July 4th 24 hr Maintenance

Don't they do maintenance on different days for different servers? It kind of feels like they hate a good chunk of their NA population. Doing anything between July 1st and 4th for NA servers is kinda of dumb.

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Originally Posted by HyonaCookie

SE always (with a few exceptions) has their patch maintenance end on a Tuesday. This means that 24hr ones will start early Monday. It\\'s just how they operate. They aren\\'t gonna move around their preplanned maintenance days because some other country has a holiday that day.

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I have to disagree. As someone who works in IT and on international projects we absolutely take local holidays into consideration when planning maintenance. That SE doesn't is hubris. They simply take the players for granted. We don't matter.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

I can't be bothered to actually do the math but i would be curious to know how many tuesdays a year would be without any interference of onecountry's national holliday.
Worst part these would change each year.

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It's a shame there aren't days of the week other than Tuesdays.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Don't they do maintenance on different days for different servers? It kind of feels like they hate a good chunk of their NA population. Doing anything between July 1st and 4th for NA servers is kinda of dumb.

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They only do server-specific maintenance for small things, not for patch releases such as this. Patch releases get released on the same day for all servers.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

They only do server-specific maintenance for small things, not for patch releases such as this. Patch releases get released on the same day for all servers.

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Oh, I see.

Actually when I think about it, then it makes sense. Patch releases need to be universal or else one set of servers could be upset over not getting new content at the same time as another server.

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Originally Posted by Wombatmetal

I have to disagree. As someone who works in IT and on international projects we absolutely take local holidays into consideration when planning maintenance. That SE doesn't is hubris. They simply take the players for granted. We don't matter.

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I would tend to agree there. My company is also international and those things have to be taken into consideration.

The one thing I can give SE is that they're consistent. They only let their own holidays affect their patch schedule. So it does suck and it does feel a bit like they don't consider all the regions they operate in, but at least everyone else besides the Japanese get to have it suck equally.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

If it's a holiday isn't that a good excuse to go out and celebrate? Go to a restaurant, meet up with friends, venture out for a bit of hiking or a run through the forest?

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If we had those, many of us wouldnt be playing games on a holiday!! :p

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Originally Posted by Wombatmetal

They simply take the players for granted. We don't matter.

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This is SE and FFXIV.
This isn't IT and wherever you may work. This is a different company and they operate differently.
Typically they do Patches on a Monday so that Tuesday it will be done along with their weekly reset.

This is how they operated for a Decade, its not 'Taking the Players for Granted' its consistency in how they run the game.
Sorry its happening on an American Holiday, but for real, shouldn't you be out celebrating? FFXIV isn't going anywhere

The real question is what are they even doing that they need to take the servers down for a full 24 hours. Can't think of any other game with downtimes that long...

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The real question is what are they even doing that they need to take the servers down for a full 24 hours. Can't think of any other game with downtimes that long...

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Data Center travel

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The real question is what are they even doing that they need to take the servers down for a full 24 hours. Can't think of any other game with downtimes that long...

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"In order to accompany the release of Patch 6.18 and the Japanese/European data center expansions, maintenance will take place on all Worlds at the time below, during which FINAL FANTASY XIV will be unavailable."

Data center/server infrastructure stuff tends to take longer than most things to implement for them. I'm guessing it's not as simple as plugging them in and having them work automatically.

Play something else while you wait.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The real question is what are they even doing that they need to take the servers down for a full 24 hours. Can't think of any other game with downtimes that long...

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When you log in, there should be a message about Upcoming Maintenance. And they usually address what its for.
If not when you log in, then its there on the front page, of both the Launcher, and on the Lodestone.
Typically they have a pretty good reason

Can get a lot done in V Rising in 24 hours. :D

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

The real question is what are they even doing that they need to take the servers down for a full 24 hours. Can't think of any other game with downtimes that long...

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It's Square, the lord of spending as little as possible, I would literally believe it if someone told me they were taking it down for a day to save on electricity and bandwidth.

Ok...so instead of complaining about something outside of our control...what will people be doing with the servers being down?

Right now I've been playing Resident Evil Revelations 2 on Steam and mostly just been playing the raid mode. Might be doing some more of that. If not I'll probably continue watching Smallville since it is on Hulu and I think I only got into 3 seasons...and I'm aware it gets weird...but gonna do it anyway.

