New savage raid gear has weapon and armour effects. Thoughts?

honestly, in a game with as much show off as FFXIV, it seemed strange to me that there were still no armors with this type of effect. For example, redmage's LB3 is capable of blinding anyone.

I'm glad that such an option appeared in the game. As a person who left WoW, I was very used to this kind of effect and I missed it. And for those who don't, let's just say we have other pretty solid options to choose from.

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

honestly, in a game with as much show off as FFXIV, it seemed strange to me that there were still no armors with this type of effect. For example, redmage's LB3 is capable of blinding anyone.

I'm glad that such an option appeared in the game. As a person who left WoW, I was very used to this kind of effect and I missed it. And for those who don't, let's just say we have other pretty solid options to choose from.

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There were sets like that before. One of the really early crafted sets from ARR has a version with glowy VFX, then they stopped doing them until SB when the Elemental +1 armor from Hydatos was basically a neon billboard.

Finally, a savage set that's worth grinding for glamour! Looking forward to getting some new plates set up.

Bad time to be Viera i guess, hats are still missing. It's probably time to swap with those good looking armor

I think the caster and healer sets look okay but I don't like the helmets they have. Would have been nice if they had a hood/helmet with glowing eyes like the other sets. I also would have preferred if the healer set had the same purple/black color scheme and purple glows like the caster set. The WHM weapon is also not really my style.

Overall, I think I'll pass on these sets but I hope the others will enjoy them.

It looks great, I love that they are adding more VFX, as long as they are restricted to a few specific parts of the game I think it's fine.

That dragoon set . . . I want so bad.

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Originally Posted by Yushees

Bad time to be Viera i guess, hats are still missing. It's probably time to swap with those good looking armor

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The healer in the middle appears to be a Viera. Though the healer/caster headpiece appears to be a mask, so unsure if the other sets will support Viera as they cover the head more.

If they're going to do this with Savage, make the normal gear dyeable. It's silly this far into the game's life that being able to dye is considered a viable reward and not something standard across gear.

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Originally Posted by Henji

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Savage raiders are spoiled brats.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Savage raiders are spoiled brats.

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Are you unable to do savage for the gear or?

Looks great, I cant wait to get in there.

Sets the bar high for Relic Weapons.

If savage gear looks better than Relics then i'll be a bit annoyed.

In this version of FF relics are more of a casual thing. So to have savage weapons look better than relics meh ok. It’s good to reward people for working hard either way. Relics are just more grindy, and savage is just more practice and skill.

I was hoping we would get hesperos theme gear this tier glad they delivered

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Savage raiders are spoiled brats.

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Most content in the game is made for casual players, they even decided to release tomestones a week earlier as to not upset the casual playerbase. Most good glamours are also obtainable by casual players. I'm not sure how that makes us raiders spoiled brats. You'll also be able to obtain a version of this armor that isn't dyable just by doing the normal raids, which anyone can do.

Everyone gets to be black mages!

Personally not too fond of the ones with large shoulder pads, since they tend to be oversized/floating on anything other then roes.

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

For example, redmage's LB3 is capable of blinding anyone.

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Put on ya shades cus its about to be a VERFLASHBANG LB3 every time when a rdm uses it XD

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

If I was still debating on doing Savage for gear and weapons, I am no longer debating now. They look pretty good. Consider me incentivized.

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Consider me incentivized as well. First they get me to do pvp for the cool armor set that isn't job restricted and now this. Looks like I'll be raiding savage next patch.

I wonder if they have a new designer in the house. Gear looks better this expansion and I see some elements from World of Warcraft like the shoulder pads and the matching glow on the head and shoulders. It's so good! That's something I've missed ever since I came to this game from WoW in 2015. And I think haters will survive having a grand total of 3 glowing armor sets in the game.

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Originally Posted by Nav_Fae

Everything looks great to me. I don't like the bow for Bard though.

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Yoshi P: Quick, we need to make new weapons look black, cool and with a glow! looks at the BRD wep wth is this?
Artist: adds 3 exhausts&flames in a panic

look they just don't know how to design good looking bows in this game

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Are you unable to do savage for the gear or?

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Or what?

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Originally Posted by angienessyo

Most content in the game is made for casual players, they even decided to release tomestones a week earlier as to not upset the casual playerbase. Most good glamours are also obtainable by casual players. I'm not sure how that makes us raiders spoiled brats. You'll also be able to obtain a version of this armor that isn't dyable just by doing the normal raids, which anyone can do.

