Post Mutant Weapons(i280) You've Seen So Far

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Still at work and haven't had a chance to dive in yet, what got worse?

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It's no less tedious than old diadem but now you have to move around and can end up with fates ending too soon etc, and all the gear is personal potd-style trade-ins now so you can't lot on things based on your job, or benefit from organize a party of people seeking different loot. Fates are just killing mobs which we were doing already without having to jump around every few minutes.

And if you don't have a group with a decisive leader you end up with half the party deciding one fate is closer/more time left than another and not getting much done as a result.

It's like SE heard that people wanted to not stay in the same spot mindlessly killing, and focused more on "moving around mindlessly killing" instead of what should have happened; "moving around accomplishing different kinds of things". And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.

So has anyone seen any other mutant 280s that I want to ~die looking at~?

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

It's no less tedious than old diadem but now you have to move around and can end up with fates ending too soon etc, and all the gear is personal potd-style trade-ins now so you can't lot on things based on your job, or benefit from organize a party of people seeking different loot. Fates are just killing mobs which we were doing already without having to jump around every few minutes.

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So if you go in as say NIN, you could get loot for some other job when completing the FATEs like SCH? That seems a little annoying.

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Originally Posted by Fuma

Each FATE takes around 15 mins or a trip into diadem is over in 15 mins? Or do we still get 60 mins in there?

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i'll try to make it more detailed then. Using battle version for to keep it simple.

Once you enter you'll have a progress bar and an objective. The Whole zone will be covered in FATES(from what i've done they're very quick ones too) but there's a huge purple divide keeping you from reaching the lower islands.
The progress bar takes ~3 fates to clear and the objective is just like "go to this spot and kill 6 mobs"
then you'll get another objective and bar to fill
after that your done and a reward bag drops on the ground

now that the quest is done points will appear around the map that let you cross to the lower islands(you lose flying in the lower area as well)
but basically your still just doing FATES, boss FATES spawn in the lower area that are kind of like fighting level 50 S rank hunts and notorius monsters spawn anywhere they're marked with something like a (~)
boss fates and the NM's drop more chests and broken chests than normal FATES

after about half an hour the emergency FATE will spawn which is akin to the big FATES with different music you come across in heavensward or behemoth/odin. This FATE is the one that can reward a weapon or just a lot of chests.

the chests are turned in for random junk, brass spoils, or pink gear

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Originally Posted by Nihility

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Great, thank you for explaining! I'm excited to try it when I get home but not too excited as it's sounding like what I expected rather than what I had hoped, lol.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.

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A friend of mine said found some actually

Has anyone figured out what the Mhachi portal in the Missing Gem is for yet?

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

And old diadem had buried coffers which could get you loot and even spawn bosses if you were dilligent enough (or at least contribute to popping tracks), and that's also gone.

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I know you can get bronze coffers from Corrupted Sprites and there are silver and gold coffers too, just don't know where...

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

So has anyone seen any other mutant 280s that I want to ~die looking at~?

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It's a hyperbole, few people get lucky and people think it's a dilemma, far as I've seen you'll be lucky if 1 person in the whole group gets a weapon drop, you'll be lucky if you get to fight the boss during the hour you are in. With those variables in mind if people did the content 24/7 there is a 1/24 chance that a person may get a weapon if the boss spawns, if you beat it, etc. It's honestly amusing because how many times have people complained "What's the point of this new content if the gear is already outdated." and now SE actually puts in a weapon that's better than all content in the game and people are crying "How could they do this, add in better gear with the new content!" You can't win, people are going to complain either way and this is coming from someone who completed their anima. I don't care that these 280 weapons drop, it's intriguing honestly and until we see how it pans out in a month we can't know what the odds of getting one are.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Has anyone figured out what the Mhachi portal in the Missing Gem is for yet?


I know you can get bronze coffers from Corrupted Sprites and there are silver and gold coffers too, just don't know where...

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That's where you go when the Emergency Mission pops. Don't think it has any other relevance.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

after about half an hour the emergency FATE will spawn which is akin to the big FATES with different music you come across in heavensward or behemoth/odin. This FATE is the one that can reward a weapon or just a lot of chests.

the chests are turned in for random junk, brass spoils, or pink gear

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**MIGHT** spawn, not "will spawn" we got one NM (at 54 mins in) & no Emergency Mission FATE at all. It's purely RNG that *may* be influenced by the amount of FATEs done & Corrupted Sprites killed but that is unverified.

