Why must chocobos be our companions

I like what they're planning with the chocobos, but I really did enjoy the companion's we had in 1.0. I wish they could've done more

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Originally Posted by Aldora

I would also like to see Red XIII/XIV as a Mount + ("Path") Companion in this game. (^_^ ) I mean, if Cait Sith and Tifa can ride horsey with Red? Why can't we?

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'cus it would be f**kin stupid?

OP & Mijin clearly never played FFV or the others mentioned

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

OP & Mijin clearly never played FFV or the others mentioned

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I've played all FFs and all the Tactics actully!

I just suggested that we could have different choices for our path companions then it only being different chocobos. I would rather have moogle/gobbue companion or maybe a Beastman (goblin?).

Im one of those players who likes to be different from other players. I played pup in FFXI. So the idea of my companion being/looking the same as everyone is something dislike. Especially since everyone is going to use the whm chocobo or perhaps the Tank chocobo. Since those two are just going to be so much more useful then the DD chocobos. I wouldnt gimp myself just to be different since im a min maxer as well.

At least in FFxi you could make any race any job. All the whm chocobo will just be different colours wearing the same af. They will all have the same animations and sounds.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...ns-d3f0j6u.jpg

That or similar as a mount as a rare drop from an endgame boss, or something of a status symbol not easily obtained.. Heck yes I'd be all over that! Tell me that would not be badass when ppl see you on that. Also make it an achievement to obtain it! Also diff colors & 10% faster than regular mounts. I'm over chocobos, that's like entry level mounts. Chocobo in AF & hats? Nah!

No! Where as Chocobos are a recurring element in FF games, Red XIII is his own character, and should stay in his own game.

I would like to have chocobo to be our main mount, have more option to play with.
and leave other mounts as cosmetic mounts.

We are playing "Final Fantasy"

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

OP & Mijin clearly never played FFV or the others mentioned

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Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I didn't experience it... In fact, the best way to decide you don't like something is to experience it first hand. This isn't green eggs and ham ffs.

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Originally Posted by Kam

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'cus it would be f**kin stupid?

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Then explain to me why you think it would be "f**kin stupid"? I mean, we are riding on a bird that can't fly. That reminds me of another bird actually...

http://www.women-unlimited.co.uk/wp-...9/osterich.jpg

And we can equip it with armor too!

Next to that we see Goobbue's bobbing around with people on their heads. We will see more different mounts (probably the Arhriman as well) in 2.0.

We are playing a (Final) Fantasy game, so why would it be "stupid" to add Red as a mount/companion in a (Final) Fantasy game?

I, for one, totally agree with OP.
I'd really like to fight with a Magitek Armor or an Arihman.
Sure, I like chocobos but I much prefer Magitek Armors.
In my opinion, it has more potential as a fighting companion than a chocobo, and I don't want to hurt the precious chocobo I will have raised.

But seriously, it comes down to having the choice. If you guys like chocobo, fight with them. If OP and I prefer another companion, allow us to be satisfied too. It won't hurt your play style, guaranteed.

P.S: If it's still not possible, at least, allow me to outfit my chocobo with a full Magitek Armor!

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Originally Posted by Aldora

We are playing a (Final) Fantasy game, so why would it be "stupid" to add Red as a mount/companion in a (Final) Fantasy game?

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Because he's a f*cking person!
It's NOT the same as having chocobos, ahrimans, etc. in different FF games, because those are just races.
Whitemage, Bard, Dragoon are just professions.
OF COURSE you can have them in different kinds of worlds.
Nanaki is absolutely different though. He's an actual character, wanting to have him in FFXIV is the same as saying "When human sidekicks make their comeback to the game, can I have Cloud from FFVII as my companion?:D"

Also, Nanaki is one of my favorite characters from FFVII and I find it very degrading that people want him as something to use for riding around on:mad:


I don't mind having more options for mounts and companions than just our chocobos (would be too hard to implement them before ARR launch though), but I'm strictly against using characters from other FF titles as companions in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

I'd really like to fight with a Magitek Armor or an Arihman.
Sure, I like chocobos but I much prefer Magitek Armors.

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pokemon here we come or what ;XD "Arihman GOOO!!!" "MORBOLUS GOOO!!" "Pikachuuu GOOO!!" .. oh no.. its a different game.

then let square enix introduce a new class/job like engineer or some kind of that ;XD
for me its disturbing enough the imagination that every soloplayer is walking along with a chocobo companion all the time.

I like the concept of fighting alongside chocobos I guess, but it feels weird. EVERYONE is going to be soloing with a chocobo? EVERYONE is suddenly a pet class? What about in a party? Is an 8 man party 8 people and 8 chocobos? Do they take up a party slot?

Need more information, but initial thoughts are bleh.