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A bad glamour that won't glow or be dyable, yes I'm so relieved to hear I'm going to get the welfare version and that I can get the real version when 8.0 comes out.

The gear looks amazing, hands down. My hot take of the day is that dragoon wins this round of gear by a long shot. IMO this is the most beautiful drg lance in the game, beating out my previous favorite: the second stage of the shb relic. I have a soft spot for sword spears. The weapons look like the relic designers got a shot at making savage weapons and I'm all for it.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Or what?



A bad glamour that won't glow or be dyable, yes I'm so relieved to hear I'm going to get the welfare version and that I can get the real version when 8.0 comes out.

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Have you considered becoming a better player at the game?

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Savage raiders are spoiled brats.

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this makes you sound spoiled. not everything has to be handed to you. work for your rewards.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Looks good, glad they're branching out a bit and doing something unique.

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Glowy equipment is far from unique. It basically a staple of MMOs.

not my cup of tea, but i have a feeling this is what a lot of newer players would like.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Or what?



A bad glamour that won't glow or be dyable, yes I'm so relieved to hear I'm going to get the welfare version and that I can get the real version when 8.0 comes out.

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I'll take that as you can't do savage then. Savage is meant to have a nice reward to show off and look cool for doing it early. They are releasing a huge chunk of casual friendly content. Raiders get a lot less in comparison.
Why are you so salty and bitter. As the saying goes, git gud. If you care enough for the glamour then practice and clear the raids, they are not as hard as some like to make out.

I love them! Caster, healer and DRG weapon win this round for me but I like all of them except the BRD weapon. The caster set is perfect for BLM.
I would've liked a set with pants for healers but the robes still look great, nice mix of plain, unicoloured space and highly detailed acessories. I'm curious to see how they'll dye. I hope lighter colours still work and they're not low-key locked to dark colours.
Looks like I'll do some serious farming next tier.

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

I'll take that as you can't do savage then. Savage is meant to have a nice reward to show off and look cool for doing it early. They are releasing a huge chunk of casual friendly content. Raiders get a lot less in comparison.
Why are you so salty and bitter. As the saying goes, git gud. If you care enough for the glamour then practice and clear the raids, they are not as hard as some like to make out.

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Git gud is one of those things people say when they don't have an actual argument. So grats on tipping your hand.

If I'm salty and bitter about savage then you can take it up with the people who designed those fights to make them stress inducing to the point of unhealthy, or the savage raiding community who heaps onto that stress by being unhelpful, toxic jerks who demand perfection at all times and hang expulsion from their precious statics over your head at every point in the process of clearing these badly designed nightmares.

Personally, I feel like they are crossing a line into WoW territory with those armor effects. If they were going to take inspiration from other games then I wish they made the armor look more like GW2's glowing armor and make them look more like sigils glowing rather than the armor turning into a particle effect fountain, lol.

They want to better reward those who make HL content, it's always been that way.

And whether you like it or not, there are always people who like the horrible glowing armors of Eureka.

It's always a matter of taste, some people like the Japanese style, some like cross-dressing, some like glowing skin to show off in society, some like to see their avatar in sexy clothes, some like to dress in-game as in real life, etc.

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Originally Posted by Packetdancer

To be fair, it's always felt weird to me that the savage weapons were frequently underwhelming (though when they were good, they were generally very good) compared to like... crafted weapons from extreme trial materials. Whether or not you like these specific glowy weapons -- and I will say, I don't like these ones half so well as the Asphodelos ones -- I do kind of like the idea of savage weapons which have a chance that you do not immediately glam straight over them.

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I agree - I always wished the rewards could be bumped up a bit in prestige from the amount of effort you go to to get them. I was even wishing the other day that they'd include VFX on gear for a more WoW like direction and here we are, couldn't be happier. I hope they continue to go down this route because as an avid relic weapon collector, the last two sets were not that great.

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles

Glowy equipment is far from unique. It basically a staple of MMOs.

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It's "unique" in the context of FF14, where armor like this is a rarity. We have like one set from back in ARR with particle effects, and the Eureka sets which just kind of glow. They're broadening the style of gear available, which is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Git gud is one of those things people say when they don't have an actual argument. So grats on tipping your hand.

If I'm salty and bitter about savage then you can take it up with the people who designed those fights to make them stress inducing to the point of unhealthy, or the savage raiding community who heaps onto that stress by being unhelpful, toxic jerks who demand perfection at all times and hang expulsion from their precious statics over your head at every point in the process of clearing these badly designed nightmares.

