When Criterion got no rewards but the mogstation wont miss a beat

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else

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God forbid people want horizontal progression in their video game.
You don't get to decide when a game is for someone or not just because you play games differently. You are not an authority on anything and nobody has to abide by your arrogant, exclusionary standards.

Does anyone remember how many dungeons per patch we got pre-covid?~

Yeah, atleast they never had to slow down the pay store~

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Originally Posted by Oizen

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...30b126edc0278a

Thats a pretty cool set they just added, wish we could unlock via gameplay.

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I'm glad savage criterion is getting nothing. That content is ridiculous and shouldn't be encouraged it should be removed

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Originally Posted by Reap00

This game has an absolutely ridiculous amount of outfits you can acquire in game. Complaining because the company puts some on the store for profit is absurd. The company exists to make money.

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"Won't someone please think of the multi billion dollar company?"

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

How to tell players haven't messed with glam in game for 500 Alex.

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You realize your character is currently wearing a couple of pieces of overpriced mogstore glam, right? Don't really think you can be calling someone out for saying a lot of mogstore glam looks better than in-game releases.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else

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Don't think you understand how multiplayer games work. You need multiple people for a run.

Some people are motivated by the experience alone. A lot of people aren't, and you have to understand that. Players that are motivated by experience alone need other players to go into content with, and they would not have nearly as large of a pool of players if there weren't other incentives.

Ultimates don't just give a shiny weapon. They give a title, and although a lot of the community regards the titles as a joke, for many people it feeds their egos. These people are important for filling in parties.

Crit/Crit Savage tries to appeal to the same community. You've got shiny weapons, and a mount for regular crit, but only a handful of people are doing it. There's definitely a reason.

Meanwhile quality content that could go towards getting players into content goes onto the mogstore. Might be a poor connection on other peoples parts, but it's understandable that people are upset.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Have to be honest here. If you need rewards to even do the content. Then it's not for you. Criterion is supposed to be harder content for people who want a challenge.

I mean, next ppl gonna whine that ultimates only give a weapon and nothing else

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This post just boggles my mind. This kind of content was dead on arrival with just "Materia" rewards. If you want to justify doing this content should net you basically nothing then I pray no developer takes your post seriously. Ultimate weapons and title are far greater rewards than Criterion ever had on top of a Interesting fight with all sorts of mechanics instead of the dull "In" Out" Stack" Spread" repeat.

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

This post just boggles my mind. This kind of content was dead on arrival with just "Materia" rewards. If you want to justify doing this content should net you basically nothing then I pray no developer takes your post seriously. Ultimate weapons and title are far greater rewards than Criterion ever had on top of a Interesting fight with all sorts of mechanics instead of the dull "In" Out" Stack" Spread" repeat.

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Titles can go either way

Necromancer is legendary but unique titles certainly didn’t help SCOBS

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Titles can go either way

Necromancer is legendary but unique titles certainly didn’t help SCOBS

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Titles can be personal Preference. Weapon glamour and the fights are more enjoyable than the slug fest 23min dungeon run.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Titles can go either way

Necromancer is legendary but unique titles certainly didn’t help SCOBS

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Titles are very hit or miss. I think most people (myself included) don't even read them or don't know what they're from. So i personally don't really care for them.

We got some weapons. We got a mount from each criterion. They said we will get a mount for completing all 3 of them as well.

It's not really true that there are no rewards. You just don't like the rewards they put.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

You realize your character is currently wearing a couple of pieces of overpriced mogstore glam, right? Don't really think you can be calling someone out for saying a lot of mogstore glam looks better than in-game.

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And we've reached the point of attacking each other for wearing cashshop glam. Truly the best mmo community

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Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura

This post just boggles my mind. This kind of content was dead on arrival with just "Materia" rewards. If you want to justify doing this content should net you basically nothing then I pray no developer takes your post seriously. Ultimate weapons and title are far greater rewards than Criterion ever had on top of a Interesting fight with all sorts of mechanics instead of the dull "In" Out" Stack" Spread" repeat.

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Criterion savage isnt lacking in rewards now. It's the same reward structure as ultimates have: a unique weapon for glam per clear and a title. Still no one did aloalo savage. The problem isnt rewards, it's content design.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We got some weapons. We got a mount from each criterion. They said we will get a mount for completing all 3 of them as well.

It's not really true that there are no rewards. You just don't like the rewards they put.

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Weapons weren't here for the first 2 Criterion so tell that to the people who completed it. Only Materia and a mount were available so those were dead within a week. If they plan to just stick to these only few rewards they won't see much player involvement as little to none

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

And we've reached the point of attacking each other for wearing cashshop glam. Truly the best mmo community

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You made multiple doompost claiming how much you hate the games community and the current state of the game so what's wrong with pointing out mogstation has been getting a significant increase in items since endwalkers compared to any other point in the cash shops existence. But it's ok for you to insult the entire community for the current state of combat and for you disliking the current state of the game and blame the community for how much you dislike the game currently.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

I'm glad savage criterion is getting nothing. That content is ridiculous and shouldn't be encouraged it should be removed

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It's just not meant for YOU...and that's okay. Not everything is going to be made to suit your tastes, mine or anyone's.

There's nothing wrong with the content itself, the rewards are absolutely the issue otherwise more people would probably be running it. Any video I see on Criterion is how much of a waste of time it is to do when the rewards don't match up to the time investment put in. At the very least, doing multiple runs of it doesn't provide impactful enough rewards to encourage that to happen.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Titles can go either way

Necromancer is legendary but unique titles certainly didn’t help SCOBS

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It's oversaturation to a certain extend.

