Gamerescape Interview: Summons, Chocobos, Train Tracks and Rocks

Exciting and demoralizing at same time. Why login to current game when everything will be better/easier in 2.0? For example, grinding on a craft to 50 in 1.xx seems like a waste of time and resources given 2.0s streamlined and stress-free (purportedly) design.

Also, I am still a little concerned about the leveling content for 2.0. I think the masses aren't big fans of party grinding like us FFXI vets, and Leves weren't viewed favorably. How will people level? I think with the shift towards dynamic events like seen in Rift and included in GW2, party grinding and leve quests will be a tough sell to the general MMORPG community (which we need to attract some of to ensure the longevity of this game). I hope they either add some other mechanism for exping or do a really good job of building infrastructure (and tutorials) for helping novices setup parties and engage in levequests.

Thoughts?

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There are no plans for using the jump for any elements of gameplay it’s just there for those that want to jump. You won’t be able to jump to avoid Ifrit’s attacks or anything.

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Funny thing is, we can actually do that now!

But I guess jump is just a dumb gimmick/emote there to appease ppl.

Having Ifrit, Garuda and Moogles wandering around large zones will be very interesting... Will you fight them were you find them? Or will they teleport players to a battlefield to fight?

If we fight them in a large zone, these fights will likely be very different from what we see now.

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Exciting and demoralizing at same time. Why login to current game when everything will be better/easier in 2.0? For example, grinding on a craft to 50 in 1.xx seems like a waste of time and resources given 2.0s streamlined and stress-free (purportedly) design.

Also, I am still a little concerned about the leveling content for 2.0. I think the masses aren't big fans of party grinding like us FFXI vets, and Leves weren't viewed favorably. How will people level? I think with the shift towards dynamic events like seen in Rift and included in GW2, party grinding and leve quests will be a tough sell to the general MMORPG community (which we need to attract some of to ensure the longevity of this game). I hope they either add some other mechanism for exping or do a really good job of building infrastructure (and tutorials) for helping novices setup parties and engage in levequests.

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Hopefully, we will see leves get an overhaul in 2.0, but even if they are only tweaked - I don't think newer players will have the same opinion of them that 1.xx players do.

For my part, I hope we have leveling options that include killing large mobs with lots of HP (Great Buffalo, Morbols, Treants, etc). If they match the exp:time to our current chaining system, people will likely flock to the more interesting battles -- I know I will.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

But I guess jump is just a dumb gimmick/emote there to appease ppl.

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and that's why i've been cons about this. Jumping with a purpose = ok, jumping because i have 2 legs = no.

I never really considered that the game would be technically down for up to a month between 1.0 and 2.0! That's a little disheartening :( Good interview, otherwise.

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Originally Posted by neorei

I honestly think 2.0 is years into the future, either we'll teleport or pass out or something, a world just become like this without any explanation.

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my friend had a theory that we are merely using the echo, to play out our own pasts. meaning... we're like an echo within an echo. E C H O C E P T I O N

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

and that's why i've been cons about this. Jumping with a purpose = ok, jumping because i have 2 legs = no.

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Yeah, I was against it too...

/lolimmersionjump

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Originally Posted by Doho

my friend had a theory that we are merely using the echo, to play out our own pasts. meaning... we're like an echo within an echo. E C H O C E P T I O N

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Your friend might be a bit late on that one.

But as a theory, it has some merits... However, depending on the amount of time that has passed between Dalamud's "impact" and the world of 2.0, it might have quite a few strange hiccups in the continuity vis-a-vis the existence of current NPCs in the 2.0 world (which will be a 99% certainty).

The question is, how do we go from where we are now - to a world that is completely overturned and then built up again (over years) and still has not just us, but Merlwyb, Cid, Yda, Curious Gorge, etc.?

It could be that Dalamud ends up hitting the planet in the past. Hey, maybe Dalamud is an echo itself... they have already established that this happened 50 years ago...

eh, its for another thread.