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Originally Posted by Neomarl

Here's a better idea: kill and eat your chocobos.
Since you'll be able to make a choco farm in 2.0, why not make it so you can mass produce chocobo meat? I bet they taste delicious and would give good stats.

It would ruin my immersion if you can't kill your own companion.

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tastes like chicken, nothing new

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Originally Posted by Nakiamiie

I, for one, totally agree with OP.
I'd really like to fight with a Magitek Armor or an Arihman.
Sure, I like chocobos but I much prefer Magitek Armors.
In my opinion, it has more potential as a fighting companion than a chocobo, and I don't want to hurt the precious chocobo I will have raised.

But seriously, it comes down to having the choice. If you guys like chocobo, fight with them. If OP and I prefer another companion, allow us to be satisfied too. It won't hurt your play style, guaranteed.

P.S: If it's still not possible, at least, allow me to outfit my chocobo with a full Magitek Armor!

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Look i loved the idea of having a path companion like XI, you could give gear and power level your companion, although i played FF tactics and was nice fighting with the chocobos, they had singular attacks, i would have prefered keeping my own path companion of FFXIV to help me in every fight but with a better AI, but i hope they add that option so i can raise my mithra companion from scratch, it was nice having your companion in the CS doing its part like telling you she/he found something, dirty talking etc.

Of course if they add that they should give us the option of creating our own path companion like we do with our characters or at least 60% of those options, of course a small chain of introduction quest, be able to customize gear and give orders with an extra bar, idk with 4 skills it can do according to the class your companion has.

I see the path companion as a whole different topic of discussion. One I agree would like to have back in the game if its indeed made better then we have today. I can wait on that subject.

As for chocobo mounts that fight by our side and have gear. There has been no explanation as to really how this is going to work. Just that it will and they can do some stuff. I would personally like to be on the mount when combat engages and be able to swing my sword from atop the bird. My fear is this will not happen. I wish it would. I also would like it to be more into the pvp arena like jousting but not so precise. Just let me and my sparring partner go at it while mounted.

My 2nd fear is that the fight along side you won't be as badd ass as actually fighting. I am afraid it might be more passive like the npc's in ffxi. Yes they casted but not on your command. The bird might hit the enemy but I don't think it will be this great big over whelming "alright mofo's I'm bad now I have bird to level my toon". I bet you will not notice a huge addition to your solo play style. Exp has and will mostly be based on the skill of the player doing the quest or leve. Seeing as the bird imo won't be fully engaged in the party as a person or player character might be I see no sense in doing
gimp exp ala ffxi element in this game. THIS IS NOT FFXI. Just deal with it. lol

why cant we ever have nice things....

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Originally Posted by Atoli

Because he's a f*cking person!
It's NOT the same as having chocobos, ahrimans, etc. in different FF games, because those are just races.
Whitemage, Bard, Dragoon are just professions.
OF COURSE you can have them in different kinds of worlds.
Nanaki is absolutely different though. He's an actual character, wanting to have him in FFXIV is the same as saying "When human sidekicks make their comeback to the game, can I have Cloud from FFVII as my companion?:D"

Also, Nanaki is one of my favorite characters from FFVII and I find it very degrading that people want him as something to use for riding around on:mad:


I don't mind having more options for mounts and companions than just our chocobos (would be too hard to implement them before ARR launch though), but I'm strictly against using characters from other FF titles as companions in FFXIV.

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http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Ahriman_2.jpg
As a mount? Isn't that a flying mount anyway??

Anyway, Red XIII is not a person, but a character. Maybe we could say his ancestors came to help us defend the new FFXIV world, therefore doesn't have to be Red/Nanaki himself, but similar design. Make it a rare mount so not everyone is riding it, obtained in-game & an achievement of it's own. 10% extra mount speed, diff colors coats. That would give people something to aim for and bragging rights.

Chocobos w/ armor is about it, in ancient times people put armor on horses for protection. I don't think chocobo casting animation is gonna look cool, I mean just how cool can you make a chocobo? Everyone soloing w/ a chocobo sounds lame. I'm assuming it'll be like FFXI companion where they disappear once you join a party. I hope they are taking this much time w/ developing character strenghts, customization & progression. Rather a character I can build up than a chocobo. Sounds like more market wards to me, more time spent on things that aren't major.

What does this mean for chocobo breeding anyway? Okay colors and..? How about speed, endurance, bravery. Making you WANT to seek out top breeders so you can have chocobos that will run faster, further distances & less likely to run off, maybe try to protect you. Not just for a green chocobo alone (which is still cool, but how about more!). Perhaps these breeders can also repair harnesses, etc.

Behemoth Chocobo looks lame, BLM choco looks lame...

Ya know what I liked about the prev FF games i liked? Cool original weapons! Cool costumes.. not chocobos

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Originally Posted by Crevox

I like the concept of fighting alongside chocobos I guess, but it feels weird. EVERYONE is going to be soloing with a chocobo? EVERYONE is suddenly a pet class? What about in a party? Is an 8 man party 8 people and 8 chocobos? Do they take up a party slot?

