GIL Sellers Are on The Rise

Just logged in and there are two bots spamming chat from two different gold selling companies. They are literally spamming chat every 30 seconds each. You can't even read what actual players are saying before the spam pushes their text off screen.

Their names are:

Erasmus Greavert
LIIIIIIIIIIIIII or Lllllllllllllll with 14 I's or lower case L's
Hard to tell if it's capital I's or lower case L's

I'm on Coeurl.

Please ban these scumbags!

P.S. is there an easier way to report these gold sellers in game?

the sad thing is with all the Server login issues we are experiencing, I can see the gilselling option, powerlevelling something people may look to, to 'catch up' with friends.

rampant gilselling was one of the primary reasons I stopped playing FFXI, I very much hope they take a proactive approach to this issue.

I am using the in-game System to report every Gil seller i see in the chat log as a Cheater.

I started getting /tells from these bastards recently as soon as I get one they are instantly reported, these guys really grind my gears. I am quite capable of making my own money tyvm hell, I don't use cash shops for f2p games lol I just do those stupid surveys for free points and then sell my shit lol only f2p I play now tho is digimon masters online, cause I love me some digimon lol

Ragnarok, uldah right now...

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4121/0t0y.jpg

Hyperion yesterday the same RMT was spamming for hours (SE needs to at least react a bit faster)

how do you actually report them? I've blocked them, but I see no option for reporting. I was surprised, 2 of them had NORMAL names...the rest were all like kaljfdlkaj kjwelkjrwl. So annoying...

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Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont

Ragnarok, uldah right now...

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4121/0t0y.jpg

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They all need to be rounded up and shot.

5 pages and nobody even thought to talk about reporting the RMT? In the game it's "Support Desk" -> "contact us" and they also have a page on the SE management somewhere in the contact us page.

SE will never do anything if they don't get report, it's not like there is a GM monitoring every area of every server. And It's not because SE didn't do much (they still banned them but slowly since the game was.. err you know) about RMT in v1.0 that they won't do anything in ARR.

Pretty sure most if not all of these gil sellers don't actually have no gil to sell excluding the RMT from 1.0....SE really dropped the ball with those, I remember seeing one levebotter go on for months, till the end of 1.0.

Reported it and his many lalafell thms minions

It seems I haven't been lucky enough to encounter one, or maybe they are just on the NA/EU servers?

I havent had any tells from them but I have seen them shouting in Gridania and Ul'Dal...... we need a blacklist/report option from right clicking on their name...

Bumping this.

SE really needs to get the RMT situation under control. I realize they still have a lot of issues to work out but it's starting to get pretty bad already and it's only the first week. Every city on Goblin had 3 or 4 RMT shout spammers, there are gathering bots and someone on Reddit has already reported being hacked.

GM's in game don't seem to be doing anything about it despite several people reporting them. Maybe if the RMT's named themselves Ass Cancer.

In the later years of XI, I think SE did a great job with RMT with the special task force. Need to get that over to ARR as soon as possible.

I wish they could add a button in game to report them as goldsellers directly.

Dang PC hackers...

Greetings,

We apologize for those of you who have experienced real money traders spamming gil selling advertisements. We are in the midst of addressing this and appreciate your patience during this time.

As there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

In the mean time, we would appreciate it greatly if you could report these violators through the in-game Support Desk feature where they will be handled as soon as possible, as Senior Game Master Jhanaka has mentioned below:

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Originally Posted by Jhanaka

If you should see any of these types of shouters, you are free to place a GM Call through the System Menu. As we do not have an option to directly report these spammers to us, we ask you choose the "Harassment" option in the Support Desk menu.

We ask that you include the name of the shouter along with a sample of what they had said. The GM staff will then receive your call and address the spamming; we will be sending you a message instead of offering a live contact to ensure your game play is not interrupted.

We are looking into methods to directly report them to us without using the Support Desk system, but we ask for you to bear with us until we get the tools developed. Your feedback is greatly appreciated and we will continue to work with you to stop this type of violation as quickly as possible.

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Originally Posted by Camate

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Not going to lie, this is dumb beyond belief. You are literally saying players are too stupid to right click on someones name and add them to an ignore list without accidently ignoring their friends/innocent strangers.

just make it so you have to "confirm" the choice with a popup /done

In the time SE lets them do ther thing, SE also tracks and bans supporters. When they got heavy on XI the amount of banned gil buyers sky rocketed.

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Originally Posted by Medieval

Not going to lie, this is dumb beyond belief. You are literally saying players are too stupid to right click on someones name and add them to an ignore list without accidently ignoring their friends/innocent strangers.

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Yea its like you cannot undo a mistake?

I'm starting to seriously question the Devs' decisions...

3 Suggestions on how to curb RMT:

1. Allow an option in the System Config menu to "Disallow Tells from people not on your Friend List"
*RMT are still ingame, taking up a slot on the server for "real" players. Does not do anything if the RMT /Shouts


2. Increase the Blacklist capacity beyond 200
*RMT are still ingame, taking up a slot on the server for "real" players. Still annoying to see them /Shout in the 1st place before you Blacklist them


3. Allow players to purchase 30 days worth of game time as an *in-game item* for 15 dollars RL cash, but can only be SOLD INGAME for gil
*RMT is no longer profitable, as anyone and everyone can make "instant gil" legitimately

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Originally Posted by Medieval

Not going to lie, this is dumb beyond belief. You are literally saying players are too stupid to right click on someones name and add them to an ignore list without accidently ignoring their friends/innocent strangers.

