Official HD Textures pack?

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

They had higher graphics when 1.0 was out and the game couldn't handle them. It ran like crap.

There's a reason they had to downgrade them for 2.0.

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I mean in fairness the engine was not built to handle it, it was a poorly optimised engine. But they pretty much rebuilt the engine from the ground up as the original engine had too many limitations. If I recall correctly it was a modification of the FFXIII engine, which was not built to handle an MMO like FFXIV. Plus as somebody mentioned...vases with ridiculous amount of polygons. So all-in-all it was badly done.

That said, I'd rather they focus on content, fixing things that need fixing and storytelling than graphics. Whilst I'd be happy to buy it if they made a HD texture pack for sale on the mogstation, but I'd rather not see them spend existing resource on it.

Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

I mean in fairness the engine was not built to handle it, it was a poorly optimised engine. But they pretty much rebuilt the engine from the ground up as the original engine had too many limitations. If I recall correctly it was a modification of the FFXIII engine, which was not built to handle an MMO like FFXIV. Plus as somebody mentioned...vases with ridiculous amount of polygons. So all-in-all it was badly done.

That said, I'd rather they focus on content, fixing things that need fixing and storytelling than graphics. Whilst I'd be happy to buy it if they made a HD texture pack for sale on the mogstation, but I'd rather not see them spend existing resource on it.

Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.

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It is true that the original FFXIV's engine was the same as FFXIII's.
The current version uses a fork or FFXV's, so much more adequate for open areas.

I agree that I'd prefer the devs to focus on content, however, some textures in game are very low resolution and even if the game is mostly beautiful, if you look into the details it can be very weird. The fault comes to the dev team who chose to work on very low resolutions from the start, instead of making high res ones and downscale them after. This decision was probably made because they had to rush the 2.0 version in order to be able to release it in 2013.

I do really hope that we will get a graphic overhaul at some point. The next expansion pack would be the perfect time to do it in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.

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Just out of curiosity, what is GShade?

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Originally Posted by guardin

omg stop this white knight blind rage you have going on spreading this nonsense of lies lol. Nothing is gonna be lost. They have many different teams for different parts of the game. That's like saying SE cant make other games because it'll take away from "ff14" resources.

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To be fair we have no idea how SE allocates the budget for 14, content could very well be delayed or cut if certain projects require reshuffling of resources. SE most differently does not let FFXIV keep a large sum of the overall profits FFXIV generates.

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Originally Posted by Missbone

Just out of curiosity, what is GShade?

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It's ReShade that's been tweaked to work better with FFXIV. One of the problems with ReShade is that some shaders, particularlly those that use the depth buffer can mess with your UI. Gshade doesn't mess with your UI and is packed with tonnes of presets.

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Originally Posted by guardin

omg stop this white knight blind rage you have going on spreading this nonsense of lies lol. Nothing is gonna be lost. They have many different teams for different parts of the game. That's like saying SE cant make other games because it'll take away from "ff14" resources.

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Who's white knighting? I'm not sure it means what you think it means.

At the end of the day, dev team has a budget, their resources exist within that budget and they have to allocate resources based on what they consider to be a priority. Some people would prefer than they spend that resource on other things as they are happy with the way the graphics are or they consider it a lower priority too. EG: if they spent less resource working on the story of Shadowbringers to work on making the game prettier, then the reception of Shadowbringers wouldn't have been as great as it was.

A HD graphics pack would be super nice. But I'd rather them work on more features to keep the game fun and engaging with new cool stuff, continue working on newer content and fixing problems. By all means, ask for it, but our feedback on such ideas are: "yes it'd be nice, but 'no' to it being at the expense of something else".

The moment something like an HD pack for 100 dollars comes out the backlash will be massive.

You want better graphics, you have to ask it to the devs. Not wave around your wallet in order to ruin the game for everyone else not willing to do so. Upgrades to happen, should be for all.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

your sig suggests you're at least aware of ReShade, unless i'm just seeing some gpose magic.