Need more information, but initial thoughts are bleh.

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Chocobos take up a party slot, they are mostly just to help you out when soloing or filling in a party slot if you need, say, a member or two to get light party/full party bonus. Obviously having an actual player will be better than an AI companion if you have the option.

I've said it in the hundreds of other thread that prop up about this topic and having a massive diverse list of "Options"

You have one of two choices.

1. You have a Chocobo companion, developers can spend alot of time on making these companions unique so not everyone is running around with the same companion

2. You have a larger selection, but with less variaty or detail that would be put into a single unit.

It's the same with "OMGAZ I NEED ALL THE RACES!" I'd rather them have a smaller animation and set of models to design gear around so they don't need to retool 20 different races for one hat. Likewise with animations, FFXI small race pool gave us race specific animations so the races not only looked different but they moved different and felt special. You can't stretch yourself too thin or you start to lose polish and end up with a muddy mess.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I've said it in the hundreds of other thread that prop up about this topic and having a massive diverse list of "Options"

You have one of two choices.

1. You have a Chocobo companion, developers can spend alot of time on making these companions unique so not everyone is running around with the same companion

2. You have a larger selection, but with less variaty or detail that would be put into a single unit.

It's the same with "OMGAZ I NEED ALL THE RACES!" I'd rather them have a smaller animation and set of models to design gear around so they don't need to retool 20 different races for one hat. Likewise with animations, FFXI small race pool gave us race specific animations so the races not only looked different but they moved different and felt special. You can't stretch yourself too thin or you start to lose polish and end up with a muddy mess.

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You sir, deserve a star for the day! Well put! (as much as I dislike chocobo companion, u are 100% right)

I find it odd that they decided to go this route with chocobos. If there were any battle companion FF fans would have voted to dress in AF gear and have them fight alongside them, it would have been Moogles. As much as I love chocobos, I'm a tad disappointed.

I love the idea of jobs for chocobos. Hell, In FFF: Chocobo's Dungeon, Chocobo had a whole bunch of different jobs ranging from black mage to dragoon to scholar to dancer (yes, dancer).

I can't believe people are actually complaining about this, but I guess I should because people complain about everything on these boards.

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I find it odd that they decided to go this route with chocobos. If there were any battle companion FF fans would have voted to dress in AF gear and have them fight alongside them, it would have been Moogles. As much as I love chocobos, I'm a tad disappointed.

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I'm totally suprised you said "should have been moogles!". yup. Totally suprised.
hopefully the sarcasm gets through...

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I've said it in the hundreds of other thread that prop up about this topic and having a massive diverse list of "Options"

You have one of two choices.

1. You have a Chocobo companion, developers can spend alot of time on making these companions unique so not everyone is running around with the same companion

2. You have a larger selection, but with less variaty or detail that would be put into a single unit.

It's the same with "OMGAZ I NEED ALL THE RACES!" I'd rather them have a smaller animation and set of models to design gear around so they don't need to retool 20 different races for one hat. Likewise with animations, FFXI small race pool gave us race specific animations so the races not only looked different but they moved different and felt special. You can't stretch yourself too thin or you start to lose polish and end up with a muddy mess.

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Exactly this, but this isn't the right generation of MMORPG gamers to expect them to understand this, they're used to having 700 mounts that's not unique in any way and races and classes that all play the same.

"too much chocobo" LOL. I do like your ideas on other companion/mount pets(?) and their subquests though.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I love the idea of jobs for chocobos. Hell, In FFF: Chocobo's Dungeon, Chocobo had a whole bunch of different jobs ranging from black mage to dragoon to scholar to dancer (yes, dancer).

I can't believe people are actually complaining about this, but I guess I should because people complain about everything on these boards.

I'm totally suprised you said "should have been moogles!". yup. Totally suprised.
hopefully the sarcasm gets through...

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This is probably why it's easier to perceive:
http://uploadpic.org/storage/2011/Rs...poFV5OhMey.png
(Taken from someone's sig)

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

I love the idea of jobs for chocobos. Hell, In FFF: Chocobo's Dungeon, Chocobo had a whole bunch of different jobs ranging from black mage to dragoon to scholar to dancer (yes, dancer).

I can't believe people are actually complaining about this, but I guess I should because people complain about everything on these boards.

I'm totally suprised you said "should have been moogles!". yup. Totally suprised.
hopefully the sarcasm gets through...

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The only ones complaining about this likely are the ones who want this to be just another MMO and not a FF game.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

The only ones complaining about this likely are the ones who want this to be just another MMO and not a FF game.