I've been exploring in Kena: Bridge of Spirits. Combat's a bit basic, but the world's very pretty and the Rot are adorable.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

the Rot are adorable.

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I normally don't put Rot and Adorable in the same sentence so I'm gonna take your word for it.

Please go touch the unsundered grass more, gamers :)

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I normally don't put Rot and Adorable in the same sentence so I'm gonna take your word for it.

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https://media.altchar.com/prod/image...8edf-kena3.jpg

I mean, look at 'em.

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I normally don't put Rot and Adorable in the same sentence so I'm gonna take your word for it.

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Malenia..?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

https://media.altchar.com/prod/image...8edf-kena3.jpg

I mean, look at 'em.

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Omg I want to hold em and squeeze em and name em George!!!!! Sorry adorable things is like kryptonite to me.

Anyway can I complain then that since I'm an American I shouldn't have to work that day or any holiday even though I work in the medical supply company cause you know Holiday!

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Please go touch the unsundered grass more, gamers :)

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I live in the desert. We have no grass. Yay Arizona!

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Originally Posted by Rannie

Omg I want to hold em and squeeze em and name em George!!!!! Sorry adorable things is like kryptonite to me.

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so adorable things make you sick and kill you?

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Originally Posted by Renalt

so adorable things make you sick and kill you?

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They weaken me yeessssss *dies from adorable overload* x_x

I ... leave.. all.. my gil.... x_x

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Originally Posted by Renalt

so adorable things make you sick and kill you?

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Well, there must be SOME reason people have kids, right?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Well, there must be SOME reason people have kids, right?

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Yeah. Someone's gotta wash the car, mow the lawn, do the dishes.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Yeah. Someone's gotta wash the car, mow the lawn, do the dishes.

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eh...I rather have money than kids.

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Originally Posted by Katalyn

Come on SE, why haven't you figured this out yet? Bringing down the servers on a holiday for a major portion of your subscriber base is very uncool. :(

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lol, it's not an international holiday so mind your problems

most people will be playing Sunbreak and Dnf duel anyway

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Originally Posted by Doc_Seraph

Kupo its not too bad don't stress my friend. It is time to enjoy life with a cold one and some good food! The game will be there when we get back ^_^ enjoy some good times kupo <3

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Then go outside in the middle of the night and play with fire and blow things up :D

On behalf of other civil folk living in the US, I apologize for the foolishness displayed here.

If memory serves me, they once planned a a FFXI patch for Memorial Day but ended up moving it after enough people complained.

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Originally Posted by Katalyn

Come on SE, why haven't you figured this out yet? Bringing down the servers on a holiday for a major portion of your subscriber base is very uncool. :(

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It's a American holiday, not a Japanese holiday; they aren't going to observe holidays outside of Japan.

Alright let's make sure no country celebrates anything anymore.

Edit: I mean no one will have a reason to bash other countries anymore or avoid inevitable U.S. bashing threads (though sometimes it's deserved, like this thread).

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I live in the desert. We have no grass. Yay Arizona!

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In the event of no grass, go touch an animal or insect that could kill you. Will remind you of how dangerous it is for the rest of us to go and "touch grass" as they say.

As for OP and topic, im not even getting the day off work. Aint no holiday to me. So ill spend maint at work and taking nap.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

In the event of no grass, go touch an animal or insect that could kill you. Will remind you of how dangerous it is for the rest of us to go and "touch grass" as they say.

As for OP and topic, im not even getting the day off work. Aint no holiday to me. So ill spend maint at work and taking nap.

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That seems to be the average american's holiday now. But hey, i'm sure it was the ground we are standing on that caused this mess and not the "leaders" who are trying their darnest to make the USD worthless while reminding us to feel bad for this or that, lol.

man just go buy a cheap pack of hotdogs and watch your neighbors blow themselves up with bootleg fireworks.

Dear OP:

Do you genuinely not have friends/family that you celebrate the 4th with, or at least other games to play?

If so, you might want to step outside of FFXIV for once and discover a whole new world.

Tbf, many folks are having an awful hard time mustering up the will to "celebrate" this country, especially for its "freedoms," after recent events..

By all means, tho, blowing things up is an appropriate activity.