Please more housing wards soon. And no more FC/Private Hybrid.

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

My dream is a Shirogane large, but that's incredibly impossible unless they throw out like 10+ new wards. as it's a large by the hidden cave and near the beach.

Atm im gonna try for a lavender The Lavender Beds Ward 29 Plot 36 Large 40 000 000

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Oh that’s a nice one! :) Private river on the side… hope you get it!

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Oh that’s a nice one! :) Private river on the side… hope you get it!

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I hope so too sweetie! *hugs warmly and nuzzles* i truely do hope so! <3 *snuggles*

Hm..... im planing to make Tamago kake Gohan tonight.

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Originally Posted by Impia

5 now that we have Empyreum, but I certainly agree. My vote goes to Thavnair or Eulmore, personally.

Best of luck, I hope you get your dream large this time around.

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could you imagine eulmore housing? BC I CAN!
i'd die of glee

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

could you imagine eulmore housing? BC I CAN!
i'd die of glee

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That'd be pretty awesome! Not gonna lie! haha

I imagine Amaurot is pretty empty. it's still my favorite zone in the game

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

I imagine Amaurot is pretty empty. it's still my favorite zone in the game

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I do agree, but i honestly also would LOOOOVE a house in Solution 9 XD but that's just me being taken by the super high tech/advanced stuff.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

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Just my usual two gil lol clearly you’re happy with things exactly the way they are. Great! You do you! But other people want “more,” and by more I mean equal access to game features. And this is the space the devs have provided for players to request what they want.

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I have never said I am happy with the way housing is, I want more wards and have voiced it multiple times, I even talked about dynamic wards as the optimal system in my eyes because I dont think there's anywhere near enough wards, at least on certain worlds.

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Comparing housing to Ultimates as you do is a faulty analogy… one is RNG-based, the other is based on skill. The proper analogy is not big house to ultimate weapon, it’s having a house to participate in housing gameplay the same as being able to que for an Ultimate. Your skill determines if you “succeed” - design a pretty house or get a pretty weapon - not your participation.

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The point was that because something exists doesnt mean I should be getting it.

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Now if this was a free to play game, I’d get there being limited amounts for things. But we’re all paying a sub here. We all want equal access to content. You can currently have an apartment, an FC room, an Island AND a house. Those without a house due to the limited supply aren’t getting their money’s worth, and have every right to demand the the system be improved in a way that can open it up to all.

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Once again lol, nowhere is it mentioned on the game's guide or on the game website that you are owed a house because you pay your subscription, you pay your subscription to have a chance at getting a house via the lottery system, that's literally all you pay for in regards to housing, you arent guaranteed anything. Because the game website says that there are ultimate weapons doesnt mean I should get them for free, they have the right to complain, but ultimately it's up to SE to do as they want, some things are just not meant to be for everyone and that's okay if that's their vision of it, it is mine also to a certain extent at least regarding larges and mediums, I think everyone should be able to get a small though.

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Other people getting what they want takes nothing away from you. In fact, if everyone was able to, you’d probably find the small minority campaigning against multi-owners would just disappear altogether.

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Have you seen the terrible ideas thrown on this forum ? People saying that you should be able to visit instanced houses at placard in front of the house for everyone, that IS taking away from me, I dont need people appearing and disappearing out of the blue in front of the plot I have, people are throwing ideas that all have an impact on ward housing and would make it worse, so yes it would impact me. As for the multiowner hate, trust me, I couldnt care less, like no offense but people being purely jealous because of the work I put in is fine to me, I pay 10 times their subscription money every month, I work on the daily swapping around alts, crafting new items, doing submarines, decorating amongst multiple other things, if they want to be jealous of that, works for me, as I mentioned multiple times, if it's so easy to be a multiowner according to them, why not do it themselves ?

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And yes, we know about Dynamis… new servers for new players. The point is, there will never be enough houses per world for everyone that wants one. DC travel has made a mess of Dynamis’ debut, but eventually when enough players fill it, they’ll be in the same boat.