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Have you ever considered that people probably don't want to help you because of your attitude? Every post where Savage+ comes up, you just rant about how awful the content is and how awful the people who enjoy it must be, rather than acknowledging your own personal faults like the rest of us have done on our road to improving at the game. If anything, you've probably been ejected from groups because of your attitude.

If you want the gear, you have to do the content. To do the content before Echo, you need to have a certain level of skill and willingness to cooperate with others. In this context, 'Git gud', as dismissive as it may sound, is legitimately the solution to your woes. SE isn't going to change the content model to suit your personal preferences, so you need to adapt or accept the fact that you'll get certain gear an expansion later.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Git gud is one of those things people say when they don't have an actual argument. So grats on tipping your hand.

If I'm salty and bitter about savage then you can take it up with the people who designed those fights to make them stress inducing to the point of unhealthy, or the savage raiding community who heaps onto that stress by being unhelpful, toxic jerks who demand perfection at all times and hang expulsion from their precious statics over your head at every point in the process of clearing these badly designed nightmares.

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This is such a bizzarre thing to complain about. No one said you have to join toxic parties to do the entire tier. When I started savage I didn't want to deal with those people either so I lead my own statics. We simply didn't invite anyone that wasn't a good personality fit once we established our core. The same can be said for PF. If I want to PUG, I make my own PFs and will kick anyone that either A: lied about their progression level, B: is a toxic weirdo, C: severely underpeforming. Make your own groups and control the culture, it's not everyone else's burden to do it for you.

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Originally Posted by angienessyo

Most content in the game is made for casual players, they even decided to release tomestones a week earlier as to not upset the casual playerbase. Most good glamours are also obtainable by casual players. I'm not sure how that makes us raiders spoiled brats. You'll also be able to obtain a version of this armor that isn't dyable just by doing the normal raids, which anyone can do.

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They're releasing tomestones the same week they usually do, they pushed savage back a week by the request of savage players who want to have a week to do the story and normal mode without having to skip through everything and immediately start on savage.
Don't try to make everything about some casual boogeyman.

I love it. Hope they continue to do something new and a bit different with savage gear. It feels good to be able to show off some new glam with a bit of bling after the fights.

So I'm more than happy to see something different than they usually do especially after being kind of let down by the leveling gear when endwalker released.

The alliance raid gear is super awesome too.

I expect it's not something everyone will love but as long as they keep doing new things at some point hopefully there will be a bit of stuff everyone can enjoy.

I hope they add some glowy stuff in the future that isn't super edgy cause I'm not particularly hyped about these. Happy for people that are looking forward to getting these, though.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

If I'm salty and bitter about savage then you can take it up with the people who designed those fights to make them stress inducing to the point of unhealthy, or the savage raiding community who heaps onto that stress by being unhelpful, toxic jerks who demand perfection at all times and hang expulsion from their precious statics over your head at every point in the process of clearing these badly designed nightmares.

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You know it doesn't have to be that way.

If you genuinely wanted to learn and asked for help, there are hundreds of people who would be happy to show you the ropes, teach and bring you along into content. I help people all the time. Instead you've attacked people here to the point where you're disliked, then you attack them more for disliking you and the cycle continues.

It's self-inflicted. You're clearly more angry at yourself than anyone but lashing out doesn't fix it. You can rant here all you like. No one will care and we'll all go off to farm our shiny weapons and have fun raiding. It's an open invite, it's not our fault you refuse.

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Originally Posted by AnnRam

Weapons looks better than most relics , the MNK looks sick and all the armors too.

I guess people who turns their WOL in to some CK,Nike propaganda will hate it. I mean it's cringe enough to wear sneakers in Fantasy game.

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Does that mean my WoL Lalafell is cringe too cus he wears casual sneakers on the jobs i play? XD nothing really wrong with wearing comfy casual outfits with sneakers. Maybe thats just you :p sometimes i wear armors, sometimes i wear casual. You do you fam :)

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Have you ever considered that people probably don't want to help you because of your attitude? Every post where Savage+ comes up, you just rant about how awful the content is and how awful the people who enjoy it must be, rather than acknowledging your own personal faults like the rest of us have done on our road to improving at the game. If anything, you've probably been ejected from groups because of your attitude.

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The tragic thing is that people would still be willing to help them improve but they are so deep in their hole at this point that they cant get out.