Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

It's usually the other way around, people complaining they get kicked but... had this sprout healer in brayflox nm that would just stand still, tank dying on some pulls. Then we wiped on last boss. I tried to repeatedly explain how it works, like he would need to move out of poison puddles, esuna the tank poison stacks so it's easier to keep him alive but all he did was stand still most of the time, tank and both of us dps kept dying eventually to poison ticks from toxic vomit debuff because he wasn't healing at all, not even the tank. I gave him 7 wipes and explanations, but he didn't even read chat it seems, felt bad but I had to vote kick if we ever wanted to get out of that dungeon ; ;

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Originally Posted by Rymi

Ok, I'm running leveling roulette, get tan tara deepcroft. Why why why does the pld proceed to three pull the whole dungeon with two sprouts as the dds??? We got through it thankfully, but...seriously when I all got is two healing spells and you don't even ask??? smh.

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Omg this happened to me. I think it was my second time running group content as CNJ? I warned at the beginning I was healer noob, so he took it slow at first. We also had 2 under-geared archer sprouts. I was practicing my stance-dancing and stuff, but I guess he's one of those tanks that thinks healers shouldn't have time to DPS, because after the 2nd mob he was like "I'm pulling big. Try to keep up." And then proceeded to sprint through the whole dungeon, dragging everything. I had to swiftcast a few cures while running to keep him up. D: I'm honestly amazed we didn't all wipe. DPS was awful (with 2 sprouts I expected it to be), so I tried to get a couple Aeros out here-and-there, but his HP dropped dangerously low when I tried (usually when I had to swiftcast another cure LOL), so I was basically a cure spammer for 10 minutes, watching my MP slowly drain towards zero. @_@

After he was like "Dude, you're gonna be a great healer. Half the time experienced ones can't keep me up on a pull like that." I felt no satisfaction, just wanted to go hide in a corner and cry. Spamming cure isn't particularly hard, but MP management and keeping the two sprouts alive in a sea of AOEs is! ;u;

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Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm

After he was like "Dude, you're gonna be a great healer. Half the time experienced ones can't keep me up on a pull like that." I felt no satisfaction, just wanted to go hide in a corner and cry. Spamming cure isn't particularly hard, but MP management and keeping the two sprouts alive in a sea of AOEs is! ;u;

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;_; S-Sorry... I feel bad since I've pulled 2-3 groups on low-level dungeons more than a few times myself, including Tam-Tara. I never really thought it was inconveniencing anyone, I just thought it made things feel slightly less monotonous >_< ;;;

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Originally Posted by Knahli

;_; S-Sorry... I feel bad since I've pulled 2-3 groups on low-level dungeons more than a few times myself, including Tam-Tara. I never really thought it was inconveniencing anyone, I just thought it made things feel slightly less monotonous >_< ;;;

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haha, I'm sure it can be fun. XD When I'm on my main I've got my abilities down to muscle memory, so it's not overwhelming since I can focus more. After I played WHM a few more weeks I felt a little more prepared for the chaos, but for my second run it was a little extreme LOL.

Had somewhat of a funny moment in a dungeon I did earlier.

Was doing Tam-Tara Deepcroft on my low level healer. We had two sprout DPS.

After the last boss died, the tank decided to impart some last words of wisdom on the two DPS before leaving:

"Please make sure your tank gets initial aggro and is able to securely hold it first before going in all nimbly pimbly".

I don't know why that made me laugh but it did.

i got all the coms on my BLM after sohm al (normal), and i don't know why.

I don't think i was pulling any extraordinary DPS because of how rusty i am (why is the BLM rotation so bloated anyway)

When i asked my fc mates why that might be, they asked: "did you move out of ley lines to avoid a mechanic?"

To which i responded "yeah, many times in fact"

and they answered with "that's why"

It was the day I saw the worst tank. It was 60 lvl roulette, Aetherochemical Research Facility. Miqote warrior as "tank". I am not familiar with war's skills, but it looked like this "tank" did not use ANY enmity-skills at all. He could not hold enmity even of ONE REGULAR MOB. So, ALL mobs and bosses was tanked by me (black mage). Healer was good enough to heal me. 2nd DPS was bard. As soon as we beat last boss we used /laugh in a friendly fashion. It was funny experience.

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Originally Posted by Rymi

Ok, I'm running leveling roulette, get tan tara deepcroft. Why why why does the pld proceed to three pull the whole dungeon with two sprouts as the dds??? We got through it thankfully, but...seriously when I all got is two healing spells and you don't even ask??? smh.

