Now that we know that there will be regional servers

I'm being kicked out of Gungnir. I incited too many riots for my own good.

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Originally Posted by Cedri

I'm being kicked out of Gungnir. I incited too many riots for my own good.

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Aww, sorry to hear that... Riots are bad for FFXIV's health. v.v

I'm so torn about this. I can see the benefits of having regional servers, latency, etc. However I have always loved being able to play with people from all around the world in both XI and XIV. And while this will still be possible, it will be less comon with regional servers.

That, and I have many friends on my current server that will likely end up on different regional servers, and its a shame to lose contact with them, should I choose to relocate as well.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

I've never played anything with ping that high anyway even in my sort of unfavorable location (except maybe 1.0). I'd be willing to bet that most of the time people get latencies so high that they actually become notable, it's because of something on their end (say, their ISP, active downloads/uploads or other users in their network or something) rather than just the actual server's location.

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How many other games have you played where you had no choice but to connect to servers on the other side of the world? Especially australia- there, pings to almost anywhere outside of S.E.A. are very high- often 400ms or more, which makes playing high intensity games like FPSes nearly impossible.

Yes, most MMORPGs are not so severely impacted by lag, but when PvP becomes involved, the issue is more significant. If you have no intention of ever doing so it won't usually matter much, but if you do...

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Perhaps you believe any issues you've faced with PVP in the past have mostly attributed to your lag.

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No- I'm not stating this because I use the excuse or have the problem. I'm stating it because lag very well can be a genuine problem, and saying "Most ppl use it as an excuse" is an attempt to trivialize an issue that in various situations can be very real.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How many other games have you played where you had no choice but to connect to servers on the other side of the world? Especially australia- there, pings to almost anywhere outside of S.E.A. are very high- often 400ms or more, which makes playing high intensity games like FPSes nearly impossible.

Yes, most MMORPGs are not so severely impacted by lag, but when PvP becomes involved, the issue is more significant. If you have no intention of ever doing so it won't usually matter much, but if you do...

No- I'm not stating this because I use the excuse or have the problem. I'm stating it because lag very well can be a genuine problem, and saying "Most ppl use it as an excuse" is an attempt to trivialize an issue that in various situations can be very real.

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If by pings you mean the start of the pvp then that can be resolved by having a 3 second timer after both players have arrived in the area...

How many games have you seen with servers in south america? The most common option for me are NA servers, which are on the other side of a kind of big continent. No matter which server I pick, I will end up with "high" latency.

And I already mentioned another game besides an MMO: LoL (League of Legends), but in any other game, the same applies. Heck even in Street Fighter, which requires a good connection between both players, I've rarely ever had any issues, and those that I've had were, again, most likely due to something on my (or the other player's) end.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

How many other games have you played where you had no choice but to connect to servers on the other side of the world? Especially australia- there, pings to almost anywhere outside of S.E.A. are very high- often 400ms or more, which makes playing high intensity games like FPSes nearly impossible.

Yes, most MMORPGs are not so severely impacted by lag, but when PvP becomes involved, the issue is more significant. If you have no intention of ever doing so it won't usually matter much, but if you do...

No- I'm not stating this because I use the excuse or have the problem. I'm stating it because lag very well can be a genuine problem, and saying "Most ppl use it as an excuse" is an attempt to trivialize an issue that in various situations can be very real.

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Good point.. Were you in the Alpha, though? When I tell you guys I didn't notice any lag I am not over exaggerating lol. It was so surprising how smooth the game played for an Alpha. If that's any indication of the final version I am truly impressed.

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Good point.. Were you in the Alpha, though? When I tell you guys I didn't notice any lag I am not over exaggerating lol. It was so surprising how smooth the game played for an Alpha. If that's any indication of the final version I am truly impressed.

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I agree with you.. >.< DAMN NDA!!! Hurry up SE and give us beta then we will realize how smooth the game is. xD

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Originally Posted by Zehira

I agree with you.. >.< DAMN NDA!!! Hurry up SE and give us beta then we will realize how smooth the game is. xD

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Yep, it was as smooth as Dave Chapelle's botoxed testicles!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Niqote

There is that, but there is also the latency to consider... will we get a better result from a JP or NA server in Australia/NZ/Indonesia?

I can't wait to relearn the game and go for my SMN relic just to see the difference in X-Ifrit's cracks XD

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I found not much lag in 1.0 up until a few months before the end, so maybe JP best for us? Would have to try the NA one out to be sure.

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Originally Posted by Nix

You come to a US server so I can give you a box of Moro! ( ・∀・)っ旦

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lol ^^ I will bring some moro bars and some L&P with me :p

I go where my Linkshell goes. The decision is entirely up to them.

For what it's worth though, I liked Excalibur, and I do hope we stay there. I can understand my LS picking an NA regional server though.

It kinda saddens me, however. I loved the multi-cultural aspects of FFXIV's older version, even if there was a bit of segregation.

