Dev-Team gonna Add/Update Character Creation And Veteran players have to Pay for it

Another thing that makes me wish for fantasias to be redeemable with the Achievement currency. Oh well.

meanwhile in WoW you can even change your character gender for free

maybe with 7.0 we'll see a big engine/customization upgrade
right?


right?

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Another thing that makes me wish for fantasias to be redeemable with the Achievement currency. Oh well.

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I've said before they should let us trade in achievement certificates for fantasia or the rare dyes you can get from the Mog Station. Or something. Because I sure have a lot of them and nothing to use them on.

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

meanwhile in WoW you can even change your character gender for free

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you can also have drunk frat boys groping you in your cubical in WoW.... for free

guessing you have a point?

this isnt WoW, and thankfully so

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Originally Posted by Lily_Skye

meanwhile in WoW you can even change your character gender for free

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But race/faction changes cost more, no?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

But race/faction changes cost more, no?

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Yeah, it's a considerably larger financial investment if you want to change your race, faction or even server. They all cost around the same I believe, which is $25.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Another thing that makes me wish for fantasias to be redeemable with the Achievement currency. Oh well.

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I wish they did more with cheevo currency in general. Or at the very least they gave out free fantasias with each story capstone quest like they did at the end of ARR's MSQ.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

you can also have drunk frat boys groping you in your cubical in WoW.... for free

guessing you have a point?

this isnt WoW, and thankfully so

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So they bring up a relevant point of what another mmo does better and you jump to something completely irrelevant to game design decisions.

it's good feedback, more of a contribution to this thread than you made anyways.

Well in WoW race change is mostly used to change to other racial abilities that give advantage in pve or pvp, like there was a time when a raid had a lot of ‘beast’ classified bosses and high-end raiders changed to a race that had a passive %damage increase to beasts. Outside of that the service isn’t really used all that much in WoW, because frankly even tho there is transmog (glamour) most WoW players don’t even care what their character looks like under the tier armors or are zoomed out so far that they couldn’t make it out anyway.

A lot of people even play a race even tho they don’t like the looks but they want the racial abilities and there are ways to semi-permanently change your character model through consumables or toys in case of modern WoW.
So in WoW the high price is more of a deterrence to prevent hoping for gameplay advantage and keep it for someone who truly wants a new cosmetic look.

While FF14 is the complete opposite, glamour and looks are like one of the main points of the game, there are times when you just zoom in and drool over your character (I found myself doing it), so people will naturally change their character from time to time to get the most out of this and square wants to fully cash in on that.

But I agree, at least eye color should be changeable by ingame means either give it to the aesthetician or add ‘colored contact lenses’ items for Gil or any currency.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

you can also have drunk frat boys groping you in your cubical in WoW.... for free

guessing you have a point?

this isnt WoW, and thankfully so

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excuse my choice of words, but what the flying f*ck does that have to do with that? jesus christ, god forbid "that game" has something that'd be nice to have in xiv, we can't have that now, can we? because wow bad

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

excuse my choice of words, but what the flying f*ck does that have to do with that? jesus christ, god forbid "that game" has something that'd be nice to have in xiv, we can't have that now, can we? because wow bad

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people are complaining about monetization in here.. my word, have to buy a fantasia for a new face.. and then someone brings up "can do it for free in WoW"

thats nice and all, but they do a TON of things badly in WoW, as well as monetizing the crap out of every last thing they can, mounts for instance, then they also tie a mount to a 6 month sub, pretty much wasting time and money.

does Wow do some things well? of course they do. like player housing.. oh wait, scratch that... just very tired of the whole "well WoW does this"

point being, two different philosophies, the FFxiv devs played it back in the day, took some good direction on what to do after the trainwreck that was 1.0

I am all for getting the things that work , if they can still find something. but complaining about a couple dollars to change something like your face? unless you do it weekly.. why is that an issue?

Someone doesn't realize Hrothgar hair is tied to the head which you can't change once you create it, only the fur etc. You're about 2 1/2 years behind.

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Originally Posted by Usernamewastaken

Someone doesn't realize Hrothgar hair is tied to the head which you can't change once you create it, only the fur etc. You're about 2 1/2 years behind.

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i know this but this added from Start imagine they give Hrothgar a patch fix , and you have to pay for it?

They've gone into detail about why this had to be done in the way it was done. If you're so mired in this paranoid delusion that the devs are secretly evil and doing everything they can to nickel and dime their players, then you need to get out more. Play a different game, you'll swiftly find out what playing a game run by devs that actually DON'T care about anything but bilking people for their money feels like.