We get flooded with so many random titles every expansion, many of them obtained by basically just existing, that people have stopped caring. I can't remember where I got 1/4th of my unlocked titles nor do I care to check.
Since barely anyone knows where a certain title came from there is little "prestige" assotiated with them and most of them are consequently of little value to people.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We got some weapons. We got a mount from each criterion. They said we will get a mount for completing all 3 of them as well.

It's not really true that there are no rewards. You just don't like the rewards they put.

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Well no actually. It doesn't give a weapon. It gives an upgrade to P11's weapon. And thats an important distinction because if you don't clear the savage tier it effectively does not give you a weapon.

The biggest problem, why the store items are so much 'better', is because they all are Lv.1 and without any job/class restrictions.

Of course there are really cool glam pieces in the game!!
But all with level restrictions and class or even job locked. That makes them less fun to use.

Most problematic are the job locked ones. They very often look really cool. But how should we use an 'alchemist only' piece in the actual game? We can't even use this for the MSQ. Only can be used during crafting, roleplay or afk'ing in Limsa.

Also we don't have 1 glamour plate per job. That's why it's not possible to use job locked pieces with every job.
31, soon 33 classes and just 20 plates.

So... the store items are very appealing because they work with every job and every level.

At least it doesn't give extra stats like mobile games. So l am fine with it.

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Originally Posted by Eastwall

At least it doesn't give extra stats like mobile games. So l am fine with it.

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It's preferable to lose a finger than a hand, though I'd rather have neither happen in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

We got some weapons. We got a mount from each criterion. They said we will get a mount for completing all 3 of them as well.

It's not really true that there are no rewards. You just don't like the rewards they put.

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The mounts come from normal Criterion.

If you don't have a P11S augment, there is functionally no rewards from Criterion savage as Sil'dih and Rokkon don't have anything. I haven't heard of this mount for completion of all three savages, but it doesn't exist right now. Therefore, I have received no rewards. That's very silly. They don't make you return to the previous tier or to wait a couple of months to get your Ultimate weapons or your mount for completing P12S (if this savage Criterion mount will even exist in the next few years - still waiting on crafted weapons from ShB).

I would be singing a different tune if Aloalo dropped straight weapons like Ultimate. Sil'dih and Rokkon would still be useless after one clear, but at least Aloalo would have some meaningful reward to strive for.

Don't forget that the one reward IN Crit. Savage is the BLU Mage weapons, that if you don't do savage content for, you can't get for your BLU mage lol. Great spite design by SE.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

And the Happiness Set cannot cover it being a 'fantasy looking set'?

Not that I dismiss the negative sentiment about mog items, but coming over like there is nothing to go for in the game is absurd.

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That is ONE set man lol. ONE from nearly what, two years ago? And doesn't look nearly as nice as the Woodland Attire. Cmon now.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

You made multiple doompost claiming how much you hate the games community and the current state of the game so what's wrong with pointing out mogstation has been getting a significant increase in items since endwalkers compared to any other point in the cash shops existence. But it's ok for you to insult the entire community for the current state of combat and for you disliking the current state of the game and blame the community for how much you dislike the game currently.

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Point it out all u want but if that pointing out involves shaming other players for there purchase ur not helping the game at all. You're just being toxic

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Well no actually. It doesn't give a weapon. It gives an upgrade to P11's weapon. And thats an important distinction because if you don't clear the savage tier it effectively does not give you a weapon.

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Upgrade mat will be free soon. Also if you manage to clear crit savage, p11s is not going to be a problem for you.

I will forever say that the worst part about things in this community is that instead of just allowing people to be critical, we have to actively question why people are or come up with excuses. And it's becoming more and more apparent that people are more invested in thestatus quo over just having the 30+ mounts place in game as earnable rewards. These salf same people who will go out there way to say how other game companies are horrid for doing it, but will say the 30+ mounts on the mog station are fine, how The 124 outfits on the mog station are fine

Like, it's ok to just admit you're cool with shilling when it's something you like, you're ok with companies having horrid practices when it's a company you like. All game companies should be held to the same standard. All of them should get rid of cash shops, Loot Boxes, and Gatcha. It's a disgusting practice.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Upgrade mat will be free soon. Also if you manage to clear crit savage, p11s is not going to be a problem for you.

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Yes and no. Can you do P11S difficulty-wise when you're able to clear Criterion Savage? Absolutely
But do you have 7 other people to do it with or will you have to pug the raid tier and possibly get sandbagged for weeks by randoms?

The fact that the content makes you jump through hoops and clear a completely different piece of content first to get the reward you've earned is the main issue.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Point it out all u want but if that pointing out involves shaming other players for there purchase ur not helping the game at all. You're just being toxic

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If people feel shame when others complain about mogstation outfits, that's on them, not OP.

This game is like the extreme opposite of gacha games... You dont have to gamble but you cannot earn the premium currency for stuff in game so you can only pay real money for it.

Honestly not sure which is worse.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

Point it out all u want but if that pointing out involves shaming other players for there purchase ur not helping the game at all. You're just being toxic

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I have seen you be pretty toxic in some of your post and have even complained about mogstation yourself among other things about the game and it's community. Now your defending mogstation and telling people who are against it toxic for noticing a significant increase of outfits and mounts compared to the expansion you yourself have complained and been toxic towards others about. I guess me and others pointing out the mogstation increase are toxic haters who hate the game when we want actual content to supplement the things we grind in game. Not to mention you made a thread to stifle replies because you only want people that agree with you to post in your doom threads and have an echo chamber.

Probably something that will happen is that they will let people unsync the savage versions just so they can get the participation rates up or if they are really hard line about and they don't let that happen.