Female outfits

Glam that doesnt look utter shit on a male character is hard.

Glam that looks nice on females is suuuuuuuuuper easy.

Most every glam looks better on a female vs male too, including the above mentioned iconic male character sets.

Here's Zidane's look. It is now going to look better on every female than any male character, please to be enjoy.

Only if i can wear them

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Originally Posted by Barraind

Glam that looks nice on females is suuuuuuuuuper easy.

Most every glam looks better on a female vs male too, including the above mentioned iconic male character sets.

Here's Zidane's look. It is now going to look better on every female than any male character, please to be enjoy.

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Telling female character players "shush the non-xiv FF male glams look fine on you anyway, be happy" is literally telling us we should be happy to settle for less. The Zidane outfit looking good on my character doesn't change the fact that there is such little representation of the non-xiv female characters.

I don't want to dress up like Zidane. I want to dress up like the female characters I love, but there's only two non-xiv female glams and most players only have access to one because the other was from a paid fanfest ticket. Meanwhile there is quite a lot of non-xiv male glams.

I grew up being forced to play mostly male characters in the games I played. Now I'm playing a female character and being told I should be happy to wear boy's clothes just because they fit nicely. Why can't I be a girl who gets to wear clothes designed for girls? I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa or Selphie.

And as an aside I think gender locked clothes is terrible. Let everyone wear what they want.

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I would just like to see more female outfits given as rewards. As a female in real life i want the outfits from characters like Tifa, Garnet etc. I just feel a bit let down that all my veteran rewards where of Clouds, Squall and other male outfits. Now we have Balthiers...i must admit one of my fave characters but i would just like to say to the devs please can we have some female character outfits added. I know we have Yuna but more would be nice.

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They've added Wind-Up Tifa. Maybe there's hope the Tifa outfit is not far behind.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Telling female character players "shush the non-xiv FF male glams look fine on you anyway, be happy" is literally telling us we should be happy to settle for less. The Zidane outfit looking good on my character doesn't change the fact that there is such little representation of the non-xiv female characters.

I don't want to dress up like Zidane. I want to dress up like the female characters I love, but there's only two non-xiv female glams and most players only have access to one because the other was from a paid fanfest ticket. Meanwhile there is quite a lot of non-xiv male glams.

I grew up being forced to play mostly male characters in the games I played. Now I'm playing a female character and being told I should be happy to wear boy's clothes just because they fit nicely. Why can't I be a girl who gets to wear clothes designed for girls? I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa or Selphie.

And as an aside I think gender locked clothes is terrible. Let everyone wear what they want.

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The major problem with those as vet rewards is that a variation of "shirt, jacket, pants, shoes, gloves" is pretty unisex, where flowy green dress, taylor swif... Rinoa's dress + boots, long peach dress and a few variations on bare middrift + booty shorts isnt.

The male glams from vet rewards have all been shirt/jacket, shoes, gloves, pants" and the one female character with maybe adaptable glam is... already in on the mog store.

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Originally Posted by Barraind

The major problem with those as vet rewards is that a variation of "shirt, jacket, pants, shoes, gloves" is pretty unisex, where flowy green dress, taylor swif... Rinoa's dress + boots, long peach dress and a few variations on bare middrift + booty shorts isnt.

The male glams from vet rewards have all been shirt/jacket, shoes, gloves, pants" and the one female character with maybe adaptable glam is... already in on the mog store.

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You are reaching. The Yuna outfit has no leg slot. The chest and legs are rolled into one chest piece so isn't "an adaptable" glam, so that rules out that argument. The jacket and pants argument is weak...how much gear have we got in the game that is flowy and has cut outs revealing skin usable by both genders? A lot.

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Originally Posted by Barraind

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The problem with unisex is it usually means a male thing that society thinks is okay for females to use. Rarely the reverse. A lot of female character players aren't happy with merely men's clothes that look alright. Again; I don't want to dress up as Zidane, I want to dress up as Garnet.

Anyway that argument is flawed as well given that there is a large amount of gender locked gear obtainable in-game and from the mog-station. One of those outfits on the mog station is from a non-xiv character. SE have done it once, they can do it again.

I'm starting to think your argument boils down to "but I don't think male characters would look good in those clothes" and/or "SE won't let male characters wear them". Sorry but those are not good enough reasons to force us into mostly male clothes if we want to dress up as a non-xiv FF character.

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Originally Posted by Edax

They've added Wind-Up Tifa. Maybe there's hope the Tifa outfit is not far behind.

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I hope so ^O^

I was referring to the veteran rewards as most have said...I think maybe they should have done male or female versions but I guess that would have been too much trouble.

I'd love Lightning's FFXIII-2 outfit so much...


Also: Can we get the Dreams of the Fayth buyable from Achievement points? I'd kill for the boots...