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

So has anyone seen any other mutant 280s that I want to ~die looking at~?

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Not mine.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Not mine.

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Wow, that's awesome! You got lucky XD

I'll be sticking with my anima, I'm attached to it, but that'd be cool to get!

P.S. Still don't care that she got that, and I feel no hatred or anger toward anyone who would get something similar. Good for them!

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Well looks like they'll have +3 more weapon damage, slightly more main stats, 3-4 secondaries as opposed to 2. So I'd say it makes the Anima weapons obsolete already IF you acquire a Diadem weapon.

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And if the RNG smiles upon you and you get useful stats...

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Originally Posted by TaurielKyudo

Wow, that's awesome! You got lucky XD

I'll be sticking with my anima, I'm attached to it, but that'd be cool to get!

P.S. Still don't care that she got that, and I feel no hatred or anger toward anyone who would get something similar. Good for them!

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lol you even quoted them saying "not mine"

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Not mine.

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*Initializing jealousy procedures*

Anybody got the secondary stats for the BLM rod?

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Originally Posted by iLyrica-sama

Anybody got the secondary stats for the BLM rod?

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Randomized like all of these.

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Originally Posted by Felis

It allow you not to update your weapon between lv 61 and 69

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As will the Alexander, Augmented Shire and Lux weapons. Hence my point. The chances of you getting these i280 weapons is stupidly rare, but SE needed something to entice people to actually do the new Diadem. What better way than something they know will "piss off" a group of people that don't stop and consider things. You know, how Wondrous Tails added in HQ gear with 5 slots- if you're ever lucky enough to get 3 lines.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

As will the Alexander, Augmented Shire and Lux weapons. Hence my point. The chances of you getting these i280 weapons is stupidly rare, but SE needed something to entice people to actually do the new Diadem. What better way than something they know will "piss off" a group of people that don't stop and consider things. You know, how Wondrous Tails added in HQ gear with 5 slots- if you're ever lucky enough to get 3 lines.

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If you are running in i275 weapons at level 69, I would hate to be in your party.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Neither will any Stormblood items matter when the next expansion comes out. Nor will anything of that expansion matter when the next one will come out. Nor will any of the items from that expansion matter when the next one comes out. And one day, earth will cease to exist so everything is for Alphinaught.

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Maybe people can stop using that argument now that they know how silly it sounds.

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Originally Posted by Maero

So they made something not very enjoyable to something even more tedious? :(
I guess having 280 weapons was only to get people to actually go to Diadem.

What the future holds> players may as well not waste time with Relics and such

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I wouldn't say it's more tedious now. You do at least have a sense of direction.

After that though, yes it's just fate grinding. As much as the old diadem was bad, I do miss one thing. It felt like you weren't alone. At least 20 others were around fighting those same damn dinosaurs with you for an hour.
Here, you're just with your party. Makes it feel kinda lonely.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

As will the Alexander, Augmented Shire and Lux weapons. Hence my point. The chances of you getting these i280 weapons is stupidly rare, but SE needed something to entice people to actually do the new Diadem. What better way than something they know will "piss off" a group of people that don't stop and consider things. You know, how Wondrous Tails added in HQ gear with 5 slots- if you're ever lucky enough to get 3 lines.

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I've gotten 3 lines several times so far & two lines several times more. It's not that rare. Unfortunately, I always seem to get the three/two lines when crap is on offer. >_>

not mine.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

not mine.

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I want those, and they are the primary reason why I'll be doing Diadem

Just so you know it's like 1/5000 chance per entry to get a weapon for your job (and it can have poor substats or just one), so it's extremelly likely you'll not get it before 4.0. Let's be a bit realistic here.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Just so you know it's like 1/5000 chance per entry to get a weapon for your job (and it can have poor substats or just one), so it's extremelly likely you'll not get it before 4.0. Let's be a bit realistic here.

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1.39% chance you'll get one out of 72 people. 7.69% it'll be for your main. Unknown % it will have good side stats.

Did Diadem twice last night. Got my unicorn colt minion. However, there really wasn't anything fun about it so I doubt I'll go back.

Btw I cannot stand how sections are blocked and you now have to use portals to get to certain places - and then flying is disabled.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

1.39% chance you'll get one out of 72 people. 7.69% it'll be for your main. Unknown % it will have good side stats.

