Why would a BLM meld mind in gear? Does this game do a poor job in explaining stats?

Tbh I'd prefer no melds over bad melds. No melds can be explained with laziness, but bad melds screams inexperience, bad melds are always followed by the person not using a proper rotation and doing less damage than a tank, since they can't be bothered to read the stat tooltip or ask people what's their main stat it's very likely they won't bother reading the tooltip of skills either.

This is how ice mages are born.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

doesn't really matter how cheap it is. gear is all just throw away junk...

why meld my 260 body when in a couple of weeks it'll be 270?
why bother melding that when 4.0 is around the corner?i'm already 40 ilevels above the content so why bother with materia..

there's your reasons people don't bother melding stuff because there's just no point..
food and meds are pretty much exactly the same... nothing lasts long enough to make it worth investing in even a little bit.

if gear lasted and wasn't replaced every single patch i'd blow millions of gill trying to squeeze every single point of stats I could onto it. but when it just gets tossed who cares...

it's why people don't even look at the stats. just grab any piece that's higher ilevel and carry on... augmented shire bracelets or proto ultima.. grab the ultima even if there worse just because then I can use my coin to augment a left side instead of a right....

As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain or phykik when they solo with titan........ who knows....

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Maybe it is just me but killing stuff faster or healing more so you can dps more, is worth 1-2k per meld using IVs at least. Not melding at all is just lazyness or they plan to do an upgrade in a few days (not weeks) also not melding > melds that do nothing to your job (like stated in the post above mine) since it reflects not experienced.

Also melding and food is very important when your doing stuff in likes of salvage. My friend noticed the difference of not melding in 8 slots i think it was? off doing the a12s dummy from upgrading those slots and wanted to see if there was an observable difference.

With that said, even now, your main job should have V materia in it, one you use the most

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

And you made a whole thread plus a LS convo dedicated to one fool? Is this really worth our attention?

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not really :P

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

And you made a whole thread plus a LS convo dedicated to one fool? Is this really worth our attention?

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check bolds please

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

I asked but I did not get a clear answer so I just advised how to remove them. My friend was asking about this in a private lsto another and this was the convo:

This game does an awful job of explaining stats :\
what ya mean? i put my cursor over it and says "affects healing magic spells"
Yeah, but they'd have to actually lok at that to know
it doesn't say "Mind does this" when you pick up BLM

I saw that BLM in wall today in expert roulette before reset, fully upgraded shire, with mind V melds.

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reminded me of this:

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Originally Posted by lvlagmarink

The scenario is like this:
A player makes a party finder for The Final Coil of Bahamut: Turn 4, some players join in and they get themself a full party. Once the party leader tries to queue T13, the party leader will get a red warning message with something like "someone doesn't meet the requirement for this duty" but the thing is, the message doesnt tell the party leader who doesnt meet the requirement.. However that someone who doesnt meet the requirement will get a red warning message saying the player doesn't meet the requirement for the duty.. In an utopia, the player who doesn't meet the requirement should excuse themself and apologize for entering the wrong pf that player doesn't qualify for but in reality, most players don't even notice they are at fault and they ignore the red warning message in their screen simply (in my subjective wordings) because their reading comprehension is questionable once they decide to join up a duty which they havent unlocked to begin with..

The fix should be simple:
1. A warning message should tell the party leader who doesnt meet the requirement so something can be done instead of disbanding or making the party stagnant.
2. The player who has either not unlocked or got themself penalty from leaving a duty shouldn't be able to join in a pf in the first place.

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I thought private ls was common due to the ps3 limitation of "unable to send tell while in duty"

Gotta boost that Physick

I mean what needs done here? You get a very detailed description of what the stats do in the character sheet. What more is needed? A big flashing pop-up when you meld an odd stat.

"OMG DON'T USE MND!!!! BLM USE INT!!!!"

I mean that's all I can think of. Maybe instead of more hand holding players could take a minute, read, use google, or ask literally anyone who has played for more then 6 months?

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

And you made a whole thread plus a LS convo dedicated to one fool? Is this really worth our attention?

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I like Ama's threads :(

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

Its possible they might do something similar by removing cleric stance.

Devil's advocate on this.. but why not do the same with STR/DEX? Or even all 4 stats?

