What does sch do now with no dps options

Scholar main here, I have to say I'm super glad I have a friend who mains white mage. Gives me a reason to go and play something that isn't being gutted of all of its uniqueness. 5.0 dancer main here I come!

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Originally Posted by Yulja

even the pet management is gone.

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Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case :) never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.

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Originally Posted by fantasticm

Continue to be the best healer in the game but be bored to tears while doing so.

In a fast-paced, damage-heavy game, 'not dying' would be its own reward. Neither of those things describe FFXIV though, so I guess... maybe SCH can solo heal most if not all 8-mans now? I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

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We will have to see what kind of damage comes with the new content, but if I'm looking exclusively at the healing kit, SCH is really strong. And without Energy Drain, and with Dissipation, I would say that SCH will have a lot of aetherflow stacks to dump in heals. So, maybe solo heal meta isn't that far fetched.

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case :) never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.

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You bring joy to my heart. Almost a week after the job changes preview, you are the first message I see of someone who is not a healer at the moment that is considering trying it.

One point I've been trying to express on multiple platforms is that even if the changes play-and-feel good when Shadowbringers release, there is little to no "hype" for the healer roles prior to the expansion. This by itself is a failure of SE.

I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.

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Originally Posted by KarnSalander

You bring joy to my heart. Almost a week after the job changes preview, you are the first message I see of someone who is not a healer at the moment that is considering trying it.

One point I've been trying to express on multiple platforms is that even if the changes play-and-feel good when Shadowbringers release, there is little to no "hype" for the healer roles prior to the expansion. This by itself is a failure of SE.

I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.

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Aww thx Haha:) yeah I'm a PLD main (sucker for the whole holy warrior jive) have been since HW. But I always keep at least one of every role maxed and my healer role has always been WHM simply because they don't have to shuffle cards around or manage a pet :3 if sch pet is gonna be fully independent, that speaks my interest considerably!

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Originally Posted by KarnSalander

I've bought my copy of ShB. I'll play it. I'll even probably continue healing it. But I cannot say I'm excited for the expansion.

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No offense, but such blind-faith support and attitudes like this are the reason WHY they don't care about healers. If SE knows we'll take it, then this is what they're going to keep doing to our jobs every chance they get.

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Originally Posted by AncientCrystal

Shut up

OverHeal

And do mechanics

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Hiya

I fixed this for you.

You're welcome <3

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Aww thx Haha:) yeah I'm a PLD main (sucker for the whole holy warrior jive) have been since HW. But I always keep at least one of every role maxed and my healer role has always been WHM simply because they don't have to shuffle cards around or manage a pet :3 if sch pet is gonna be fully independent, that speaks my interest considerably!

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New healer inbound :)

It seems like it's time for Sacred Soil to shine. It was probably one of the least used parts of the toolkit for many Scholars including myself but now that we don't have energy drain and still want to avoid over healing it will definitely be the safe option in the lower level content before the Regen Trait kicks in. The fact it always had a chance to grant a MP free Succor made it seem like the devs thought we would be using it more and now we are kind of forced to if we want to dump stacks. I think the only way to truly cement it as part of the Scholars arsenal though is to give the mp gain we lost in Energy Drain to Sacred Soil. Getting that refresh would definitely make it a core part of our gameplay.

Yes, give me more healing queues.

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Really? I might actually get into playing SCH at some point if this is the case :) never was fond of the idea of micromanaging a pet.

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At current, it is not mandatory to do so, the AI isn’t terrible for faeries and I know people who choose to not micromanage the pet. I see no issue somebody playing Scholar like this and it’s optional.

However, it will affect players like myself who enjoy that aspect.

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Originally Posted by ThaliaEmphas

So with healing dps being changed I'm very concerned about the raid scene.

With a prepull spread adlo. And eos heals there will be a period of time for gcds that are not healing before is required. Withthe changes all they can do is spam the 1 keywhich just seems dull.

If paired with Whm or ast the firstraid wide and autos will be mitigated by the shield then healed up by an aszie or earthy star. Leaving the sch to spam the 1 key

So how many gcds of spamming the 1 key will be required before they need to do something else 9/10? How many times do we spam the same key before it gets boring

In addition the reward for getting better isn't a more optimised rotation but more time spamming the 1 key... So why bother to get better

Not saying sch is completely ruined it just looks dull to play now. They look to have amazing ogd heals when they are needed but what are they expected to we've them between. And why should they bother when there is no reward for playing better?

I've never played another mmo so can't compare but how do they reward healers for playing well... Do they just stand around doing nothing?

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stop being such an attention seeker. its aint change that much. just dps and do mechs. for the love of lalafells...did we really need a thread about another empty complaint?

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Originally Posted by ThaliaEmphas

What do sch do now with no dps options... Do they just stand around doing nothing?

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They will do the same as both other healers already do.
Single Target: Heal > Dot - Broil - Broil .... Dot etc
Groups: Heal > Dot -Dot - Dot - AOE or AOE - AOE - AOE (depending on number of mobs, potencies and mana costs at release)

Is it great to loose some spells? no, of course not.
Is it the end of the world? NO