Duty Finder is supposed to kinda get rid of that issue with not having enough people for a certain event on server anyways though. So we'll see in the Beta.

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Originally Posted by DubstepNinja

lol ^^ I will bring some moro bars and some L&P with me :p

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☆⌒ъ(｀ー゜) I'll hold ya to it!

This character will stay on the Excalibur server, because None of my real life friends play mmos. And since I have legacy status I have the option to make one on a regional server. So not really a big deal if you have legacy and want to start again with the story and server. Just my thoughts.

I'm definitely moving to a regional server. Most everyone I play with all lives in the same area of the world, so it makes the most sense for us to do that.

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Originally Posted by Kirito

since Yoshida did say, himself, that if there is an issue with a server in Japan they can fix it rather quickly since SE will be under control of those servers. However, the servers overseas aren't a part of SE at all so it could mean longer server maintenance and a longer time for repairs for if the servers fails.

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While I do not disagree with SE having sole control of their servers means they can do whatever they like whenever they like, but at the same time, you are worrying about professional data centers where 24x7 uptime is what they are best at.

InterNap, for an example, is one such company that is (??) used by Blizzard (haven't check if still is, but did start back in the D2/Starcraft/Battle.net days). They have multi-tier 1 backbones, auto-rerouting, 24x7, and 99.9% uptime. I doubt SE have the same infrastructure with their data center.

Edit: Just learned CCP (EVE-Online) also uses InterNap. CCP is based in Iceland, and the InterNap data center they uses is in London, their avg online players 1-1/2 yrs ago was around 20-25k users.

Unless there is a major SW issue, which will effect ALL data centers no matter where you are, I do not foresee vendor hosted regional centers is going to have more downtime then the JP HQ center.

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I personally won't be playing on regional servers. Playing people within the same region is like trying to learn something new in an echo chamber, imo. I like that I get can on to a server at 3am and talk to people from japan or the uk. Learn how their approach to the game is, what their strategies are, etc.

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No more of this bs? Count me in.

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Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze

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No more of this bs? Count me in.

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Then don't play online games at all.

Lag is usually the most common excuse that some people use whenever something goes wrong. In any game.

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Then don't play online games at all.

Lag is usually the most common excuse that some people use whenever something goes wrong. In any game.

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Not really? The most common excuse is it's someone elses fault, nice try though.

Would be nice to have forum communities and shells organize themselves to decide what server they'll move to when 2.0 launches, just like they did when 1.0 launched.

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Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze

Not really? The most common excuse is it's someone elses fault, nice try though.

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I wouldn't think so... I remember there was one hamlet where everyone that were going to start hamlet suddenly had lag right before it began and almost everyone assumed it was their fault and apologized to the party...

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Would be nice to have forum communities and shells organize themselves to decide what server they'll move to when 2.0 launches, just like they did when 1.0 launched.

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Not that many people use the forum, unfortunately, I've see none of my link shell members in this forum at all yet...

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Originally Posted by Kirito

Not that many people use the forum, unfortunately, I've see none of my link shell members in this forum at all yet...

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No no, I don't mean this forum. When 1.0 launched, Killing Ifrit, Allakhazam, FFXIV Core, Eorzeapedia, the continent of Europe, and the RP Community organized themselves in such a way that they chose where they would be. The KI people chose one server, the alla people chose another, the FFXIV Core guys chose one, the Eorzeapedia guys did as well, and so on.

I can't wait to get away from the overwhelming amount of JP players on my server. As my region will not have a server, I will be following friends to a US-based one. And there I will build my empire and wrap the world around my finger by whispering sweet nothings into the commoner's ears while giving them a gentle touch.

i think mostly people gonna pick the server that best help them :)

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Originally Posted by Hanemakikaze

Not really? The most common excuse is it's someone elses fault, nice try though.

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Depends on the game, in traditional mmorpgs, fps, and action games I'd say lag is the far more common excuse. Blaming others pops up far more frequently in rts and moba games.


I'm just gonna stay on Balmung, there'll be seven hells in a pot before my lazy bum starts from scratch.

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Originally Posted by KaiTBF

I'm just gonna stay on Balmung, there'll be seven hells in a pot before my lazy bum starts from scratch.

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You get a free server transfer (Maybe not at launch, but not too far off after iirc from what's being said) but we do get one! So if you do feel like you want to move, you can without having to start from scratch :)

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Originally Posted by Klefth

Then don't play online games at all.

Lag is usually the most common excuse that some people use whenever something goes wrong. In any game.

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An excuse being common doesn't mean it's not ever valid.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

An excuse being common doesn't mean it's not ever valid.

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What I mean by saying that though, is that even without lag, there will still be people that cry about it like in, you know, any other online game.

Tough decision to make, I am going to miss a lot of friends, but I know I will make new ones. Based on what my group ACP thinks is what we will do!