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Tbh since they removed the increased block chance from dex and the increased parry strength from str, we wouldn't lose anything if all 4 were merged into a single stat called "Power".

im not really sure what you are trying to achieve with all of these threads ur opening lately :P bad melds no melds who cares :P first world problems? ^^

are u playing with the mind blm in a raid group? :P no?

also ur not the first person to rage on these forums , if u think something needs improvement suure lets all have it , but the rest of ur post is just useless fuel for a fire ^^ and it dosnt add anything off worth to a discussion, to talk about how bad someone else is .

so pls keep ur rage outburst for urself ^^

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Originally Posted by Khemorex

im not really sure what you are trying to achieve with all of these threads ur opening lately :P bad melds no melds who cares :P first world problems? ^^

are u playing with the mind blm in a raid group? :P no?

also ur not the first person to rage on these forums , if u think something needs improvement suure lets all have it , but the rest of ur post is just useless fuel for a fire ^^ and it doesn't add anything off worth to a discussion, to talk about how bad someone else is .

so pls keep ur rage outburst for urself ^^

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I find a lot of the "outrage" threads/posts are all for attention. "Look at me and how outraged I am! I'm mad at the big bad community/SE/exc and am not afraid to stand up to them all by myself. Aren't I amazing! Sure there are actual problems in the world but hey, this one is small but I can make a big deal out of it for all the attention! YAY ME!!!!"


My four and eight year old both do this.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Also melding and food is very important when your doing stuff in likes of salvage. My friend noticed the difference of not melding in 8 slots i think it was? off doing the a12s dummy from upgrading those slots and wanted to see if there was an observable difference.

With that said, even now, your main job should have V materia in it, one you use the most

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t5s on your main job:- some of the stronger t5s are still 150k ish so to fully meld ya main job with it is a good couple of million gils. for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding..

even when you can get t5 materia free. the 150k is more valuable to you than a melded piece of junk

its the same reason people don't really look at stats and just go for the highest ilevel piece. because its just temporary anyway and once again it's 30-40 ilevels above virtually all content it really doesn't matter if the stats aren't optimal.....

it's been said a lot by a lot of players that if gear actually felt valuable people would actually be a lot more willing to invest in it....
if the rewards from savage content actually had any value then more people would try savage.. where again it's been said so many times. why bother with savage when the rewards are just gonna be junk or there'll be easier alternatives. maybe not quite as good secondaries but goes back to the first point of who cares....

all reasons why people don't bother melding stuff.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

doesn't really matter how cheap it is. gear is all just throw away junk...

why meld my 260 body when in a couple of weeks it'll be 270?
why bother melding that when 4.0 is around the corner?
i'm already 40 ilevels above the content so why bother with materia..

there's your reasons people don't bother melding stuff because there's just no point..
food and meds are pretty much exactly the same... nothing lasts long enough to make it worth investing in even a little bit.

if gear lasted and wasn't replaced every single patch i'd blow millions of gill trying to squeeze every single point of stats I could onto it. but when it just gets tossed who cares...

it's why people don't even look at the stats. just grab any piece that's higher ilevel and carry on... augmented shire bracelets or proto ultima.. grab the ultima even if there worse just because then I can use my coin to augment a left side instead of a right....

As for the blm melding mind I unno. maybe they play smn and use it to bolster sustain or phykik when they solo with titan........ who knows....

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This half-ass way of thinking and playing is part of the problem.

Pure laziness.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

t5s on your main job:- some of the stronger t5s are still 150k ish so to fully meld ya main job with it is a good couple of million gils. for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding..
even when you can get t5 materia free. the 150k is more valuable to you than a melded piece of junk

its the same reason people don't really look at stats and just go for the highest ilevel piece. because its just temporary anyway and once again it's 30-40 ilevels above virtually all content it really doesn't matter if the stats aren't optimal.....

it's been said a lot by a lot of players that if gear actually felt valuable people would actually be a lot more willing to invest in it....
if the rewards from savage content actually had any value then more people would try savage.. where again it's been said so many times. why bother with savage when the rewards are just gonna be junk or there'll be easier alternatives. maybe not quite as good secondaries but goes back to the first point of who cares....

all reasons why people don't bother melding stuff.

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say whaaa? it is 30k-50k here...
is your economy just hugely inflated?
Only thing I seen 150k recently is spiked elemental materia

My friend has 2 jobs of pure V materia

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

say whaaa? it is 30k-50k here...
is your economy just hugely inflated?
Only thing I seen 150k recently is spiked elemental materia

My friend has 2 jobs of pure V materia

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Larger server populations almost invariably reduce the price of goods sold via market boards/auction houses/whatever, unless some special factor is in play.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

This half-ass way of thinking and playing is part of the problem.

Pure laziness.

