufferable attitudes and disparaging remarks make it quite clear where their allegiances lie--and it is not with this game or it's community.

However, as much as I would like to lay the blame at someone's feet, its just stupid people being stupid at this point. A staple in any MMO. Thankfully he should be used to that.

But I don't think his presence is going to shake anything up beyond what it already has. We have to give him the power for that, and seeing as we haven't really given any streamer that sort of carte blanc (in this game at least), I have to assume Asmond's day in the sun will eventually fade as well.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Im curious...what is this Bubble thats being talked about?

Whats going to change about the FFXIV community? Probly the one and only thing Id be worried about is if Sprouts will be suddenly backhanded for existing or being badly treated just because they are new and dont know any better.
Otherwise...I dont understand what bubble is going to burst with the #2 MMO or whats going to change. We've had WoW refuges for the past few years, what is Asmondgold going to change by playing the game?

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Zepla has been talking about with the influx of players coming form WoW

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Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd

Ultimately? Nothing. Though I'm sure my wait que when logging in tonight will likely be twice as large as it normally is, since we're on the same server.

A lot of this is backlash drummed up by certain posters who have cropped up on here, whose insufferable attitudes and disparaging remarks make it quite clear where their allegiances lie--and it is not with this game or it's community.

However, as much as I would like to lay the blame at someone's feet, its just stupid people being stupid at this point. A staple in any MMO. Thankfully he should be used to that.

But I don't think his presence is going to shake anything up beyond what it already has. We have to give him the power for that, and seeing as we haven't really given any streamer that sort of carte blanc (in this game at least), I have to assume Asmond's day in the sun will eventually fade as well.

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Shall see I don't watch him that often but seeing how many followers he has only time will tell

Watching him is great it reminds me of the first time I played this game. He doesn't even let the annoying toxic players bother him

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Sadly all it takes is a handful of morons to cause a lot of problems.
The fact that it isn't worse is actually indicative of how good the community is imo, I actually did expect it to be far worse than it is.

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Ugh, the coping.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Ugh, the coping.

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What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

What exactly about what I said is wrong?
This is just a commonly accepted thing in psychology too, if you get 100 comments and one is negative it's very common for people to focus more on the negative comment.
People in general are more prone to pay attention to negativity because we're conditioned to look for perceived threats.

That's why a handful of morons can make it seems like it's a much bigger problem than it is, I have the same experience in WoW too.
I never said that what they're doing is right I did say that it's wrong in earlier comments.
But if it was an issue with '' the community '' then it'd be far worse, there's not even that many people following him around it's a handful of people at most.

And it's not fair to judge an entire community based on what some randos on a Discord decided to do, the same way that it's not fair to judge and generalize men based on what some asshole men do.

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This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

I mean, he's learning something he hasn't done before. I suspect he'll be chain pulling before too long.

I'm guessing a lot of his reactions are based on WoW dungeons? He seems to be taking even bosses slow.

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I am very happy he is going at his speed and the people with him aren't rushing him. It would be way worse if he got a bunch of people clearing the dungeon out by themselves and just having him run along behind.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Watching people one-shot everything is super annoying.
It was expected but ffs let him play the damn game.

Edit: Imo, just for PR and marketing purposes.
I actually think SE should have GM's watching him and porting away people doing that and warning them, it should constitute as harassment.
It just looks terrible and is boring to watch, it reflects negatively on the game and the community.




Most of his viewers don't actually play WoW, I am pretty sure he has talked about this before.
They probably used to but *many* have moved on but still watch his Streams.

I'd know because I am one of them.

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Maybe not the worst idea. That's why celebrities have bodyguards right?

It might be bad PR for Square Enix to show many harassments coming from FF playerbase, and GMs not doing anything to stop it.

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Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang

Zepla has been talking about with the influx of players coming form WoW

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So...nothing is going to change and nothing will be different.
This "Bubble" is just a fancy phrase for more players. Which of course is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

So...nothing is going to change and nothing will be different.
This "Bubble" is just a fancy phrase for more players. Which of course is a good thing.

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I think in this case the bubble is "A bunch of new people who might end up just leaving" which would be the bubble popping.

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Originally Posted by Velnora

This hasn't been a "handful". Turning this from a negative, and spinning it into some resilience of the "great community", is the epitome of coping.

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Why does it have to be an either or, I've literally implied and acknowledged that there are bad people in the community.
But in a game where the community at large or to any substantial level is bad it would've been far worse than it was.
Most people weren't even harassing him or doing anything bad.

I know that you learned a new catchy word and want to throw it around every opportunity that you get, that doesn't mean that it's true.
Pointing out the obvious that apparently isn't so obvious to some people ( with alterior motives I'd imagine ) isn't coping.
I have nothing to cope about, nothing that I've said has even so much as implied that it's what I am doing either you can't just throw that at anyone you disagree with that's just intellectually lazy and dishonest.

If anything it'd make more sense in this situation for me to say that you're coping.

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

Maybe not the worst idea. That's why celebrities have bodyguards right?