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I'm starting to think your argument boils down to "but I don't think male characters would look good in those clothes" and/or "SE won't let male characters wear them". Sorry but those are not good enough reasons to force us into mostly male clothes if we want to dress up as a non-xiv FF character.

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I think the actual issue is that the devs have little incentive to make both a male and female outfit when most players will be satisfied with just the male one. Add onto that that whenever they do add male-only outfits, a ton of female characters say, "We want to wear that too!" and the devs get the impression that it's much more effective to just make male-based gear that everyone can wear.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I agree with this mindset. In my ideal world we'd be getting Fran's outfit along with Balthier's, Garnet's outfit along with Zidane's etc, and both genders would be able to wear all of them (and nothing would ever be added to Mog Station again). Unfortunately, given the history of this game, I'm not holding out hope for it.

What does it matter what your gender in real life is, anyone with a female character should be supporting this regardless.

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Originally Posted by Beckett

I think the actual issue is that the devs have little incentive to make both a male and female outfit when most players will be satisfied with just the male one.

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The devs have created a freaking huge amount of gender locked cosmetic gear obtainable in-game and in the mog station. We even had some more added recently, and we'll get even more in the future. It just so happens that only two out of the lot are of non-xiv female characters. This claim that the devs don't have incentive to create female outfits is simply false...because why would they consistently create them if they didn't? There are even gender locked hairstyles with some of those outfits.

Also a gigantic amount of characters are female, I'd wager more than half are. It's in SE's interest to give them more things to wear that are made for them and not just hand-me-down sets of men's clothes when it comes to non-xiv FF characters, because frankly they could make a lot of money from it. I have been wearing my Yuna outfit a lot recently on two characters and I have gotten pms asking me where I got it, and each of these people were disappointed to find out it's no longer obtainable. Some of them may have bought it if the option was still there.

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Originally Posted by Beckett

Add onto that that whenever they do add male-only outfits, a ton of female characters say, "We want to wear that too!" and the devs get the impression that it's much more effective to just make male-based gear that everyone can wear.

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If SE can redesign male clothes to be usable by female characters, then surely they can do the reverse. We have male bunny outfits now, and very few FF character outfits can boast being more stereotypically feminine than that, or more sexualised than that. The bunny outfit is literally one step away from letting males wear bikinis. So if SE can do that, why can't we get something much more modest like Rinoa's outfit?

They already design most of the healer and much of the caster gear to be rather feminine (even on male characters, I'd say to the detriment of consumer experience).

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Originally Posted by Penthea

The devs have created a freaking huge amount of gender locked cosmetic gear obtainable in-game and in the mog station. We even had some more added recently, and we'll get even more in the future. It just so happens that only two out of the lot are of non-xiv female characters. This claim that the devs don't have incentive to create female outfits is simply false...because why would they consistently create them if they didn't? There are even gender locked hairstyles with some of those outfits.

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I was looking at it from the point of in-game items, because why anyone would ever want something added to mog station instead of in-game is beyond me. Of course the devs have incentive to create female gear for the mog station, because they see direct profit from that.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

If SE can redesign male clothes to be usable by female characters, then surely they can do the reverse.

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100% agree. I think gender locking any gear makes no sense, and only limits the options we have available.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

How would the first one lead to complaints?

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Touche. Women's clothing looking bad on men is a social stigma anyways.

One thing that has to be said though is that the reason they probably have released more Male FF costumes over the Female is that Women will look just as good as Men in those costumes and require minimal modification than the other way around lets face it Women look good in almost anything where as it just doesnt work the other way just coming out plain wrong. Men just do not look good in the female costumes it mostly does not work. To take Tifa's costume for example a tank top and mini skirt just doesnt work for men it they would have to change parts of the costume to actually look decent on a male body most likely replacing the tank top with a sleeveless shirt and mini skirt with some shorts. It would be nearly bringing out a seperate costume.

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Originally Posted by Raiya

To take Tifa's costume for example a tank top and mini skirt just doesnt work for men it they would have to change parts of the costume to actually look decent on a male body most likely replacing the tank top with a sleeveless shirt and mini skirt with some shorts. It would be nearly bringing out a seperate costume.

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I hate that concept almost as much as I hate gender locking gear. If they were to make Aymeric's outfit "suitable for females" by giving it a mini skirt and a boob window, people would rightfully throw a fit. They don't want to wear a "female version" of Aymeric's outfit, they want to wear Aymeric's outfit! I know can't stand when I get a piece of gear, expecting it to be one thing, and then it morphs into something completely different because my character is male.

I said earlier that guys would be upset if "reward" gear were designed for females, but you know what? With the new system for trading in achievement points, there's really no reason they can't add Tifa and Rinoa and Garnet's outfits to Jonathas' list of items. Not only do the male equivalents already exist, but if they made it so both genders could use those outfits, it would deflate the sails of would-be complainers, since they wouldn't technically be female-exclusive.