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We are not ANYWHERE near filling points, there are literally thousands and thousands of houses open and they arent filling,it's been months they are at 4k+ out of entire Dynamis.

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Now one area in which I think we have some minor agreement is that housing should scale with the player base. You favor dynamic wards, I favor instanced. And there’s no reason they couldn’t try either, now that they have cloud servers to play with. But personally I’d prefer instanced, for all the features they could add that ward housing currently prevents, such as having a plot that could be any size… start off with a small and be able to upgrade to any size, or downgrade back if you don’t like it or just feel like something different every once in awhile. And it could be a “generic” neighborhood-themed plot, so y’all can still feel special in your multiple Shiro 60s or whatnot. lol

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I have been saying for like 2 months that dynamic housing would at least give a small house to everyone, when a ward's small houses is entirely taken, a new ward opens, until everyone or close to everyone at least has a small house, not only does that fix people not having small houses, but it also opens more larges in the process, literally everyone wins, and regarding instanced we've already talked enough about it, it's a full agree to disagree from me because I just dont like the idea at a all, there are enough games with that feature as it is, let FFXIV be unique, and as I mentioned above, instanced housing would have an impact on ward housing one way or another, especially with the ideas thrown around on this forum if this is anything to go by.

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Tl;dr: other people want different things out of housing than you do, they have every right to put their requests to the devs. If you don’t like their ideas, fine, but why the need to shout them down? If they get the instanced they want, you can just not interact with it, like those Ultimates you keep bringing up.

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Once again, the ideas for instanced brought up on this forum all have an impact on ward housing, this has been mentioned not only by me but by a few other people as well when it was suggested amongst other things that you could "phase in" to your instanced house at every house placard, creating what is basically a bot environment with people teleporting in and out of absolutely nowhere.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

I have been saying for like 2 months that dynamic housing would at least give a small house to everyone, when a ward's small houses is entirely taken, a new ward opens, until everyone or close to everyone at least has a small house, not only does that fix people not having small houses, but it also opens more larges in the process, literally everyone wins, and regarding instanced we've already talked enough about it, it's a full agree to disagree from me because I just dont like the idea at a all, there are enough games with that feature as it is, let FFXIV be unique, and as I mentioned above, instanced housing would have an impact on ward housing one way or another, especially with the ideas thrown around on this forum if this is anything to go by.

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Honestly I’d be happy with dynamic wards if they actually did it, so more people could have a house on the server they’ve been playing on for years. The big pull for instanced for me is features we’ll probably never get in the wards due to their limitations, like more outdoor furnishings, or the possibility of scaleable plots, that could be any size and switched between at will. And honestly I just want more space to decorate. lol The agree to disagree on my end is that it could be done in a way that you wouldn’t even have to acknowledge it’s existence if you didn’t want to. My other A2D would be that everyone should expect to be able to have a house by paying their sub, without having to jump through extra hoops to do so. And if there was instanced, people could also have whatever size they wanted as well. Although I’m hopeful the housing mirage turns out to be what we’re assuming it is… so at least people could get the extra interior space they want. My preferred size is a small, so I don’t really have a dog in that fight, other than my hubby who wants an Empyreum large in the worst way!

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Once again, the ideas for instanced brought up on this forum all have an impact on ward housing, this has been mentioned not only by me but by a few other people as well when it was suggested amongst other things that you could "phase in" to your instanced house at every house placard, creating what is basically a bot environment with people teleporting in and out of absolutely nowhere.

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Yeah I was on that thread and I also voiced my dislike for that idea. But it doesn’t seem to be the most prominent idea thrown about here… most of us seem to favor some sort of apartment-style directory, either inside or outside of the wards, so we could go directly to our plots.

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Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra

Oh that’s a nice one! :) Private river on the side… hope you get it!

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Nr 13 on this new house! so here's hoping! doubtful but hopeful! <3

What is the best JAPANESE food dish you've had?

It's not a matter of housing lottery being a bad thing... its more a matter of supply and demand... I think Se doesn't do what it should by adding more wards... the situation could easily be addressed by creating a new type of ward and gradually remove the ones that stop being used.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

It's not a matter of housing lottery being a bad thing... its more a matter of supply and demand... I think Se doesn't do what it should by adding more wards... the situation could easily be addressed by creating a new type of ward and gradually remove the ones that stop being used.

