I am beyond dissapointed with the job trailer

I'm pretty happy with what i saw with GNB,NIN and RDM ,for SMN its the first time ive wanted to play it since HW
and keen to try MNK changes too

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Originally Posted by Roda

DONT YOU DARE MAKE THEM TAKE ANOTHER THING FROM ME!!

(Give schs nerd scrolls)

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But books makes sense for sch. smn could get something way cooler.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

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Those kind of paper talismans would be cool for onmyouji (or mystic/oracle/whatever you want to call them).

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Originally Posted by Senn

But books makes sense for sch. smn could get something way cooler.

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https://rlv.zcache.com/reading_is_co...8byvr_704.webp
(This picture has all my ideal caster stuff, books, dogs, dots, and diagrams!)

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Originally Posted by Roda

(This picture has all my ideal caster stuff, books, dogs, dots, and diagrams!)

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reading is for nerds!! and don't summoners use the power of crystals to summon? so why the books? unless they legit just carry around a picture book of their dog and random doodles into battle. idr smn lore tbh

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Originally Posted by Senn

reading is for nerds!! and don't summoners use the power of crystals to summon? so why the books? unless they legit just carry around a picture book of their dog and random doodles into battle. idr smn lore tbh

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Summoner: Here, I wrote down the mathematical formula for god.

I don't think crystals show up any more than other jobs. They mostly channel their own aether that kind of stores their exposure to primals. The arcane geometries extract that exposure.
Either way SMN lore is gonna have to get totally retconned. :(

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Originally Posted by Harlot

In a time like this where final fantasy iş at ıts peak they should have been invested more. Except summoner there is almost near to no diffrence in all other classes. As a black mage main i am so sick of seeing only a one new skill to use it at the end of your fire 4 rotation. Other then that all they dış was to change the aoe fire skill a little bit.

Same goes with every healer. They literally almost recoulered the old dps skill, it almost looks they are the same. And they are not even better, they are worst then how they used to be. Take White mage as an example, looks like they changed the White mage's dps skill a little bit but somehow they still managed to ruin it. Same goes with holy. Holy was literally the biggest reason why i wanted to play White mage but now holy gone for the worst as well.

This whole job action trailer looks like they made those changes in one hour except summoner. Looks like they put all of their effort in summoner. At least the new classes looks good.

But other then that i am beyond dissapointed. I have been waiting for this trailer for months and this is what we get, near to no New skill and recoloured versions of old skins? I think this is the worst job action trailer we got so far. And like i said in a time like this they should have put so much more effort. One of the qualities is final fantasy known for is its big spell animations. They should have lock those New players to the game with glorious spell animations but unfortunatel we got this...

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They said in the LL that not everything is shown.

Media Tour has always been a mixed kind of emotions. cant please everyone.
But they did say they built upon the Shadowbringers changes, so what i saw afterwards in the trailer didnt surprise me~
Tho as a BLM Main im happy with what we getting

WHM looks awesome and can’t wait to main mine

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Black Mage is getting a new skill or two, and upgrades to Fire 2 and Blizzard 2.

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This, and literally, BLM is the best designed job in the game that there's no point to completely change it up

EDIT: Freeze looks like it does something new too so there's potentially 3 new skills, a new trait, and a reworked spell

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Originally Posted by KayRadley

I dunno how you can look at MNK in that trailer and be disappointed. Who hurt you?

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I'm going to wait until it comes out to give a full judgement but there was no point in removing 2 positionals. Idk what to think of the gauge but the Blitz stuff looks neat.

Tbh jobs being drastically changed every expansion isn't a good thing. If a job is functioning as intended by the devs, then all any job would need is upgrades to existing skills and either a new finisher, a new piece of utility, or some form of both in combination. Maybe some QoL to advance the rotation change for the new level cap.

SMN and SCH have unfortunately been thanos snapped followed by a Dynamis Dice roll to determine functionality every expansion since 2.0 because theyve been partially imbalanced every expansion due to their dual connection to Arcanist. I would much rather them be settled with minimal changes than have to have my world flipped turned upside down every 2 years.

I don't deal well with change and SE is throwing out a lot of changes with Endwalker. It's pretty overwhelming to be honest.

You aren't really summoning anything new with Summoner though (just the dragon and phoenix like now). You are just charging gems to cast some spells. Not sure if that's going to be an improvement. As a backup plan, I'm leveling Dragoon (which I really like and apparently is not changing much in Endwalker). So if I end up hating the new Summoner at least I will have Dragoon to fall back on.

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Originally Posted by Ailuron

ahahaha like SMN to me... unpopular opinion, but I personally don't like SMN's change in direction into a more traditional caster.. this rework.. sure it looks nice and fancy, but it doesnt feel like a summoner anymore, to me at least.

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To me the changes make the job more like a true summoner where you are summoning the essence of the primals you've defeated along the way. The changes look interesting to me but without knowing how the skills are played and what the actions bar looks like the jury is out on whether I will like the changes. If they are like some of the jobs I had to play as part of the Shadowbringer main quest scenarios that use a single key for progressive skills I probably won't like it. If the skills can be set as individual action buttons I can fire when I want then I will probably like the new stuff though I will miss the DoTs. That being said FFXIV will no longer have a pet style class which the current SMN is more or less. As I like playing pet classes I think this makes for a big hole in a popular MMO job class and could make for some player losses to MMO's that do have pet classes.

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Originally Posted by Roda

And that's the problem. People with preconceptions from older ff games are drawn to the class because of the name, and people who played the class and enjoyed it's playstyle and niche are both wanting different things for the class. SE caved to one group, without giving an alternative to the people who enjoyed the class that existed. There is now a huge void in the caster jobs.

For me, they almost nailed it, but they removed a huge portion of the reason why I've mained this class for so long. I now no longer have a job that 1, needs to manage dots, 2, has to deal with pet interactions, and 3, doesn't rely on elemental spell aesthetics. I'm glad that the carbuncle is still here, and, in theory, enjoy the gameplay changes from the different "summons," but that's all I've got to look forward to rn, and nothing to fill the void that the removal of my main class has left.

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I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.

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My thing is, "final fantasy summoner" has never been consistent between the games. The gameplay identity has always been kind of a mess between games, with summoners wearing more hats than just the horn. I didn't see a reason why XIV's couldn't be built off of dots and pets instead of, say, white magic and a big flashy attack. I appreciated XIV's unique take. :T
(I'm also of the opinion that there was room for more compromise between established xiv summoner and big flashy boom boom smn. But we'll see, hopefully the stuff they didn't show has more of what we've come to love about smn.)

I don't want sweeping changes to most of the jobs. Part of what excited me for Dragoon is keeping it consistent but with a needed facelift on old animations like Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust. While I'd like a little more going on for Warrior, I'm okay with the smaller additions for the same reason. Red Mage just looks like a huge QoL change with some visual flair.

All in all, I'm pretty happy with most jobs from the trailer.

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