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I had a tank yesterday attempt to do full pulls every time. I say attempt, because they didn't notice that the healer had 9,000 hp compared to the DPS's 13,000 and the tank's 23,000. That poor healer just simply couldn't keep up due to their low ilevel. I actually had to point out to the tank that the healer had low HP, so they might want to do smaller pulls. Hilariously, instead of doing 2 half pulls from then on which is what I meant although admittedly wasn't specific about, he pulled every group singly. At least he stopped trying to pull the whole wad at once, but I got a chuckle out of the two extremes.

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Originally Posted by Averax

i got all the coms on my BLM after sohm al (normal), and i don't know why.

I don't think i was pulling any extraordinary DPS because of how rusty i am (why is the BLM rotation so bloated anyway)

When i asked my fc mates why that might be, they asked: "did you move out of ley lines to avoid a mechanic?"

To which i responded "yeah, many times in fact"

and they answered with "that's why"

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Or you happened to get a run with a pre-fab of 3 friends. I often run with FC members and we tend to queue in groups of 3 more often than not the way it works out.

Need to vent because I've never been so aggravated in my whole bloody life.

I've had the worst Stone Vigil run in forever. Had a sproutling tank with the "you don't pay my sub, so don't tell me what to do" attitude right off the bat.

He constantly criticized everyone, but mostly me because I dared to use AoE. And he couldn't keep aggro. And railed at the poor healer, who started off by throwing regen on him before each fight, until I advised healer to stop it. And tank rails at me that it's MY pet who is doing all the pulling. My pet pulls but healer gets all the aggro? And of course, when I reasoned with him, he does a "I've been playing this class for a while, that's what happens, you don't know what you're saying." And you know when someone says that, no advice, no matter how sound, will get through. Took a huge piss on the healer when he dpsed too. Got to the point where I was so annoyed by his constant bitching that I stopped AoEing altogether.

Buddy, if you can't handle tanking with AoE classes around, maybe you should look at a different job instead?

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Originally Posted by Rhyku

Had a sproutling tank ... when I reasoned with him, he does a "I've been playing this class for a while, that's what happens, you don't know what you're saying."

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Maybe it was a second tank job/class but still... or maybe he meant in another game?

Friday. Dun Scaith. Best summary of the group I can make is that Proto Ultima dropped to 40% before phase change. Pretty much everything was curb stomped. Sure there were a few hairy moments for D. Hollow at the end, but that does not take much to happen, it was still a one shot, and it was an awesome run.

Today, I was critting in Dun Scaith for 18k-19k. That was fun! Tanking, on the other hand, wasn't so fun. Especially not when I kept getting told to just pop Manaward/wall like they're some sort of Holy Grail that will magically protect me from death when the boss is smacking me around for 10k a hit.

Remember, kids: Too many Dun Scaiths a day drains your sanity away!

During one Diabolos Hollow fight in particular, I started taking bets on my death. Somehow, that fight ended with everyone in the party except me, on the floor. So apparently I can't even predict my own death accurately. Fun times.

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Originally Posted by tinythinker

Maybe it was a second tank job/class but still... or maybe he meant in another game?

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I had a look at him after the dungeon. He only had WAR levelled to 45 and obligatory lvl 15 gladiator.
I assumed he meant he's been plugging away at SV at that moment.

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Originally Posted by Rhyku

.... And he couldn't keep aggro. ....

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I pull aggro from tanks in low level dungeons frequently. I don't see it as a problem and expect it when the tank is barely at the gear level to run the dungeon. I've also never had any complaints from the tanks. All I do is cut back a bit on DPS and run the mob back to the tank. Sounds like your tank must of had feelings of inadequacy and was over compensating.

Being verbally abused by someone in PotD because I was interested in getting the silver chests and he only wanted to run through at breakneck speed... despite having 99 in both arms and armour. And THEN having my mentor status called into question when I reminded him that I just wanted to run it properly O.o

PvP duty but still duty finder. Did several runs in Shatter. One had me in a group with 4 WHM and another two healers. Our overall Alliance still did OK.

In fact most of the runs were decent with a few 1st place finishes.

But the last run of the night, my Alliance didn't seem to know or care that you win by capturing frozen tomeliths. I mean, alright, but the other Alliances seemed to know/care and actually had points :p It's very random what you get in those duties.

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Originally Posted by Alynn

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Sometimes I really wish there was a kick for trolling option.
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I would consider 'trolling' a form of harassment...