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yup! agreed. But SE still does have to do something!

intresting how people are spamming stuff now days on twitter. Then again, atleast it's not a 0/32/0 xin zhao on league

I don't understand people going to crazy in the other threads. :(

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

intresting how people are spamming stuff now days on twitter. Then again, atleast it's not a 0/32/0 xin zhao on league

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Was just reading an article with statistics from a company that analyzes social media activity for businesses. Apparently over 30% of activity on the platform formerly known as Twitter is now bot activity compared to just 2% at this time last year. Other platforms are showing 0.7 - 2.3% bot activity.

Thanks to Elon Musk, everyone can now let bots have the greatest influence on their lives. Just what everyone had been asking for (if not the way they meant it).

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

I don't understand people going to crazy in the other threads. :(

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Always those who are bored and let others stir them up.

Just remember the forums are more entertainment than productive.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Was just reading an article with statistics from a company that analyzes social media activity for businesses. Apparently over 30% of activity on the platform formerly known as Twitter is now bot activity compared to just 2% at this time last year. Other platforms are showing 0.7 - 2.3% bot activity.

Thanks to Elon Musk, everyone can now let bots have the greatest influence on their lives. Just what everyone had been asking for (if not the way they meant it).

Always those who are bored and let others stir them up.

Just remember the forums are more entertainment than productive.

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holy crap... that's insane! 30% O-O that's so much for this ''I WILL REMOVE ALL BOTS'' thanks musk man. .-.



but yeah i just often think it's sad people arguing over others.

mhm! i guess so! i just dislike people argueing and being rude to others. ; x ;

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Was just reading an article with statistics from a company that analyzes social media activity for businesses. Apparently over 30% of activity on the platform formerly known as Twitter is now bot activity compared to just 2% at this time last year. Other platforms are showing 0.7 - 2.3% bot activity.

Thanks to Elon Musk, everyone can now let bots have the greatest influence on their lives. Just what everyone had been asking for (if not the way they meant it).


Always those who are bored and let others stir them up.

Just remember the forums are more entertainment than productive.

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Mao....skeptical abouts them numbers Jojoya put outs. Is widely known that Twitter massively underestimateds bot activity prior to Elon buying company. Is also known that Elon publicly stated that hims would be more transparent abouts such issues. Therefore Mao suspectings current bot estimates MUCH more accurates than old estimates from year ago. Probably took Elon that much times to get handle on real numbers. Even if really is more bots, if price of free speech is to has more bots, Mao willings to pay that price. Mao sayings this while Mao admittings Mao not so keen on Elon. Mao suspicious of someone whats want put hardwares inside Mao head.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Mao....skeptical abouts them numbers Jojoya put outs. Is widely known that Twitter massively underestimateds bot activity prior to Elon buying company. Is also known that Elon publicly stated that hims would be more transparent abouts such issues. Therefore Mao suspectings current bot estimates MUCH more accurates than old estimates from year ago. Probably took Elon that much times to get handle on real numbers. Even if really is more bots, if price of free speech is to has more bots, Mao willings to pay that price. Mao sayings this while Mao admittings Mao not so keen on Elon. Mao suspicious of someone whats want put hardwares inside Mao head.

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very true little Mao.

I just think it's kinda crazy, not going to lie

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

holy crap... that's insane! 30% O-O that's so much for this ''I WILL REMOVE ALL BOTS'' thanks musk man. .-.



but yeah i just often think it's sad people arguing over others.

mhm! i guess so! i just dislike people argueing and being rude to others. ; x ;

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I was raised with manners so when I see others get disrespectful answers when they could easily get a more respectable one I'm left with 2 choices... either the people in question were deprived of oxygen too long and have possible brain damage or their IQ barely keeps them from forgetting how to breathe.
As you can see out of respect I added no names and pointed no fingers despite pointing out an obvious fact. If people are intellectual or wise, they will never give people rude personal replies so yes I agree with your post. We should always treat one another with the respect people deserve, its basic human decency.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I was raised with manners so when I see others get disrespectful answers when they could easily get a more respectable one I'm left with 2 choices... either the people in question were deprived of oxygen too long and have possible brain damage or their IQ barely keeps them from forgetting how to breathe.
As you can see out of respect I added no names and pointed no fingers despite pointing out an obvious fact. If people are intellectual or wise, they will never give people rude personal replies so yes I agree with your post. We should always treat one another with the respect people deserve, its basic human decency.