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It's not even laziness.....
We do already outgear the content by a lot. Materia is just pointless unless you are min maxing. Not melding isn't a problem in the slightest. What IS a problem is community enforced elitist meta that really makes no difference in completing content in a timely manner but instead gives people who care another reason to dictate what they think others should do because "OMG you don't meld your gear, I'm carrying you scrub."

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

It's not even laziness.....
We do already outgear the content by a lot. Materia is just pointless unless you are min maxing. Not melding isn't a problem in the slightest. What IS a problem is community enforced elitist meta that really makes no difference in completing content in a timely manner but instead gives people who care another reason to dictate what they think others should do because "OMG you don't meld your gear, I'mcarrying you scrub."

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yeahhh... no..
It does not make a difference to those that do not know best rotations or going as fast as possible say like lore farming or lights. If you have someone in max gear but not have melds, you will notice things take a bit longer just by phases skipped and such. It does not make a difference of completing something, but saying it makes no time difference is pretty off. Also 24 people you will not notice if one person is not melded but if a good number are not melded, you notice a speed difference there too.

Please don't misinform people. It is one thing to say it does not effect your ability to clear something, but a whole another thing to say it does not effect speed at all.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

yeahhh... no..
It does not make a difference to those that do not know best rotations or going as fast as possible say like lore farming or lights. If you have someone in max gear but not have melds, you will notice things take a bit longer just by phases skipped and such. It does not make a difference of completing something, but saying it makes no time difference is pretty off. Also 24 people you will not notice if one person is not melded but if a good number are not melded, you notice a speed difference there too.

Please don't misinform people. It is one thing to say it does not effect your ability to clear something, but a whole another thing to say it does not effect speed at all.

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Melds make up less than 1% of your BiS stat weights. it won't be a significant change in dps.

Hey BLM meld MND would be still better than a lot of ppl who do not meld anything and leave the slots empty! ^^;

Why you don't feel so surprise for those 270 empty slots ppl?

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Originally Posted by Dzian

....for something you're just gonna toss /upgrade in a couple of weeks it's just not worth it. this is why most people don't even bother melding......

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All gears in this game are ongoing being replaced in a couple of weeks.
Just meld IV even III if you need to save gil. ^^; Empty slots is really a waste.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

All gears in this game are ongoing being replaced in a couple of weeks.
Just meld IV even III if you need to save gil. ^^; Empty slots is really a waste.

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Why not save that gil for melding level 70 gear? Or buying glamours?

A friend of mine says they vendor or market their materia that they find. I went to correct them, but I didn't have an argument to stand on. Materia doesn't make enough of a difference. Its pretty bad when glamour serves a better purpose than affixing materia.

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

Why not save that gil for melding level 70 gear? Or buying glamours?...

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Bcoz empty slots really looks poor...! just fill in the holes! ^^;
meld a IV or below just 1-2K, it makes the ppl not look like lazy and the intention of just saving the V, it worths!

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Originally Posted by Kaethra

Why not save that gil for melding level 70 gear? Or buying glamours?

A friend of mine says they vendor or market their materia that they find. I went to correct them, but I didn't have an argument to stand on. Materia doesn't make enough of a difference. Its pretty bad when glamour serves a better purpose than affixing materia.

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Erm...

Vendoring materia is the second worst thing you can do with them behind destroying them. Materia that aren't going in gear go on the market board.

IMO, materia is something for those how want to be optimal/care about parses. Outside that there's no point.

For those how play casually or don't know how to play their jobs, there's little to no reason to meld, but for those who actually know what they are doing and know their job fully/care about being optimal.. Ye.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Bcoz empty slots really looks poor...! just fill in the holes! ^^;
meld a IV or below just 1-2K, it makes the ppl not look like lazy and the intention of just saving the V, it worths!

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I think I can safely say I'm not alone in that I could not care less if others think my empty holes look bad or not. Fill your own and be happy. Don't try to force the rest of us to fill our holes too.

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Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi

I think I can safely say I'm not alone in that I could not care less if others think my empty holes look bad or not. Fill your own and be happy. Don't try to force the rest of us to fill our holes too.

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Who can force you? I mean the gear will be poor, not the player. Tho you got me wrong. ^^;

well at least the gear was decent enough to not be a detriment, they probably wanted to see how high their physiks could get

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

Erm...

Vendoring materia is the second worst thing you can do with them behind destroying them. Materia that aren't going in gear go on the market board.

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Reread what I said. Come on now.

Materia's on gear are a CAN do NOT a HAVE TO ! o_O

I has some lv5 Materia for Max MP on my caster gears cuz I find it annoying having 9900MP XP