So who else is nuking their chatbox for the duration of EW till the end of the story?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kolsykol

How is it psychotic to turn off a chat and avoid social media for a couple of days?

---

Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dracosavarian

Not going to address your views on the story save to say I disagree, it feels clear to me you haven’t gone through all of it, though I may be wrong in regards to that. I still disagree however.

---

I've cleared all story content of the game, including beast tribes. All of it had been predictable or done in some manner of way before, and some of it is very cliche. This is not saying the game is bad, just not as good as people that do not consume literature or other forms of story telling media hype it up to be.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dracosavarian

All of that having been said, folks are right to wish to avoid spoilers. Because if they get spoiled, they are, in turn, robbed of a memory that would have been otherwise genuine and true, and held deeply within their hearts and cherished.

Instead spoilers rob them of these moments, of these memories they would have otherwise had. I feel they are justified in wanting to minimize if not outright negate that issue entirely.

---

I think these people you speak of need to be worried about other things in their life if moments in a videogame are memories held deeply in their hearts and cherished. Maybe they shouldn't be playing videogames till they sort other stuff out in their lifes.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lezard21

Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.

---

This has long been a hybrid of social game and single-player RPG. Shutting out one side to focus on the other is hardly remarkable.

It's also not like you have to go out of your way to do it. It's easy to turn off a few chat channels temporarily and then turn them back on when done with the msq. It's almost 0 effort protection against spoilers that doesn't negatively impact your experience.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lezard21

Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.



I've cleared all story content of the game, including beast tribes. All of it had been predictable or done in some manner of way before, and some of it is very cliche. This is not saying the game is bad, just not as good as people that do not consume literature or other forms of story telling media hype it up to be.

---

I would elaborate further then, as that is not the way your post came off initially, but rather, utterly dismissive of any viewpoint in regards to the story and others feelings about said story past your own. Your views and life is not that lived of others.

Regardless, I still don’t agree. There is no difference in my viewpoint of closing off all chat filters in game to enjoy the story vs shutting oneself in during a winter storm and curling up to a fireplace to read a good book that just releases. You may not hold that viewpoint, and that’s fine. But I don’t. Truth be told, I’m kind of surprised by how antagonistic you are being in regards to this. But, c'est la vie. Follow your own path. I’ll follow mine.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lezard21

I think these people you speak of need to be worried about other things in their life if moments in a videogame are memories held deeply in their hearts and cherished. Maybe they shouldn't be playing videogames till they sort other stuff out in their lifes.

---

Some of us work in healthcare related fields and are dealing with nightmare fuel right now in our lives. Secluded from friends, family, and overworked beyond measure. To those of us affected by such, I do not find time spent with friends and memories forged with them in this game when I cannot be around them IRL, especially with the insane work hours I pull every week, to be the thing you paint in such an abhorrent, abstract light. But rather, a way of connecting with them and a communion of our friendship and the joys we share in life together, given current circumstances.

I would hope that you would update your viewpoint in light of this. Not all are afforded the opportunities you may find yourself blessed with. And your life circumstances are not their own, much less mine.

Enjoy your day good soul, and be well.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lezard21

Playing a social game and turning off the social aspect of it is eyebrow concerning at the very least.

---

There's a bit of context here that you're ignoring.
As in the why people will do it.

I only talk to my FC mostly. Never really use chat unless comms is required to instanced content, PvP, Raids, Eureka/Bozja.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Dracosavarian

Some of us work in healthcare related fields

---

I do too, I work in a pharmacy. Nice strawman attempt via sob story doe. I do hope it was sincere and not you using healthcare personnel to push your point.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

My biggest fear is. Because of the media tour people already know every skill changed. Me? I main SMN but have opted NOT to look at the new skills as I want to learn it on my own and not depend on someone who jumped at leaks and already made a rotation before anyone else could.

---

This itself is fine, and largely how i operate, mostly because i learn by doing and can't really pick up the feel of a rotation from a video

However, some people jump straight into instanced content without even playing with their new buttons for a bit on a striking dummy to see what they even do. I saw a lot of streamers on the media tour try Reaper and Sage and just not have bars setup when they queued into something and were like "oh, guess i need to pull things out of my spellbook as we go, haha" and just end up being a detriment to the entire group because they didn't take the 10 minutes to read their tooltips and set up their bars.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Averax

This itself is fine, and largely how i operate, mostly because i learn by doing and can't really pick up the feel of a rotation from a video

However, some people jump straight into instanced content without even playing with their new buttons for a bit on a striking dummy to see what they even do. I saw a lot of streamers on the media tour try Reaper and Sage and just not have bars setup when they queued into something and were like "oh, guess i need to pull things out of my spellbook as we go, haha" and just end up being a detriment to the entire group because they didn't take the 10 minutes to read their tooltips and set up their bars.

---

Tbh some of the Streamers I saw playing original Jobs from back in ARR in the media tour was pretty painful to watch.
Nothing out of the ordinary really.

I won't name any names but holy hell watching one of the biggest channels who actually makes guides too play MNK hurt my soul.
Like there are actually people making guides who have a large following who are basically what you described lol.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lezard21

I do too, I work in a pharmacy. Nice strawman attempt via sob story doe. I do hope it was sincere and not you using healthcare personnel to push your point.