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Looks like someone's angry everyone thinks their ideas are absolutely terrible.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Looks like someone's angry everyone thinks their ideas are absolutely terrible.

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Should see his actual topics where he outright accuses people of going after him for his opinions

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Originally Posted by SXTC

I was raised with manners so when I see others get disrespectful answers when they could easily get a more respectable one I'm left with 2 choices... either the people in question were deprived of oxygen too long and have possible brain damage or their IQ barely keeps them from forgetting how to breathe.
As you can see out of respect I added no names and pointed no fingers despite pointing out an obvious fact. If people are intellectual or wise, they will never give people rude personal replies so yes I agree with your post. We should always treat one another with the respect people deserve, its basic human decency.

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You keep telling yourself that. You the type of person who gives their opinion then accuses others of acting a certain way when they don't blindly agree with you.

I have a feeling you are one of the trolls on the forums who got bored in the general chat and decided to create issues elsewhere for laughs.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

You keep telling yourself that. You the type of person who gives their opinion then accuses others of acting a certain way when they don't blindly agree with you.

I have a feeling you are one of the trolls on the forums who got bored in the general chat and decided to create issues elsewhere for laughs.

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Even if I rarely agree with his suggestions, I've never gotten the impression he's a troll.

hm.

it's feeling more like a battle ground. :( not what i wanted for this thread.

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

hm.

it's feeling more like a battle ground. :( not what i wanted for this thread.

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It's the forums. It could have gotten way worse

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

It's the forums. It could have gotten way worse

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Well.. it's my first major post on this Forum. and sure a lot of what i wrote was out of anger and sadness... but i just don't wish to leave my friends and what not, to move to a diffrent data center to get a house you know. ; x ;

and i've heard as much that the forums are insane.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Was just reading an article with statistics from a company that analyzes social media activity for businesses. Apparently over 30% of activity on the platform formerly known as Twitter is now bot activity compared to just 2% at this time last year. Other platforms are showing 0.7 - 2.3% bot activity.

Thanks to Elon Musk, everyone can now let bots have the greatest influence on their lives. Just what everyone had been asking for (if not the way they meant it).....

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To be fair to Musk; the explosion of access to machine learning and the sudden lapse in Bitcoin mining has resulted in a LOT of garage AI's being used for all sorts of stuff like botfarms. Apparently PokerStars.net players are now apparently majority bots...playing against bots actually.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

Mao....skeptical abouts them numbers Jojoya put outs. Is widely known that Twitter massively underestimateds bot activity prior to Elon buying company. Is also known that Elon publicly stated that hims would be more transparent abouts such issues. Therefore Mao suspectings current bot estimates MUCH more accurates than old estimates from year ago. Probably took Elon that much times to get handle on real numbers. Even if really is more bots, if price of free speech is to has more bots, Mao willings to pay that price. Mao sayings this while Mao admittings Mao not so keen on Elon. Mao suspicious of someone whats want put hardwares inside Mao head.

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*Chips Mao while she sleeps*

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Well.. it's my first major post on this Forum. and sure a lot of what i wrote was out of anger and sadness... but i just don't wish to leave my friends and what not, to move to a diffrent data center to get a house you know. ; x ;

and i've heard as much that the forums are insane.

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You'd only be giving up your friends if you stopped playing with them. Data center travel makes it very easy to continue to play with friends.