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

For my part, I hope we have leveling options that include killing large mobs with lots of HP (Great Buffalo, Morbols, Treants, etc). If they match the exp:time to our current chaining system, people will likely flock to the more interesting battles -- I know I will.

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I totally agree. Sort of like BAMs from TERA. Same exp/per hour just bigger/stronger opponents that require some strategy.

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Originally Posted by gahoo

Glad everyone is enjoying the new info. It's 3.5 hours later and we're up and getting ready for day 3. as for downtime frankly I was confused a bit also which is why we kept following up, but what is clear is that 1.x ends, beta begins, then there is some downtime (I got the sense it could be a month but they don't know of course) and then we see 2.0. They know it should be as sort as possible but also know launch must be smooth.

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Thanks Gahoo. I wonder if all of us will be able to test the beta since he said:

GE: Do you have any ideas yet on how will people get into beta?

Yoshida: We decided not to tie it directly to the legacy campaign, but we want to prioritize getting the current players that are playing now into beta.

I'm legacy and played since day 1, I hope that guarantees I get into beta, I don't know what I'll do w/o my FFX|V Fix!!

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Yeah, I was against it too...

/lolimmersionjump

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I was thinking about something the other day. This isn't directed towards anyone, it's just funny - throwing some words out there lol. On the topic of jumping ruining immersion. Imagine, if you were say.. in a mall, in real life and everyone just started jumping and rolling around on the ground. At first you'd be like ok this is weird, but chances are you'd keep on walking and continue doing what you were doing. They're doing their own thing, spazzing out like morons. This is for the most part, not the end of the world.

I want to believe that the average player isn't going to just stand in one spot and jump all day. I mean they might but.. who really cares? that's their experience. People run around in subligars and pumpkin hats on a daily basis, but nobody cries BLOODY IMMERSION RUINED.

Oh and remember goobues? Yeah those guys. I gotta admit, goobues are goofy as hell. I for one thought they have their place in the game, but only as mobs, not mounts. Now that it's a couple of months down the road, I very rarely see people even using them. Most opt to just use their chocobo because it's just easier to see what's around your character.

I guess, I'm saying all of this to say. Your immersion will ALWAYS be ruined, not because of jumping. But because you are playing with other individuals, with unique personalities and dispositions. So to haters of jump I say, hate on! and to lovers of jump, i say jump on! and maybe we can coexist in this crazy online world.. somehow.

To be fair, if that happened to me. I think I would slowly back towards the closest mall exit. Given that the mall is a metaphor for the game, I'm not entirely sure the analogy is apt.

Generally, I agree.

My comment was more at those who felt that not jumping ruined their immersion.

I would have liked to see context-jumping (FFXIII) or at least some sort of purpose to it. Jumping for the sake of jumping seems a bit silly, but w/e.

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Originally Posted by Hulan

To be fair, if that happened to me. I think I would slowly back towards the closest mall exit. Given that the mall is a metaphor for the game, I'm not entirely sure the analogy is apt.

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true. ok, let's say theme park then. that's probably a better scenario - and i'd be far less likely to leave a theme park, especially since i'm paying to be there.

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Originally Posted by casker

gameplay wise i think he just meant it wont be helpful in terms of jumping out of the way of attacks

i'm sure it will still be useful for jumping on stuff and getting to certain places, etc.

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SOunds like it will only be available for running around the map, but for fight encounters it will be disabled.

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Originally Posted by Victor

I never really considered that the game would be technically down for up to a month between 1.0 and 2.0! That's a little disheartening :( Good interview, otherwise.

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You all can't have everything. Its either this or we all start over from scratch. Like I've been saying for months now. 2.0 is a different game on a different server setup. Its like an IT of a business migrating all the workers information to a new Microsoft server. It takes time. Have fun with the beta while we wait for the transfer to complete. Catch up with some PS3 gaming, cuz I know I have a lot of that to do.

And who knows it might not take that long, but they wouldn't tell us this as they want us to alpha test the new game for a month.