Oh geez back again soo soon :d

Ok, queue for trial roulette, get mog hm. Everything is going fine until a healer dies to idk. I swift rez them. They die again within 30 secs. I was like ok, whatever then... go back to attacking and dodging dmg somehow before my swiftcast cd is up the other healer and everyone else decided to get caught in huge blue aoe. I'm running out of it and one of dead tanks is like please help rez ppl. Maybe I'm being too logically for him because I'm not doing a hard rez while standing in an avoidable aoe. We get it done the second time and the tank dubs me as trash before i leave. Really can't please ppl unless you stand in aoes while doing some hard rezzing.

Not my story, but my FC mate who just returned two weeks ago.

My friend decided to do a leveling roulette on her WHM and got the Aery. Everything went fine until the last boss. She had forgotten to get in the bubble and died. Luckily they had a SMN to raise her and they cleared the fight, no other problems. Before he left, the tank went on about how he was comming the SMN because "the WHM was absolutely terrible." Ok, so...the level 55 healer with the returner sprout who hasn't healed the dungeon (and stated it was her first time healing the dungeon and that she hadn't done Aery in over a year) isn't quite perfect so they suck and should uninstall. All right then.

No, they were not a mentor btw (at least not PvE). They had no healers at 60.

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Originally Posted by Rymi

Oh geez back again soo soon :d

Ok, queue for trial roulette, get mog ex. Everything is going fine until a healer dies to idk. I swift rez them. They die again within 30 secs. I was like ok, whatever then... go back to attacking and dodging dmg somehow before my swiftcast cd is up the other healer and everyone else decided to get caught in huge blue aoe. I'm running out of it and one of dead tanks is like please help rez ppl. Maybe I'm being too logically for him because I'm not doing a hard rez while standing in an avoidable aoe. We get it done the second time and the tank dubs me as trash before i leave. Really can't please ppl unless you stand in aoes while doing some hard rezzing.

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Actually, I don't believe the EX versions are in trials roulette, just the 'hard' ones.

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

Actually, I don't believe the EX versions are in trials roulette, just the 'hard' ones.

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XD didn't catch that. been a long day.

-Rubs temples-

Queue up for Diadem and EM spawns immediately, so someone tells the party to go there ASAP. Coordinates linked and everything. People don't listen and get locked out.

Someone says something about people being elitists and I roll my eyes and focus on the EM.

We all go back to our main mission after, and people start to afk, but most of the party is there. I queued as SCH, me and the other heals buff everyone, and stand there next to our first mobs. All the buffs tick away, everyone continues to sit in silence, buffs tick away again.

Ok, whatever, these mobs are squishy, I switch to PLD, pull one and suddenly everyone is there again, and spring up to attack, we kill the squishy mobs and move on to doing fates for evaluation.

Someone starts to call out fates and lead.

Someone complains, a dps DRG "Isn't the tank supposed to lead?"

I agree with one comment and say "It doesn't matter who leads." I mean in my experience in the Diadem there's been no official leader, Tank, heals, dps, who ever steps up to lead does it and we get the mission done.

They reply "If you want to lead, why don't you tank?" I ignore it. XD I mean... I was already PLD at that point, didn't want to lead, just wanted to get the mission done. The tank still hadn't said a thing.

Someone else starts linking fates, most of the party follows and starts to get the fates done. Mind you this is like Thirty mins in at this point. Still working on the mission.

The tank leaves, having never said a word, and someone says. "Our healer bailed." I correct them, it was the WAR that left, I had changed to PLD and the other healer was now a DRG.

One of the DPS chimes in. "he bailed bc someone else swapped."

-shrugs- I don't feel bad, no one else was taking an initiative. I did. So I say as much. They were not doing their job, so I did.

"This content is less than 1 week old. You can swap jobs, but that doesnt mean you should. Maybe give some advice to a new person."

... A new person that never spoke a word or asked for advice and ignored when we linked the EM position at the start? -rubs temples- You want me to hold your hand?

They bailed with two others because apparently they were friends with the tank, leaving a group of four to finish the mission. Felicia bye! I'm not a mind reader and I'm not going to communicate with someone that is making no effort to communicate themselves.

:P We finished the mission easily after that, and I stuck around to do fates with other groups after.

I have no problem with taking things slow, I will do extra stuff for lowbie groups their first time through, I will pull one group at a time, I will give advice to people if they ask for it, or if they look like they don't know what they are doing.

I'm not your mom and I'm not gonna baby you. You want someone to help you, or play your way you have to let them know that you need help, otherwise I will play to make up for whatever it is you lack in whatever what I feel is needed to better the team. Diadem is not something in my Mentor roulette in which I know to look out for people that need help.