It might be bad PR for Square Enix to show many harassments coming from FF playerbase, and GMs not doing anything to stop it.

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Yeah in the end of the day Asmongold playing the game is pretty awesome marketing wise, it'd actually make sense for SE to try and make the experience as good as possible.
Dedicating a GM to keep an eye on him and deal with players harassing him wouldn't even be that big of an investement and it'd reflect very well on them and the game.

It's true tho as people have pointed out that he's used to it, I don't think he'll hold this against the game it's the same in WoW for him.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Sadly all it takes is a handful of morons to cause a lot of problems.
The fact that it isn't worse is actually indicative of how good the community is imo, I actually did expect it to be far worse than it is.

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I was watching him stream during his first Sastasha run today and he said the other members of his party were being nice and helpful so that's good to hear.

Honestly Asmon did a good stream today, didn't just skip every cut scene and actually read out most of it to chat. Its nice to see someone enjoy the game. Much prefer watching streamers who enjoy games over those who just buy a story skip and have no idea why they are at end game.

My dummy brain cannot fathom why would anyone follow a person for multiple hours who clearly does not want them to be there. Do they think they are part of something? (which they are not)
Can't they comprehend how pathetic it makes them to look like.
I rarely use the word loser but it came up really quick on tip of my tongue while i was watching the stream.

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Originally Posted by MoonPhaseAlpha

I was watching him stream during his first Sastasha run today and he said the other members of his party were being nice and helpful so that's good to hear.

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Yes he did

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Originally Posted by Losara

Honestly Asmon did a good stream today, didn't just skip every cut scene and actually read out most of it to chat. Its nice to see someone enjoy the game. Much prefer watching streamers who enjoy games over those who just buy a story skip and have no idea why they are at end game.

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Yeah, I am actually really looking forward to him getting to see the big moments with epic visuals.
I think he'll really enjoy them I've seen a lot of other Streamers get really surprised and hype about it.
FFXIV does big epic moments really well particularly in later expansions.

The dungeons early on are also too easy imo nowadays, so I am looking forward to seeing him play dungeons where bosses don't immediately die too.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Why does it have to be an either or, I've literally implied and acknowledged that there are bad people in the community.
But in a game where the community at large or to any substantial level is bad it would've been far worse than it was.
Most people weren't even harassing him or doing anything bad.

I know that you learned a new catchy word and want to throw it around every opportunity that you get, that doesn't mean that it's true.
Pointing out the obvious that apparently isn't so obvious to some people ( with alterior motives I'd imagine ) isn't coping.
I have nothing to cope about, nothing that I've said has even so much as implied that it's what I am doing either you can't just throw that at anyone you disagree with that's just intellectually lazy and dishonest.

If anything it'd make more sense in this situation for me to say that you're coping.



Yeah in the end of the day Asmongold playing the game is pretty awesome marketing wise, it'd actually make sense for SE to try and make the experience as good as possible.
Dedicating a GM to keep an eye on him and deal with players harassing him wouldn't even be that big of an investement and it'd reflect very well on them and the game.

It's true tho as people have pointed out that he's used to it, I don't think he'll hold this against the game it's the same in WoW for him.

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By what metric do you go off of "it would of been much worse", if the community was bad.

I didn't watch much, but I figured I'd at least pop in for a bit so I'd have some basis for commenting on him. He clearly seems more used to a different system (duh), and while he clearly has a good idea of the basics here, he hasn't learned everything and hasn't tried pushing his limits yet, both which are fine. At minimum, he seems willing to learn, and actually excited to see what some of the later harder fights are.

This being the first time I've seen him stream, ignoring his chat almost entirely (How do you even read any of that?), and missing all the issues he apparently had at the beginning, I might pop in to watch more, because I find it fun seeing new players/outsiders playing the game and pointing things out. It'll be interesting regardless. I wonder if someone will teach him about minimum ilevel runs. Does WoW even have anything like that?

He liked the game, even said the cutscenes were nice. I guess some of you are disappointed now that he will be playing the second day aswell :D
Was also talking about a possible record viewers and subs

I'm glad he liked the game and continues to play it. I'm also glad that the people didn't spoil his first dungeon and it keeps being like that. Doubt he'll ever see this but welcome to the game! Thanks for trying it out!

He's enjoying the game so far. I'm glad!



(I just wish he was in my data center...)

I’m happy for him. He seemed to genuinely enjoy his start, even if it was a little simple.

Square’s mmos (and Final Fantasy as a whole) have always had the bubble problem, and I’m glad to see some fresh blood sneak in even if they’ve laughed at it in the past.

I’m especially glad he got the true ffxiv experience with a naked catgirl healbot carrying his party of sprouts through sastasha.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Yes, it is his fault that people decided to follow him around, he should be banned. Nice logic there pal.

If anything this shows that SE needs to implement better instancing areas.

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Or SE could have monitored and expected this to happen and give jail time for those spergs. Or just throw them to the sharks, jails are too good for people like that