Sorta tired of seeing people cry over Jump, I fine it useless. stop QQ that you can't use it in battle and etc and level up dragoon if u really want to use it in battle. On other note so hype up can't wait to test the beta

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GE: So are there any other new systems we can expect to see at at launch 2.0 that we don’t have now?

Yoshida: One thing that will be implemented at 2.0 launch will be new instanced raids that will require alliances of 24 players. In addition, for these, and other instanced raids, we will be adding difficulty selections. So players can play on normal difficulty and get certain items, but then try again on a hard setting in order to obtain better items.

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24-man raids right at launch. AWESOME.

Chocobo tank!

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Originally Posted by casker

gameplay wise i think he just meant it wont be helpful in terms of jumping out of the way of attacks

i'm sure it will still be useful for jumping on stuff and getting to certain places, etc.

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This is how i read it as well. Guess we can find out when the teaser site is released.

Yay, 24-man raids. Now I have something to look forward to.

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You won’t be able to jump to avoid Ifrit’s attacks or anything.

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I'm sure they'll change their minds when they realize you can have debuffs that are affected by movement (or lack thereof) and any melee DPS with an ounce of sense will start jumping to keep said debuff from stacking.

Thanks for the post OP!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by casker

gameplay wise i think he just meant it wont be helpful in terms of jumping out of the way of attacks

i'm sure it will still be useful for jumping on stuff and getting to certain places, etc.

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No he was pretty clear, it's there for the people who want to see themselves jump. That's it.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

No he was pretty clear, it's there for the people who want to see themselves jump. That's it.

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Apart from the picture that has jumping in it has someone jumping off a ledge.

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

Apart from the picture that has jumping in it has someone jumping off a ledge.

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That's what you assume, it could just be how the animation for lalafells look, hence: You need a video.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

No he was pretty clear, it's there for the people who want to see themselves jump. That's it.

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Should have made it client side only for what it's worth.

Jumping... Check
Jiggle... <Hmm...>

So im a little confused on the beta timeframe. I know that 2.0 is expected to launch along with the ps3 version in january of 2013. In the interview Yoshi mentions it taking up to a month to transfer character data from 1.23 to 2.0 and that our beta characters will not be the ones we have now.

so...

does that mean from like oct-nov we have our beta char and then we get to play 2.0 with our original characters from say nov-jan, or do we have to wait until january to get our characters into 2.0?

The day i can remove 1.xx from my computer and install the 2.0 beta, will be a very happy day indeed.

This was a really exciting interview, except, I am nervous about Summoning Primals now. Only a few hardcore LS will ever get them, well that is what it sounds like. That is just conjecture but I think it's a real concern. I guess only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Sanctus

So im a little confused on the beta timeframe. I know that 2.0 is expected to launch along with the ps3 version in january of 2013. In the interview Yoshi mentions it taking up to a month to transfer character data from 1.23 to 2.0 and that our beta characters will not be the ones we have now.

so...

does that mean from like oct-nov we have our beta char and then we get to play 2.0 with our original characters from say nov-jan, or do we have to wait until january to get our characters into 2.0?

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What it sounds to me like is that when the full scale beta is in place, 1.0 servers shut down for good and if you want your FFXIV fix you play the 2.0 beta. In the beta it will be like a proper MMO beta, the character you make cannot be transferred over to the live game. Meanwhile while the beta is in progress they will be actively working on porting your existing character and its data over to the new servers so that there is little down time between when beta ends and the new live servers begin. The beta will last till 2.0 is ready for the live servers, and your characters will be locked away till that happens. When 2.0 beta ends, there will be a period where neither the beta or the live servers will be up, it won't be 1 day, but it will come up as soon as possible. (Maybe a week or two or less). Basically most of the down time will be in the background if you are playing the beta, but as far as your characters are concerned, you aren't playing them again till the official 2.0 servers go live.

In other words, January/February or whenever the 'beta' ends.

I think a month without the game would do a lot of people some good. Go out.. touch a flower, smell clean air (unless you're in the city, you're screwed there), interact with flesh and blood..before locking yourself away for another year.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

No he was pretty clear, it's there for the people who want to see themselves jump. That's it.