Had the opportunity to observe someone attempting to harass and shame an instance of Trials of the Matron today because the Emergency Mission came in and gatherers wanted to keep on gathering - especially when most of us were on parties with only 2 - 4 players left at that point. Stop, just stop. If people want to gather on the gatherer's entrance: LET THEM GATHER.

Wanted to give a shoutout to an awesome mentor I ran with today.

Did Gubal Library normal. Healer said she was new to the dungeon.

Right off the bat, the mentor tank was very welcoming and let the healer know to ask if she had any questions.

Since the healer wasn't super geared, the tank only pulled one pack at a time. So the run ended up going rather slowly. I didn't mind since the healer was new.

The rest of the run consisted of lighthearted conversation between the tank and the healer. The healer kept apologizing to me and the bard for slowing down the run. But she was doing great. She made a few first timer mistakes but that's OK.

When we got to the last boss, the tank took a good 10 minutes to explain every mechanic in detail to the healer to make sure she knew what to expect. We ended up wiping on the first try but got it on the next try.

So to this awesome mentor, if you're reading this, I wanted to thank you for going out of your way to help the healer like you did. And to the healer, if you're reading this, you did great!

https://i.imgur.com/Kb7mRS8.jpg

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Originally Posted by Meillquei

Wanted to give a shoutout to an awesome mentor I ran with today.

Did Gubal Library normal. Healer said she was new to the dungeon.

Right off the bat, the mentor tank was very welcoming and let the healer know to ask if she had any questions.

Since the healer wasn't super geared, the tank only pulled one pack at a time. So the run ended up going rather slowly. I didn't mind since the healer was new.

The rest of the run consisted of lighthearted conversation between the tank and the healer. The healer kept apologizing to me and the bard for slowing down the run. But she was doing great. She made a few first timer mistakes but that's OK.

When we got to the last boss, the tank took a good 10 minutes to explain every mechanic in detail to the healer to make sure she knew what to expect. We ended up wiping on the first try but got it on the next try.

So to this awesome mentor, if you're reading this, I wanted to thank you for going out of your way to help the healer like you did. And to the healer, if you're reading this, you did great and didn't slow down the run.

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Wut?
Im confused.

Weekly Mhach run

Went as Ninja.
No bonus.
DPS DPS DPS until I end up tanking Arachne Eve.
Boss down, next boss.
DPS DPS DPS until I end up tanking Forgall.
Boss down, time for the mini boss.
Surprisingly, I don't end up tanking (maybe because I was in Alliance A).
Ozma.
Without me realizing it, the other two Alliances are dead. We get swarmed by adds and meteors wipe us.
Next try. Everything goes smoothly.
Final boss.
One minute in and half of the raid is already dead. Dodging AOEs is really difficult, yoshida-sama, please nerf.
2/3 of those that are dead spend the rest of the fight watching us from outside the arena. GG.
We somehow finish the raid.

https://puu.sh/uIqD9.png

Seems like a normal Duty Finder run.

I got Baelsar's Wall for my morning expert, dungeon goes okay up til the final boss, MCH is rather undergeared sitting at approximately 17k HP, so they die a few times to his half-room cleave that pushes back, they say "Lag" in party chat. Then during the Lionshead phase with the swords, I always kill the sword I'm closest to as I'm a BLM/BRD, so I'd rather cast than move. PLD and MCH attack the middle one and can't even kill it before I kill mine and am already attacking the boss, they say nothing after the first sword phase. Second sword phase, I do the same thing: kill the one closest to me, while the middle one is still at 90%. PLD tells me "Kill the middle one always". We beat it, with the MCH dead because they can't avoid attacks. I tell the PLD that I'm a BLM and my priority is casting, if I can do that and avoid damage by killing the sword closest to me, it makes sense I'd do that.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

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Wouldn't it be better to kill the middle ohne and manipulate to the middle?

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Originally Posted by Legion88

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I could potentially lose a GCD that way, but I see no reason to do that in the first place, when killing one on the side also helps when he does his single-target knockback, you'd be pushed immediately to a safe spot rather than a potentially dangerous spot. (I say potentially because some people aren't as fast as others in moving back)

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I could potentially lose a GCD that way, but I see no reason to do that in the first place, when killing one on the side also helps when he does his single-target knockback, you'd be pushed immediately to a safe spot rather than a potentially dangerous spot. (I say potentially because some people aren't as fast as others in moving back)

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I'm not gonna make a big deal out of this, but by this logic, healer, tank and the other dps wouldn't know which sword you, as a caster gonna take down because you could be standing anywhere within the area. So either they need to drag their feet away to you after you've killed the sword, or they kill another sword their ways which is closest to them (they failed to so that).

