In From the Cold was one of the best mmo quests I have ever seen (spoilers)

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Originally Posted by Gameovers

So do you not do dungeons? Trials, or raids? Not trying to be mean but everything is timed. :/

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Dungeons are infamously undertuned, and can be trusted, Trials aren’t strict enough to have the whole Party Alive, 24 man raids also are mild enough to have a few corpses doing nothing.

Let’s be real these people want a participation trophy and a show, not to play a game

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Originally Posted by Jirah

Dungeons are infamously undertuned, and can be trusted, Trials aren’t strict enough to have the whole Party Alive, 24 man raids also are mild enough to have a few corpses doing nothing.

Let’s be real these people want a participation trophy and a show, not to play a game

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Wait.. are we in agreement? Because it sounds like you are agreeing with my point. In case there's some confusion, I made my question that because people keep saying being timed is stressing them. But Everything in this game is timed. Everytime you enter in instance it's timed. I think the timed thing is an excuse and people just need to stop wanting games to baby them.

I didn’t like it.

I loved the duty. It really put the situation into perspective and it was refreshing to have to stumble through the whole event, not quite knowing what to do but figuring it out eventually.

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

SE's fixation on time-limiting everything that moves made this the nightmare it is, SE KNOW time-limiting ratchets up anxiety in players who need time to think and serves no useful purpose whatsoever other than to do just that. It's unnecessary and player-hostile design, which infests this game in many places where is just don't belong.

Oh, and "The struggle might be painful but that just makes the reward that much sweeter at the end" for you maybe, for me it's "relief that that loathsome content is over".

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I don't really get this complaint for this specific duty (or any of the instanced duties, honestly). If you run out the time - run it again? There is no one there to be disappointed or yell at you for not getting through this duty in time. If you have friends that you're leveling through MSQ with and they're giving you grief about it, find friends that aren't bullies lol.

I personally get the whole "timed content gives me anxiety" because that was very much me back when I played WoW with Mythic keystones. That was high stakes because it was the only way for people to get their best gear, and folks would often ragequit or complain when keys ran out. There's nothing like that in FFXIV that I've experienced.

I don't think it was THAT good, but it was okay.

aaaaaaaaand its nerfed. congrats to everyone who got through it with original design. We are an elite few.

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

aaaaaaaaand its nerfed. congrats to everyone who got through it with original design. We are an elite few.

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Is it not only nerfed for the easier difficulties once you've failed the duty?

Is that a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by Jirah

I find it absolutely hilarious people are down on it because they have to try

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but you don't have to try...? it's all very straight forward and boring

btt: I do like the narrative behind it, but I thought the quest was boring and tedious

I loved the quest! Please keep giving us more just like this! Considering we're at the end of the game, it's only logical that difficulty is increased a bit. And I'm graceful they respected that!

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Originally Posted by Remish

I loved the quest! Please keep giving us more just like this! Considering we're at the end of the game, it's only logical that difficulty is increased a bit. And I'm graceful they respected that!

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This right here


Why the hell do we still need any content that’s easier than HW? This is 90s if you made it thru SoS and Dancing plague you should be able to be challenged more

I loved it. Probably my most favorite part of the Expansion besides the last-solo instance. I can write a couple of paragraph on how great it is- that's how much I enjoyed it. They could adjust the instance a bit so the objectives could be more obvious but other then that- It's perfect.

Loved it loved it loved it!! Please give us more of those whenever you have the chance SE! :D

It was a fantastic concept with seriously flawed execution. You have no idea where you are supposed to go or what you are supposed to do...not because you don't know what the end goal is, but because the quest area is cordoned off with a bunch of arbitrary invisible walls. From start to finish everything in that whole quest area is the same color which really sucks from a visibility standpoint.

Oddly enough I have no issues with the soldier's actual combat potency, this fits the tone of the quest perfectly...even though one of the supposedly best fighters in the known universe even at diminished strength should be able to do more than haphazardly swing a sword. At the end of the area when you are basically blown to bits and crawling out of the area, then suddenly you do this gladiator leap to block Zenos from killing your friends. You should be almost dead when you do this. Where was this sudden combat capability during the rest of the quest?

Finding the armor and having to backtrack to the fuel you had already found but weren't able to pick-up was annoying, then no longer being able to defend yourself while carrying the fuel back to the armor.

At one point I picked up a heal-over-time potion, which was far preferable to the single-use medpacs. They should have just made all the medpacs like those(each one simply refreshing the duration) and it would have been less annoying.

The quest wasn't "hard", it was tedious. There's a number of things they could have done to make it less tedious while still maintaining the tone and "difficulty" of the quest.

(On a side note, I'm generally not a fan of the quests that make you play as someone else with a handful of abilities that you can't even change the button assignments for)

I enjoyed it but almost failed the button mash. When the screen went black I set the controller down and picked up my coffee, figuring I messed up something big and expecting to see "mission failed" not the button LOL

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Originally Posted by SugarPuff

I enjoyed it but almost failed the button mash. When the screen went black I set the controller down and picked up my coffee, figuring I messed up something big and expecting to see "mission failed" not the button LOL

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Lol, nearly the same. I breathed out in relief when the screen cuts to black, and tabbed out to Discord to talk to someone. When I came back... crap, there was an ATM that I JUST missed! WTF?! :D

I loved that part too. Made me realize how powerful the wol is, compared to your average grunt. A nice change of pace from being unkillable.

I legitimately wanted to unsubscribe while I was doing it. Afterwards I had zero energy to continue playing. It wasn't even a difficulty thing. I was lost and annoyed. What am I supposed to do? Why would the moron who coded this not put map markers or arrows so you don't aimlessly wander? It's not even a fun wander. It's gray and black and white and boring. Not to mention the whole body jack plot amounted to jack shit. It was just disheartening and disjointed. Someone made an Evangelion joke about this mission and honestly I'm ready to become tang.

Sorry for the rant, but I wanted to vent after that bullcrap.