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All we can infer is that it won't be necessary to jump for gameplay reasons, or aid us in any way in battling enemies. I.E. we won't be required to platform, or jump to dodge moves.

But that doesn't mean we won't be able to use it to jump over a small fence instead of going around, or jump down a cliff instead of awkwardly falling off of it.

Obviously we'll have to wait and see, but until we see it, it's not a response that leaves nothing up to interpretation.

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Originally Posted by Croy

What it sounds to me like is that when the full scale beta is in place, 1.0 servers shut down for good and if you want your FFXIV fix you play the 2.0 beta. In the beta it will be like a proper MMO beta, the character you make cannot be transferred over to the live game. Meanwhile while the beta is in progress they will be actively working on porting your existing character and its data over to the new servers so that there is little down time between when beta ends and the new live servers begin. The beta will last till 2.0 is ready for the live servers, and your characters will be locked away till that happens. When 2.0 beta ends, there will be a period where neither the beta or the live servers will be up, it won't be 1 day, but it will come up as soon as possible. (Maybe a week or two or less). Basically most of the down time will be in the background if you are playing the beta, but as far as your characters are concerned, you aren't playing them again till the official 2.0 servers go live.

In other words, January/February or whenever the 'beta' ends.

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I hope thats not true because I dont want to go 4 months without my character, but in the roadmap it says 2.0 free trial from nov-january and I'd like to think that the free trial would be with my own character. So confused..

and I really hope the beta servers are the same ppl as our current servers, dont want to be separated for 4 months either

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GE: So are there any other new systems we can expect to see at at launch 2.0 that we don’t have now?

Yoshida: One thing that will be implemented at 2.0 launch will be new instanced raids that will require alliances of 24 players. In addition, for these, and other instanced raids, we will be adding difficulty selections. So players can play on normal difficulty and get certain items, but then try again on a hard setting in order to obtain better items.

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:3

Seems like some of my ideas weren't so bad. Gives me a bit of hope that Yoshi's and my vision for Battle Regime will coincide as well.

As far as jumping for the sake of jumping. Honestly, unless it allows me to hop over foot high ledges that were previously impassable, I won't be using it.

- except to annoy those who will be bothered by random jumping.

http://bionicteaching.com/wp-content...11/10/pogo.gif

'I'M A DRG!!'

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Originally Posted by Hyrist

Seems like some of my ideas weren't so bad

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Am I missing something, or are you claiming credit for the concept of a 24 man raid and hard mode?

Some nice information. But...

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The textures on the ground is fixed, that’s pretty much what it’s going to look like.

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So those are the textures that will be used for release? For shame, Yoshi.

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Originally Posted by Ramsey

Am I missing something, or are you claiming credit for the concept of a 24 man raid and hard mode?

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You're missing about a year's worth of me stating that adjustable difficulties would add to content replability, yes.

But I'm not taking credit for the implementation of the idea - It's not as if I'm a game designer or anything. It's a coincidence. One I'm glad for.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

That's what you assume, it could just be how the animation for lalafells look, hence: You need a video.

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Then he didn't make it "pretty clear" if we still have to speculate about it.

I'm curious, will calling chocobos be limited to soloing? Because in the early concept screen, they were shown being used in a party setting. Will every 8 man party have an additional 8 chocobos? Seems kind of ridiculous if so

I imagine it'll work like in XI, they have fellowship companions which you can add to your party but when you hit the party limit of 6 and say it's 5 PC and 2 NPC one of the NPC will be removed from the party. Basically the chocobos should act as a additional member to fill up a slot when needed but not something in which a full party can double their size by calling upon them. Though maybe they can if they alliance up and summon chcoobos through that means lol.

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Originally Posted by Jocko

I'm curious, will calling chocobos be limited to soloing? Because in the early concept screen, they were shown being used in a party setting. Will every 8 man party have an additional 8 chocobos? Seems kind of ridiculous if so

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4 players + 4 chocobos = 8 man party