Information on 1.21 Next week?

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

They really dropped the ball this past month.

1) tell us the patch would be delayed by 2 weeks.
2) lack of lodestone updates
3) telling us the patch is delayed further AFTER telling famitsu magazine.
4) indicating a "letter from the producer" inthe next 24 hours, 48 hours ago....

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I was about to change my sig but it ain't happening... lol

They removed my previous one with Yoshida running off with the monies, btw. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

They really dropped the ball this past month.

1) tell us the patch would be delayed by 2 weeks.
2) lack of lodestone updates
3) telling us the patch is delayed further AFTER telling famitsu magazine.
4) indicating a "letter from the producer" inthe next 24 hours, 48 hours ago....

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It was 24 hours ago actually, do people forget they're in Japan and not necessarily talking about American timing?

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It was 24 hours ago actually, do people forget they're in Japan and not necessarily talking about American timing?

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do people also like to make things up, they never told us itd be within 24 hours

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

do people also like to make things up, they never told us itd be within 24 hours

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"Tomorrow" means the next day, which is 24 hours away.

lol people are so antsy about this patch that if it doesn't live up to the wait and hype, i think everyone will explode.

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Originally Posted by Colino

"Tomorrow" means the next day, which is 24 hours away.

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i dont remember yoshi saying that, players said that(such as myself)

all he said was the letter was sent to the translator

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

do people also like to make things up, they never told us itd be within 24 hours

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If there's no reason to be negative/butthurt/upset/pessimistic/etc you have to make up a reason to be, that's the MO of these forums.

Specially considering:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post566818

The only mention of tomorrow was when it would be sent. Not posted. Therefore there's no problem here.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

If there's no reason to be negative/butthurt/upset/pessimistic/etc you have to make up a reason to be, that's the MO of these forums.

Specially considering:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post566818

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yep, thats pretty much it
and notice how he says its being sent to the translator tomorow, not that itl be out tomorow

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

They really dropped the ball this past month.

1) tell us the patch would be delayed by 2 weeks.
2) lack of lodestone updates
3) telling us the patch is delayed further AFTER telling famitsu magazine.
4) indicating a "letter from the producer" inthe next 24 hours, 48 hours ago....

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Sorry but I have to agree with this. You should be telling us the letter will be delayed before the deadline. I am sorry SE, but this line up shows you need to greatly improve your communication, because right now it is straight out terrible. I mentioned in my previous post that a simple sentence goes a long way, and I understand translation borders, but I don't believe it takes long to write "We need more time to translate".

I don't mean to complain and you all do a great job, but a lot of people do not agree with your methods of communication regarding letters and patches and simply talking to us when we have been waiting for an extremely long time for a patch on a higher basis really goes a long way.

Edit: I do take back one of my statements if I am off on how Japanese time works, haha.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i dont remember yoshi saying that, players said that(such as myself)

all he said was the letter was sent to the translator

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That is correct, but it's assumed by most that it doesn't take more than a day for the translators to get it done. So either they haven't finished translating it or they didn't receive it when he said they would.

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Originally Posted by Colino

That is correct, but it's assumed by most that it doesn't take more than a day for the translators to get it done. So either they haven't finished translating it or they didn't receive it when he said they would.

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assumption isnt fact though

i can assume all i want, but that doesnt make anything i say true

whats said is said, not what you assume to be said

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Originally Posted by Colino

That is correct, but it's assumed by most that it doesn't take more than a day for the translators to get it done. So either they haven't finished translating it or they didn't receive it when he said they would.

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There's the problem, you assume.

As disappointed as I am, I'm going to have to vote for TheVedis on this one. Usually patch letters are released in all languages simultaneously. So it's the "translation people", it may be a pretty huge letter and unless they're all done, it's not going to be released.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

assumption isnt fact though

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I never said or even implied the contrary.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

There's the problem, you assume.

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I used the word assume because that's obviously not the case. As stated later on in the sentence. Please read everything before replying with a one liner like that one. I never said assumptions are 100% certainty or anything else.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

As disappointed as I am, I'm going to have to vote for TheVedis on this one. Usually patch letters are released in all languages simultaneously. So it's the "translation people", it may be a pretty huge letter and unless they're all done, it's not going to be released.

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yeah, i want the info as much as the next person, but i can wait, its not like im not in game playing as i speak right now enjoying myself and working on stuff

i got a feeling this letter has alot to it anyway, not only will we probly get a ton of patch details, but itl have the raid info/videos too fi i predict correctly

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Originally Posted by Colino

I never said or even implied the contrary.



I used the word assume because that's obviously not the case. As stated later on in the sentence. Please read everything before replying with a one liner like that one. I never said assumptions are 100% certainty or anything else.