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Portal doesn't appear every run. Seen only twice in 15 runs. And there's a chance to fail event. So actual percentage is much lower.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

As will the Alexander, Augmented Shire and Lux weapons. Hence my point. The chances of you getting these i280 weapons is stupidly rare, but SE needed something to entice people to actually do the new Diadem. What better way than something they know will "piss off" a group of people that don't stop and consider things. You know, how Wondrous Tails added in HQ gear with 5 slots- if you're ever lucky enough to get 3 lines.

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This... doesn't necessarily incentivise raiders though. Plenty have unsubbed completely because it ruined their speed killing challenges and the casual side remains frustrated their relic isn't BiS after only nine days. Couple it all with the fact FFlog had to freeze the previous tier to avoid one grouping dominating due to these weapons and this may well backfire on the devs.

[QUOTE=LunarEmerald;4066276]Not that hard but you have be ultra lucky to get a weapon.

Only one person in the entire 72 man gets one if you manage to clear a special fight that has a chance of occurring once per session. The weapon you get is random too.

So my chance is 1 in 72??? I like the odds of that! Much better than 1 in thousands or ten thousands even million of winning the jackpot. See the point? It isn't hard to get one lol rip Scripture weapon 270 which isn't even put in Dun Scaith yet? Don't even bother SE!

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Originally Posted by MsKirsten

So my chance is 1 in 72??? I like the odds of that! Much better than 1 in thousands or ten thousands even million of winning the jackpot. See the point? It isn't hard to get one lol rip Scripture weapon 270 which isn't even put in Dun Scaith yet? Don't even bother SE!

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It's 102 days until the expansion is released. Assuming exactly one weapon drops for 72 people and assuming you manage to successfully complete the emergency mission once per day every day and don't care which weapon drops (even if it's for a job that isn't 60 yet), then your chance of obtaining at least one weapon before Stormblood is

1 - (1 - (1/72))^102
= 1 - (1 - 0.0138888889)^102
= 1 - 0.9861111111^102
= 1 - 0.2401247539
= 0.7598752461
= 76%

where 102 is the number of successful kills and 1/72 is the drop chance. 1/(72 x 13) = 1/936 would be the drop chance for a specific weapon.

For example, if you run Diadem with 3 friends each day until you beat the emergency mission (which could take multiple runs) then statistically one of you wouldn't get any weapon and 3 of you would get some weapon before Stormblood. The chance of obtaining a specific weapon is much lower (substitute 1/72 with 1/936 in the formula) and would require several hundreds of kills for a similar chance, meaning more than one kill per day every day. If you skip days and only complete the emergency mission every other day (substitute 102 with 51 in the formula), for example, then your total chance of getting at least one weapon of any kind before Stormblood is 51%. If you like these odds I wish you good luck with your farm. ^^

Personally I'm going to stick with doing my relics because I don't like it when there's a chance that my work is wasted. I've only seen the emergency mission 2 or 3 times and haven't been able to complete it. It's going to take some time before the general population figures out what to do there.

Thanks for posting my weapon I feel famous now *_* howd you see it?

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

not mine.

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This one that is lol

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Originally Posted by Mature

SB is out in 3 months. Enjoy what you've got left from HW.

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You know this is not the last patch right? We've still got a casual-murdering expansion gateway battle ahead as well as hours of cutscenes and who knows what else

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Originally Posted by Zuiiq

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Still bis lol.

Thanks for posting BRD weapon. It's "only" +1 WD..... so i'll go on to finish relic and compared to 275 it's not THAT much of a difference.
Caster +3 WD is still hilarious tho

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Originally Posted by Zuiiq

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Why SE, why am I paying $17 a month for a game that gives players the very best weapons in the game based completely on pure dumb luck, instead of rewarding skill (raiders) or time (Anima grind)?

You might as well sell Deepest Gobdip on the MogStation to cover all of your player base.

Do any of you actually play your own game?

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Originally Posted by Bahd_Monkey

Why SE, why am I paying $17 a month for a game that gives players the very best weapons in the game based completely on pure dumb luck, instead of rewarding skill (raiders) or time (Anima grind)?

You might as well sell Deepest Gobdip on the MogStation to cover all of your player base.

Do any of you actually play your own game?

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Some games like to reward skill, like navigating a temple for treasure. Some reward effort, like a methodical search for buried treasure. Then you have FF XIV, which takes the best weapons, loads them into T-Shirt launchers and fires them into the crowd yelling "Who wants 280s?!?" >.<

Credit goes to Howard Moon o/

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