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I think that is an unfair assessment of those who thought the companions would make more sense as moogles. (I have played the chocobo centric games) But I still see a moogle wearing armor and using weapons better then imagining a cosplay chocobo who looks like you just abused the animal by stuffing on your old AF gear.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

This is probably why it's easier to perceive:
http://uploadpic.org/storage/2011/Rs...poFV5OhMey.png
(Taken from someone's sig)

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actually, its from a realm reborns concept art, they got lots more too ;)

Well, to me, a yellow chocobo is a normal chocobo, able to peck, chocobo rush etc. green chocobo is healer, red chocobo is tank, blue chocobo is dot and white wind, black chocobo is flying (perfect dragoon companion) but well, the af gear on chocobos .... no thanks. Customizing gear on chocobos like plates etc though, yes :) i want to breed details on the bird, not breed a set of clothes :P

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Originally Posted by Elexia

The only ones complaining about this likely are the ones who want this to be just another MMO and not a FF game.

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I was more alluding to the fact that the poster I quoted had petitions and such for moogles in his sig.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I think that is an unfair assessment of those who thought the companions would make more sense as moogles. (I have played the chocobo centric games) But I still see a moogle wearing armor and using weapons better then imagining a cosplay chocobo who looks like you just abused the animal by stuffing on your old AF gear.

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It's why earlier it was said when you think of companions in a FF game you think of Chocobos and Moogles more than anythin.

We already have chocobos wearing armor. What do you think barding is?

Im fine with chocos as companions, but i'd rather have my horny mithran partner back. Like the fellows on XI.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

Anyway, Red XIII is not a person, but a character. Maybe we could say his ancestors came to help us defend the new FFXIV world, therefore doesn't have to be Red/Nanaki himself, but similar design. Make it a rare mount so not everyone is riding it, obtained in-game & an achievement of it's own. 10% extra mount speed, diff colors coats. That would give people something to aim for and bragging rights.

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I don't care how amazing of a game A Realm Reborn will be. If this happens, I quit. Red XIII being a mount, that is.

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

I don't care how amazing of a game A Realm Reborn will be. If this happens, I quit. Red XIII being a mount, that is.

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Wow, Idk much about RedXIII, so what's with such strong feelings? Yeah I'm no hardcore FF fan. I've only played some of FF7, FF10 extensively, FF11 & some FF13.

maybe not red XII itself, but one of his species could still be acceptable...
anyhow fighting chocobos are an extremely old new, you're too late on the party to whine about it. The current barding are for fighting, even if now are just for show

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Originally Posted by Mujen

Wow, Idk much about RedXIII, so what's with such strong feelings? Yeah I'm no hardcore FF fan. I've only played some of FF7, FF10 extensively, FF11 & some FF13.

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Because it's the equivalent to adding Sephiroth in as a companion. I don't mind the mount system they have planned for the future, because those are all mobs in the current FF. Stuff like Magitek is acceptable, because it actually exists in this game. Adding in Red XIII as a mount would be no better than the retconning Blizzard constantly does with WoW.

inb4 "Well we're getting Crystal Tower and Golden Saucer so lol enjoy your fanservice game!" It's not the same as ripping a fucking character model from another FF so shamelessly.

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

maybe not red XII itself, but one of his species could still be acceptable...

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Well gee, let's just add Viera and Bangaa and Ronso and just say that they were in hiding all along!

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Because it's the equivalent to adding Sephiroth in as a companion. I don't mind the mount system they have planned for the future, because those are all mobs in the current FF. Stuff like Magitek is acceptable, because it actually exists in this game. Adding in Red XIII as a mount would be no better than the retconning Blizzard constantly does with WoW.

inb4 "Well we're getting Crystal Tower and Golden Saucer so lol enjoy your fanservice game!" It's not the same as ripping a fucking character model from another FF so shamelessly.



Well gee, let's just add Viera and Bangaa and Ronso and just say that they were in hiding all along!

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in game lore, chocobo itself isn't native of eorzea. They could release a new expantion with a new continent and fill it with bangaa, viera and ronso, and still be totally legit :||

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Originally Posted by Ruisu

Because it's the equivalent to adding Sephiroth in as a companion. I don't mind the mount system they have planned for the future, because those are all mobs in the current FF. Stuff like Magitek is acceptable, because it actually exists in this game. Adding in Red XIII as a mount would be no better than the retconning Blizzard constantly does with WoW.

inb4 "Well we're getting Crystal Tower and Golden Saucer so lol enjoy your fanservice game!" It's not the same as ripping a fucking character model from another FF so shamelessly.



Well gee, let's just add Viera and Bangaa and Ronso and just say that they were in hiding all along!

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Except....they have ripped some things "shamelessly" already and will be doing so in the future (did you see Typhoon?) I get what you mean but they are straight ripping things so don't be surprised, this is a fanservice game, they already straight ripped Magitek models and you're not bitching lol.