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actualy, you have, you keep saying you asumed it would be out therefore it should be out
thats treating it like it is a fact

just sit back, be patient, and the info will come in its own time(sometime this week, since patch is still on for next week unless something drastic changes)

I did read it. The only problem here is assuming at all since the only thing that was ever stated was it would be sent off (yesterday) to the translators, nothing more and nothing less, since it didn't say that it would be posted shortly after being received which it seems some people think.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

actualy, you have, you keep saying you asumed it would be out therefore it should be out
thats treating it like it is a fact

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No, I didn't say any of that. I won't go on with this because you obviously enjoy putting words (of doubtful grammar) in my mouth so I don't see a point.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

since it didn't say that it would be posted shortly after being received which it seems some people think.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm not contradicting or countering you, you're repeating what I said in a different form.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

So it's the "translation people", it may be a pretty huge letter and unless they're all done, it's not going to be released.

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At this point it may be. I'm hoping he's updated that table full of changes he used to put in the letters... I quite enjoy those actually!

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

They really dropped the ball this past month.

1) tell us the patch would be delayed by 2 weeks.
2) lack of lodestone updates
3) telling us the patch is delayed further AFTER telling famitsu magazine.
4) indicating a "letter from the producer" inthe next 24 hours, 48 hours ago....

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We are ALL going to DIE!

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Originally Posted by Colino

"Tomorrow" means the next day, which is 24 hours away.

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I could really care less when the producer letter is... I just had to point out the inaccuracy of your statement...
If it's 8am... and I am doing something at 8pm the following day (36 hours away), then I could indeed say tomorrow...

Once again... really could care less when the letter comes.... And honestly everyone over analyzing every single word is getting pretty annoying

but....

tl;dr technically tomorrow could be as short as 1 second away or as long as 47 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds (47:59:59) away

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Originally Posted by Rydin

tl;dr technically tomorrow could be as short as 1 second away or as long as 47 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds (47:59:59) away

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You're right, I should have said "at most 24 hours away". My bad.

Let's be thankful we're not still in the dark ages.

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Originally Posted by Answa

Let's be thankful we're not still in the dark ages.

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That was epic, cant stop laughing.

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Originally Posted by Answa

Let's be thankful we're not still in the dark ages.

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Yeah in fairness, at least we have a game to play now while waiting... lol

Thev? I thought you knew everything and we were getting the Producer Letter before March 1'st Japan time? Where you at on this bro?

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Originally Posted by Xelsiar

Thev? I thought you knew everything and we were getting the Producer Letter before March 1'st Japan time? Where you at on this bro?

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i expected it, but personaly, doesnt bother me still
im in game, playing having fun like always

unlike many, i have me some patience

? Never said I didn't. Been playing whole time as well. Just making my point as we didn't get a letter this month. Tyvm

Also, took you less then 5 mins to get back on subject. So .. Seems you are really scamming through forums more then playing lol

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Originally Posted by Xelsiar

Also, took you less then 5 mins to get back on subject. So .. Seems you are really scamming through forums more then playing lol

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im actualy getting ready for work, just finished getting an achievment at treespeak(quarry nodes) for 15 points!(im such a whore)

1790 achievment points now says i do play the game a whole damn lot lol

and its very easy to go back and forth while running from node to node even while gathering to post

You should really make use of that edit button there, Xelsiar.

^.^ thanks for the tip, starting Achievement Whore'ing myself

Nah, I'd rather just bother you, Since you seem to be "Grammar Police"

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Originally Posted by Xelsiar

^.^ thanks for the tip, starting Achievement Whore'ing myself

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achivement whoring is a full time job lol

especialy when you get into the grind achievments

Yea .. something about gathering 23000 nodes per class just gets me sick >.>

To assume makes an ass of you and me so lets not do that.

Personally I'm surprised we didn't get the letter today. All good thought.

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Originally Posted by Xelsiar

Yea .. something about gathering 23000 nodes per class just gets me sick >.>

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i dont mind cuz i think about all the materials ill get doing it

with mining ive gotten t1-4 done in ll
1-2 done in uldah
1-4 done in shroud already

and im well into all the rest i havent finished

and they fund my crafting achievments!

Ahahah. Yea the money made from it is ridiculous. Also, I'd say since it's taking more then 2 days to translate. There is a laundry list of things..

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It was 24 hours ago actually, do people forget they're in Japan and not necessarily talking about American timing?

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

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it is now 2-29-2012 11:01 AM nearly 48 hours after he said the letter would be translated in 24hr (tomorrow)

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

im actualy getting ready for work, just finished getting an achievment at treespeak(quarry nodes) for 15 points!(im such a whore)

1790 achievment points now says i do play the game a whole damn lot lol

and its very easy to go back and forth while running from node to node even while gathering to post

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How the hell do you have 1790?
I've got all 50's, all faction, all NM's, all camps, all quests
Hell I've even got 100,000 gil and kills with 4 crafting luminary and 1 gathering luminary and I'm at like 1350

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

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it is now 2-29-2012 11:01 AM nearly 48 hours after he said the letter would be translated in 24hr (tomorrow)

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are we really this nitpicky now?
I think it's time to step back and analyze yourself

so do this for me...

1. Go stand in your bathroom mirror

2. say "I just posted in the forum because Yoshi's letter took almost 48 when he said it should only take a day"

now tell me how you feel looking at yourself say that?
Do you feel good about that?

Now go explain it to your friends? Your family? the people at your job?
First of all... how many of those people would give a shit?
second... and more importantly... how many of those people would be worried about you at that point?