Most MMO devs are RIDICULOUSLY opaque about their reasons for doing things, if not outright combative with their player base. Their reasoning remains forever arcane, and their practices often outright predatory.

Older characters in XIV were designed in a way that prevents them from adding additional customizations to existing face shapes. This is in no small part, connected to the reasons why we still don't have larger inventories. It's a memory limitation.

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Originally Posted by Anatha

They've gone into detail about why this had to be done in the way it was done. If you're so mired in this paranoid delusion that the devs are secretly evil and doing everything they can to nickel and dime their players, then you need to get out more. Play a different game, you'll swiftly find out what playing a game run by devs that actually DON'T care about anything but bilking people for their money feels like.

Most MMO devs are RIDICULOUSLY opaque about their reasons for doing things, if not outright combative with their player base. Their reasoning remains forever arcane, and their practices often outright predatory.

Older characters in XIV were designed in a way that prevents them from adding additional customizations to existing face shapes. This is in no small part, connected to the reasons why we still don't have larger inventories. It's a memory limitation.

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What Did i say is A FACTS i never mention Dev intentions At all check what i wrote before writing this

As long as we get Hilda's, Lyse's & Hythlodaeus' hair & not more short spikey rpg anime hero hairstyles, I'd welcome an updated character creator with meaningful updates- similar to the options Viera have & more that people have asked for-
Such as:
Spots or darkened ear tips & tails for miqo'te (both genders)
Fangs for Au Ra & Seeker of sun Miqote
Interchangaeble horns for Au RA not locked to faces
New horns for Au Ra
2-3 new improved faces for each race
2-3 wearable face paint options instead of only being able to wear 1
New hair colours, eye colours & make-up colours
Half Elezen option for both Hyur & Elezen (Hyur get elezen ears & Elezen get human ears)
Garlean 3rd eye for half-Elezen & Hyur
New body models that have actual meat on them (like 2B butt without the leggings) & chest hair for males
Battle voice preview
Racial Run/ Walk preview
Thicker eyelashes for all faces
Full facial hair for male races with the new faces

I'd buy a fantasia to have the things I've requested for years, so yes I am 100% okay with whatever SE does so long as character creator gets improvement.

I see no problem so long as it's implemented with care & not rushed like Female Viera & Male Hrothgar were

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Originally Posted by SherlottaEryut

I had no idea the facial hair required a fantasia to get... What a cash grab. I'm usually one who defends SE but I got to say this is beyond cheeky of them. It is obvious that facial hair should be something the aesthetician should be able to give you.

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Luckily I have 2 Fantasias on all my characters, the original one given away (for reasons I no longer clearly recall, something to do with game disruption I believe) and the second one they accidentally granted shortly after and decided not to remove .. I'm good.

One of my characters has the moustache so he already has facial hair!

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

people are complaining about monetization in here.. my word, have to buy a fantasia for a new face.. and then someone brings up "can do it for free in WoW"

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which is a valid point

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

thats nice and all, but they do a TON of things badly in WoW, as well as monetizing the crap out of every last thing they can, mounts for instance, then they also tie a mount to a 6 month sub, pretty much wasting time and money.

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has literally nothing to do with the point the poster made and you're using that and the earlier thing you said to immediately try to shut it down because 'wow bad'

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

does Wow do some things well? of course they do. like player housing.. oh wait, scratch that... just very tired of the whole "well WoW does this"

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nothing wrong with taking a look at what other games have to offer and possibly copy it? I guess XIV should go back to ho-

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

point being, two different philosophies, the FFxiv devs played it back in the day, took some good direction on what to do after the trainwreck that was 1.0

I am all for getting the things that work , if they can still find something. but complaining about a couple dollars to change something like your face? unless you do it weekly.. why is that an issue?

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oh so copying some things is ok, but not things like free race/gender/face changes, which would hugely benefit the playerbase, be it indecisive players, RPers and whatnot, because SE would lose money, that's not ok? why not simply make it cost gil instead?

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

why not simply make it cost gil instead?

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I'd be all about being able to make major changes to characters outside of race/clan and gender using gil. That would give people more liberty to make changes they want without consideration for RL money and would also take a load of gil out of circulation P.D.Q.

i just wish they'd update the textures and models.
it is work, but wouldnt require them to upheave everything. im tired of seeing the weird rendering at the end of the leveilleur twins' noses while certain characters since SB have smooth rendering and faces.