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I agree that the word dumb should be used for this reply, but not because of the solution of accidentally misclicking, but because they aren't actively working on each server to silence the gil seller themselves. I personally feel it's a great burden to send in a report. How many reports will you receive before action is taken? And by that point, will it even matter if we send in one by then?


Way to show your concern with the player economy* SE.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,
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however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

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You could also just add a confirm dialog after clicking the Blacklist option, people aren't this stupid to blacklist their friends then. Wish this could get added real soon.

You can accidently block a friend. I was clicking invite to party on one Person and chat scrolled and it invited other person. At least both were friends and knew invite was an oops.

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As there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

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I find this a bit of a weird statement, you don't need to reinvent the wheel neither is this rocket sciene.

It's really simple just a check box 'do you want to ignore person x yes/no'


It's obnoxious to type a name like Fgfgh JgfIIIDW especially if you get whispered by 6 of them.
I think most people an handle the right mouse button pretty well, I think you could give them a bit more credit hehe.

I would like to report them but the Report window won't lemme type in the title or subject fields. I have been wishing cancer on the RMT peeps.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

We apologize for those of you who have experienced real money traders spamming gil selling advertisements. We are in the midst of addressing this and appreciate your patience during this time.

As there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

In the mean time, we would appreciate it greatly if you could report these violators through the in-game Support Desk feature where they will be handled as soon as possible, as Senior Game Master Jhanaka has mentioned below:

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The last few times I tried to report one, the in-game support desk was broken and you couldn't write any text

I've actually received well over two dozen gil spam tells already on Odin. I just blacklist them most of the time, but the one thing that was alarming to me was the amount of phished accounts that were used to send the tells (judging by the fact that the spammers character had an actual name, instead of just random keypresses). At least one quarter of those spam tells came from phished accounts.

So, what I'm saying is, please don't go to the advertised websites. Beside the obvious reason, they are more than likely phishing sites anyway.

I saw a large group of archer bots just standing in a area killing anything that came in range

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Originally Posted by Wavytiger

just make it so you have to "confirm" the choice with a popup /done

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Doesn't work that way, we had tons of people complaining about "Accidentally vendoring my Paragon's Helm" despite the fact there's 3 popups confirming it.

I think I have ten to fifteen people on my blacklist. All of gilsellers. >>; And it is rather annoying trying to blacklist them, at least in shout on the ps3.

They are on Balmung as well. Got 3 /tells. Took screen shots. Tried to submit report through game. Game froze, PS button would not even work, had to turn off PS3 manually. So, now I don't use the support desk, still take screenshots, and blacklist them. Unfortunately, don't know how to post images.
Not sure if posting them on my blog on Lodestone would get me banned or not.

What do I do when a Gil seller spams me:
1 - I answer F*** Y**, it costs nothing to be polite.
2 - I report him and send a copy of his message
3 - I copy his web address, target it with my laser of justice and call for an orbital strike.. yaya it works.. in a couple of minutes his website is happy to have a rest. So give some love to Gil sellers websites peeps.
Cheers

I honestly can't say I blame them for the concern of miss clicking something. I mean after all they are having to deal with whole lot of people who failed to read/select the right button when registering the game.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ervice-account (here is a huge thread full of said people)

Blacklisting them is only a Band-Aid solution, I'm more concerned what will be done to keep them out of the game all together.

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Originally Posted by Camate

there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

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Like what you discard an item, you check the box before hit the "OK" button. How does that sound to you? :D

Blacklist is my friend.

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Originally Posted by Wavytiger

just make it so you have to "confirm" the choice with a popup /done

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Yeah that's a great idea...something like when you are deleting a character. Pop-up will appear it says "Are You sure you want to blacklist this person?" Add button is grayed out until you check the check box the "Yes blacklist this person" then the Add button becomes clickable. It prevents people from accidentally blacklisting a friend, party member, or FC member.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Doesn't work that way, we had tons of people complaining about "Accidentally vendoring my Paragon's Helm" despite the fact there's 3 popups confirming it.

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I would argue and, in fact, have always argued, that it was not despite but because of there being three popups for absolutely everything you did in 1.0. It went from being a useful anti-mistake tool to "holy spam just get out of my face already" and I believe that many people who are attentive and conscientious as a general rule simply lost to attrition at that point.

I would also point out that ridiculous UI lag was to blame. My highlight was on a different item when I clicked sell, I knew perfectly well I wanted to sell the item that was highlighted, and the 1.0 UI lag caused the server to think I clicked a different item. (I never had a paragon's helm, but there were occasions where this happened to me with items of lesser import.)

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Originally Posted by Camate

As there have also been requests for an "Add to blacklist" option when selecting someone's name from the chat log, we would like to look into addressing this as well; however, this opens up the possibility of accidentally blacklisting people by misclicking etc., so we'd like to take the time to look into this carefully.

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Oh please. That's what confirmation dialogues are for. And you can.... unblacklist? No that difficult. In addition, add a "view search info" to right clicking names in chat while you're at it. It's 2013 people!!

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Originally Posted by Medieval

Not going to lie, this is dumb beyond belief. You are literally saying players are too stupid to right click on someones name and add them to an ignore list without accidently ignoring their friends/innocent strangers.

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And I'm not gonna lie either. I think you and the 23+ people that are liking your post are being a little too dramatic.

It's also not how I read Camate's post.