This reminds me a lot of one BLM in xeltaphol that won't stack and died to the stacking damage mechanic because noone bothered to stack with the blm that stood so far away from the boss, or the blm didnt even bother to come to us despite having manipulation..

P.s. Just some perspective..

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Originally Posted by Faliandra

Wut?
Im confused.

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Lol that's what happens when I try typing at 3 AM. Fixed it.

Oh my god. Tried Bard in Feast last night. I've been mostly healing, got my Goten and Raigo on AST, Wolf in White Robes II, working on my Gloria Ignition Key, and last night our team had 4 healers so I switched to BRD, which I've been meaning to try, quickly set up my pvp skills, and went in.

5 kills, 0 deaths, 9 assists on my very first try. ...then I had to go in as tank for the rest of the night. But oh man. I cannot wait to Feast as a Bard again.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I always kill the sword I'm closest to as I'm a BLM/BRD, so I'd rather cast than move. PLD and MCH attack the middle one and can't even kill it before I kill mine and am already attacking the boss, they say nothing after the first sword phase. Second sword phase, I do the same thing: kill the one closest to me, while the middle one is still at 90%. PLD tells me "Kill the middle one always". We beat it, with the MCH dead because they can't avoid attacks. I tell the PLD that I'm a BLM and my priority is casting

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I'm a caster as well and can solo take down a sword if need be. You know which one I attack? The same one as the rest of the party. You know, to support and coordinate with the other players in the instance.

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Had the opportunity to observe someone attempting to harass and shame an instance of Trials of the Matron today because the Emergency Mission came in and gatherers wanted to keep on gathering - especially when most of us were on parties with only 2 - 4 players left at that point. Stop, just stop. If people want to gather on the gatherer's entrance: LET THEM GATHER.

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I thought the whole reason for Trials of the Matron was to fix the problem where some group members wanted to battle but part of the group took off to gather. This way birds of a feather can get grouped with like minded folks.

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Originally Posted by Legion88

Wouldn't it be better to kill the middle ohne and manipulate to the middle?

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It works out best if the boss and players can stay near the middle to allow more time to run to safe area during boss AOE. This also makes the middle sword the logical one to take down since everybody is already there. Not to mention it is easier for a group of random strangers to understand, "Kill the middle sword" as opposed to "Find the one I've targeted.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

I could potentially lose a GCD that way, but I see no reason to do that in the first place, when killing one on the side also helps when he does his single-target knockback, you'd be pushed immediately to a safe spot rather than a potentially dangerous spot. (I say potentially because some people aren't as fast as others in moving back)

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your gcd means ZERO if you wipe the party cause you refused to move. its like a mnk pulling a boss to avoid losing stacks. ill let them die cause its not their job to pull. Its your job as a dps to work WITH your team not attack the one you feel like

I have to share a glorious City of Mach run I just had. Party was balanced, our tank was the MT, had a few casters, a few melee, and a mch. My healing buddy was another ast, and I'm pretty sure he was the best buddy I had in a long time. Things just melted away, obliterated into the void. My buddy was on noct, I was on diurnal. No words were needed at all. We mainly did aoe cards and watched out for eachother. He would start his aoe balance and I would wait with my arrow ready. As soon as balance fell off, I tossed out my arrow, and we kept on like this the entire time. I watched over him when he went for the balls at Ozma, and he had shields up the entire run, we both dps'd a lot, it was a dream. Some died, it was unavoidable, but we got them back up very fast, rebuffed and shields up. There were cards just everywhere. I got out with 5 comms, quiet sure he got the rest, he definetly got mine.

If you read this Ezekiell, my little lala buddy, keep on the good work, it was truly a pleasure :)

I've just noticed we're on the same server, hopefully we meet again!

Just ran Titan Hard mode for some poetics. Party fell off so it was down to me, boyfriend, and MCH at 25%. We get Titan down to 15% and I tell MCH to LB. She doesn't. Boyfriend and a few party members tell her to LB. She doesn't. We weren't sure if she spoke English so boyfriend checks for her language and it was French. He suggested that sometimes when French people call for LB, they type "baguette". In a fit of desperation, I take his suggestion and I type "BAGUETTE" all in caps and she LBS at the exact moment.

Afterward, I asked bf where he learned that from (I took him seriously) and he said he was joking around. Pretty sure LB was a just a funny coincidence.