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Yeah, funnily enough I never considered reshade a...mod. LOL.
I used it on others games before ffxiv and it was just some filters on the screen...Like I said, totally oblivious, haha

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

It's ReShade that's been tweaked to work better with FFXIV. One of the problems with ReShade is that some shaders, particularlly those that use the depth buffer can mess with your UI. Gshade doesn't mess with your UI and is packed with tonnes of presets.

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Hm never had any issues with my UI, but i think i will try it out of curiosity. thx

Atm the only way to get any Higher definition effects is to Mod the game. Its a grey area of course its not officially sanctioned BUT almost no company bothers to act against those doing cosmetic mods as they dont alter the gameplay mechanics or have any malicious effects.

Theres a modding community out there thats included quite a few things like higher quality hair, longer hair than normal, modded costumes, HQ eyes, HQ base bodies the infamous nude ones but also SFW Versions with HQ underwear etc. Im actually suprised SE isnt interested in Hiring some of these people as many mods are really good and honestly some could easily be incorporated into the game very easily.

Most none online games I had installed enb on them. Makes the games look amazing.

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Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira

yep, yoshi p gets asked this in almost every interview and has given the same reasons to everyone. They'd rather work on future content than spend the manhours creating HD textures for the millions of assets they have in game. He doesn't believe in staying competitive in the market "because the game is the prettiest" but rather staying competitive with its content.

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I just want better character models. All of say, Limsa, shouldn't be looking better than my clay self.

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Originally Posted by Raiya

Atm the only way to get any Higher definition effects is to Mod the game. Its a grey area of course its not officially sanctioned BUT almost no company bothers to act against those doing cosmetic mods as they dont alter the gameplay mechanics or have any malicious effects.

Theres a modding community out there thats included quite a few things like higher quality hair, longer hair than normal, modded costumes, HQ eyes, HQ base bodies the infamous nude ones but also SFW Versions with HQ underwear etc. Im actually suprised SE isnt interested in Hiring some of these people as many mods are really good and honestly some could easily be incorporated into the game very easily.

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IRC, don't their hires have to be fluent in Japanese?

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

IRC, don't their hires have to be fluent in Japanese?

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They have to, and that's one of the problem, they don't have much people to choose from, if we compare it to international companies. Especially since mobage developing is more valuable and profitable nowadays for younger blood.

If they do something graphics wise that's will be with 6.0 or 7.0 when they will start using DX12.
PS5 officially announced and releases end of 2020.
That means that the next expansion which prolly coming summer 2021 will have to support it.
FFXIV could also benefit from HDR capability.
But textures need an upgrade badly.

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Originally Posted by NanaWiloh

There most likely will never be HD textures cause SE never created any. They designed the game using the current textures that you see, So they would have to make HD textures from scratch.

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I mean no, if you think that the resolution the textures are in on the screen are the resolutions that the textures were created in you're mistaken. Textures are usually created at insanely high resolutions and then just compressed to fit whatever space limitations they have. Somewhere, on some system, they have the uncompressed textures and they are much much higher res than what we have.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

If they do it be brought out ffxiv remake with new hd package. When they ever going to add dx12. At least they could bring out a ENB program for it. Reshade is pretty good but think enb might be a little better.

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ENB is made by a private developer, who himself said will never make one for ff14, in fact who also had some not so subtle choice words about the game and the players here.

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Originally Posted by Chrisnetika

ENB is made by a private developer, who himself said will never make one for ff14, in fact who also had some not so subtle choice words about the game and the players here.

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He's also a massive homophobe. Any opinion he has might as well be irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by TheRogueX

I mean no, if you think that the resolution the textures are in on the screen are the resolutions that the textures were created in you're mistaken. Textures are usually created at insanely high resolutions and then just compressed to fit whatever space limitations they have. Somewhere, on some system, they have the uncompressed textures and they are much much higher res than what we have.

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I believe that Yoshi-P himself explicitly stated in an interview they actually didn't have "high-res" textures and that what they had in the game was indeed the highest resolution they made.