---

I am not. I am stating fact. It is not being used to push a point, but rather help illustrate how time with friends in this game when work and life circumstances prevent one from being with them, can be a good thing for one’s mental health. Rather than the light you wished to portray it in.

I've been spoiled before by people talking about a fight they're doing in FC chat. Lesson learned. This time I'm probably muting everything. There's nothing I need to hear from people during the first two weeks or so.

Chatbox filtered to "NPC only" channels, twitter armored up with a lot of relevant muted words, I'm expecting to play this as a heads down experience until I catch up with the story likely with the christmas holidays. Apologies ahead of time to anyone explaining story related trials, I won't be able to hear you! Ideally these fights remain as intuitive as usual!

Me and probably use the "busy" button.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by KaTnIs

Me and probably use the "busy" button.

---

Oh wow I hadn’t thought of that! Good idea!

Nah. I like to chat with friends and strangers alike on my journey. New expansion or not.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

I have decided to based on not wanting to deal with "omg so and so made a rotation guide with the leaks, you should be doing x and y, not y and x, didn't you read it?!"

I want my immersion, plot, and enjoyment of the conclusion.

So I personally will be ignoring everyone. At least until the story says 'ending or to be continued.'

---

Uh, so what exactly does a rotation guide of playing your class well with the new skills have anything to do with the story?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by EtherRose

Uh, so what exactly does a rotation guide of playing your class well with the new skills have anything to do with the story?

---

People b'tching at you to know things before they came out can really kill the fun of what you're reading by destroying the mood and making you annoyed all day. Hiding and ignoring them, lets you focus only on the story.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

People *censored* at you to know things before they came out can really kill the fun of what you're reading by destroying the mood and making you annoyed all day. Hiding and ignoring them, lets you focus only on the story.

---

It usually takes a few days to a week after launch for people to figure out the most optimal rotation anyway and post it on Youtube, so...And I have never seen anyone try and push a pre-release rotation on anyone. Sometimes I have to wonder if we are playing 2 entirely different games, or the same game in 2 separate universes. Media Tour information also wasn't final, and I doubt those who attended had enough time to do the math. Even if there are some rough drafts out there, that's all they are.

damn right i'll turning off chat, this is the ff14 equivalent of avengers endgame, I am NOT going to have anyone spoil it for me.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It usually takes a few days to a week after launch for people to figure out the most optimal rotation anyway and post it on Youtube, so...And I have never seen anyone try and push a pre-release rotation on anyone. Sometimes I have to wonder if we are playing 2 entirely different games, or the same game in 2 separate universes. Media Tour information also wasn't final, and I doubt those who attended had enough time to do the math. Even if there are some rough drafts out there, that's all they are.

---

I'm just basing it on my Bozja experience I mentioned before. And the fact I saw people in a discord I'm in, saying everyone should study up on the media tour releases to know their rotation on launch. That's where I was like 'ugh.'

just shrink it

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Nekaru_Infitima

I'm just basing it on my Bozja experience I mentioned before. And the fact I saw people in a discord I'm in, saying everyone should study up on the media tour releases to know their rotation on launch. That's where I was like 'ugh.'

---

Well, it's not a bad idea to at least have cursory knowledge of how your job is changing for EW.

It's never acceptable to berate someone just because they aren't playing optimally, but if you're in group content, it's also your responsibility to pull your weight. Personally I wouldn't say anything to someone in dungeons unless we're on our 3rd wipe or so.

My experience isn't terribly hurt by spoilers, so I'll just play as I always have. Even knowing something in the catastrophic spoiler tier isn't all that bad since you often don't know the context for it, and the context is what I find interesting.

Ex- the infamous Snape kills **** spoiler. Knowing that didn't really phase me; in fact, it made me look forward to the how and why.

Don't be that guy who ruins the gargoyle guildhest because no one can chat with you.

Spoilers aren't real, they can't hurt you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Listrella

damn right i'll turning off chat, this is the ff14 equivalent of avengers endgame, I am NOT going to have anyone spoil it for me.

---

Part of me is expecting this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t95aLo7R1NM
( Obvious spoilers for Harry Potter ).

There's immature morons who like to spoil things for people because they think it's '' funny ''.
I am expecting people to type spoilers in chat and maybe some people depending on how it goes who will vent in chat about it because they're '' sad and need to vent '' or whatever.

I think some people just won't be able to hold it back and spoil things it's best to just avoid chat entirely until you're done.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kaedan

Well, it's not a bad idea to at least have cursory knowledge of how your job is changing for EW.

---

If it was from Square like the patch notes, or their official video they released which I do watch, I'd agree.
But the media tour was a bunch of lucky asses who got to go see 'leaks'. I'm not studying their stuff and spoiling.

I'd prefer to watch the official stuff, and be surprised in learning on my own when it's out.

Rarely ever look at chat in this game

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Omedon

Oh wow I hadn’t thought of that! Good idea!

---

Haha thanks to Zepla.. didn't know this either.