Miser Fight post-patch

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

Really guess what the groups I run with still dont use a PLD to tank in av or cc. WAR can still tank, and until SE fixes PLD you wont see many groups useing it for speed runs. Nerfing other jobs is the only way SE has been trying to fix PLD as well as adding a few buffs here and there. SE cant seem to learn from its mistakes and this will continue until they do. If players want a PLD tank than they need to tell SE to fix PLD w/o nerfing other jobs ie : WAR!!

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Calm the fuck down.

Why make a topic saying you having hard issue tanking a boss. Then everyone say they tanking it fine you do this and that and then this then follow by "i know how to tank" then if you know what are you having such hard time and other are not?

ok sorry had to get that out of the way

Ontopic the only issue i see is monk does a lot more dmg tell your monks not to go all out and your be fine.

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Originally Posted by Maxthunder

Really guess what the groups I run with still dont use a PLD to tank in av or cc. WAR can still tank, and until SE fixes PLD you wont see many groups useing it for speed runs. Nerfing other jobs is the only way SE has been trying to fix PLD as well as adding a few buffs here and there. SE cant seem to learn from its mistakes and this will continue until they do. If players want a PLD tank than they need to tell SE to fix PLD w/o nerfing other jobs ie : WAR!!

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WAR is fine, PLD is fine.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury

WAR is fine, PLD is fine.

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A cat is fine too

(okay, sorry for the interlude)

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Originally Posted by Skies

A cat is fine too

(okay, sorry for the interlude)

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Of course! :D

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Originally Posted by Fyres

Anyone on WAR having a tough time keeping hate from MNK's on Miser? I have over 100+ Enimity gear and use maddening potions. On top of that, I use collusion at beginning of fight with a Firaga and collusion monks whenever I see them do a WS....


Wtf se? Learn to balance jobs.

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"Wtf se?" Nothing is wrong, it is fine if you learn to WAR.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Which limits us to one tank. One tank out of the plethora of jobs in the FF IP is a bad idea. Figured we'd have learned this from FFXI...

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Because the one tank from before (WAR) was any different. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Fyres

I know how to tank.

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I don't know if this applies to you but from my expirience 9/10 People who say this do not know how to tank.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

I don't know if this applies to you but from my expirience 99/100 People who say this do not know how to tank.

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fixed that for you.

Anyways to whoever has an issue tanking Miser's:

BE A PALADIN!

And this.

While everyone is gathered after buffs do:

Sentinel -> Flash -> Rampart (has to hit everyone in the PT) -> Provoke -> Aegis ->
War Drum -> Spirits Within Combo -> then just spam Flat Blade/Gorging Blade combos,
then -> Divine Vail -> Outmaneuver and redo all of the above in sequence.
If u have some ENM+ gear and some Maddening Potions you should be fine... just fine.

Don't forget that u can AoE heal aswell all of ur Monks with Sacred Prism
and get some hate from that too.
Also u can use a macro for skills like Rampart and Sentinel to notify u when
they are available again by typing an error message:

/ac "Rampart" <me>
/wait 45
/wait 45
// Yuri San your Rampart is up dude POP IT!!!

^ This will pop in ur battle chat if u have the filter of the error messages to "on"
in the chat log options. (i am proud of myself for comming up with this)

YES! YOU HAVE TO BE THIS^ INNOVATIVE IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD TANK!

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

// Yuri San your Rampart is up dude POP IT!!!

^ This will pop in ur battle chat if u have the filter of the error messages to "on"
in the chat log options. (i am proud of myself for comming up with this)

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Or you could always use.. ya know.. /echo =D

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Originally Posted by Ambuter

Or you could always use.. ya know.. /echo =D

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I like mine better and i won't use any other tank's way cause i am a tank and as we all know tanks are knowitall stuck up bricks...

But ya imma use mine cause i can type any message i want in :)

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

I like mine better and i won't use any other tank's way cause i am a tank and as we all know tanks are knowitall stuck up bricks...

But ya imma use mine cause i can type any message i want in :)

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I used to do the same thing when we had guard, I had a macro to auto put UAE up 3 times in a ow then a message warning me when it was done

as already stated in a good fast fight mnk's can do around 20k, if a 2min. kill this is 166DPS. The best DPS in my shell has done 175DPS without it moving where hearty victuals don't pop on top of the group (so you can keep using aura pulse when ready). 160+ DPS is probably only possible with talons and 170+ with near perfect gear setup and STR Pots.

I tanked a few 170+ dps runs on WAR, when running with pickup groups I have switched to PLD. The hate lvl is not as high as WAR but the survivability is way higher, I can solo heal as well as keep hate on the adds when they pop till the blm gets a chance to sleep them. Also I can remove my gravity quickly when it 1st moves to a pool which is very important so I dont' breath the pickups who don't know any better.

Also not the point of this post but PLD on Coincounter you can nearly strait tank 99% of the time if u keep aegis boon ready and time your divine veil as needed. Strait tanking through 100T's is very fun, and it lets you keep a slightly higher hate ceiling since you are not running away/moving around. Less to worry about getting locked in.