I hop between data centers a lot on my characters. Unless I'm doing some sustained gathering from timed nodes or have need to be checking my retainers frequently, being on another data center to play is not a problem. You may not have access to FC chat or home world linkshells but you can join cross world linkshells on other data centers. Or if your FC is anything like my FCs, we do more talking in Discord than in game so it's not really noticeable.

You can always test what it's like by making a temporary character on another data center then travel back to Crystal to level while talking with your friends. The only caution I would add is that data center travel is likely to be highly congested for a couple of weeks when Dawntrail releases (if not shut down completely because it can't handle the traffic). On the other hand, if you choose a Dynamis world for your character, you can avoid the 5+ hour log in queues that Mateus will almost certainly have as soon as early access for Dawntrail starts.

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To be fair to Musk; the explosion of access to machine learning and the sudden lapse in Bitcoin mining has resulted in a LOT of garage AI's being used for all sorts of stuff like botfarms. Apparently PokerStars.net players are now apparently majority bots...playing against bots actually.

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I'm not trying to blame him specifically because I don't know how far he's stepping into actual operations of the platform as opposed to giving a general "squeeze more money out of this" to those he's given operations control to.

But it is very strange that it's a problem that third party analysts are seeing just with X and not with the others. You would expect to at least see a similar trend across all the other major social media platforms, even if not to the same degree, if it was just an explosion among bot operators in general. Someone has fallen asleep at the switch - or been laid off - and management isn't following up.

*hugs everyone*

I still say we need A LOT more wards.

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

I still say we need A LOT more wards.

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for what exactly do "we" need more wards?

are you speaking as player or as multiowner?

can you be please more specific in that wish?

what datacenter?
what type of ward?

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Originally Posted by MAJRIS

for what exactly do "we" need more wards?

are you speaking as player or as multiowner?

can you be please more specific in that wish?

what datacenter?
what type of ward?

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Oh as a ''player'' without a house, i moved from Balmung to Mateus to play with friends and be in their FC and enjoy their FC and all that, and as a Roleplayer.

Datacenter: Crystal. As for Wards... i'd say, individual wards, FC wards, but could be instanced, but it depends on what we'll be told by SE ultimately of course. :)

right now i do NOT have a house, on any character on my account and i've played since 1.0.

I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you will get yours soon. /pet /pet

Photo is taken from low-pop server and wards are mostly empty with few solo or minimal fc's.
Pink is shell fc's solo owned by character less than level level 3.

https://i.imgur.com/hlTlJbn.png

33% of larges not used by real fc's
28% of mediums not used by real fc's
75% of smalls not used by real fc's

So far I can't see the reason to keep adding new wards just to produce dead cities like this.

If ever, then personal wards only.

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Originally Posted by MAJRIS

I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you will get yours soon. /pet /pet

Photo is taken from low-pop server and wards are mostly empty with few solo or minimal fc's.
Pink is shell fc's solo owned by character less than level level 3.

https://i.imgur.com/hlTlJbn.png

33% of larges not used by real fc's
28% of mediums not used by real fc's
75% of smalls not used by real fc's

So far I can't see the reason to keep adding new wards just to produce dead cities like this.

If ever, then personal wards only.

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Personal wards could be a fun thing honestly.

But we will see what is happening in the future. *nod nod*

I just hope SE will sincerly do something with the housing system. :'(

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Originally Posted by Yuniko

I just hope SE will sincerly do something with the housing system. :'(

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Something that could be a small, but drastic change to housing wards would for us to have a glam dresser in our houses.
The same ones we use at inns.

I'd like more wards and new city themed wards; Like Sharlayan, Eulmore, the Crystarium, Thavnair, the Moon - something else. And I hope it doesn't look as rushed as The Empyreum does

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Originally Posted by HeyMcFly

Something that could be a small, but drastic change to housing wards would for us to have a glam dresser in our houses.
The same ones we use at inns.

I'd like more wards and new city themed wards; Like Sharlayan, Eulmore, the Crystarium, Thavnair, the Moon - something else. And I hope it doesn't look as rushed as The Empyreum does

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Yep i agree.

Empyreum is.... just lame. It's gray, snowy, stone. That's it. <.<

Welp... bid on some houses this time let's see.