Rank 14 is the final rank for veteran rewards.

Seems I'll be saving some money if there's some content holes. Probably won't see as many people disappear until after 3.5 hits.

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Originally Posted by Ageofwar

Well there are people in other theads complaining (after just started ffxiv) they want the vet rewards like yesterday (Jeez can't they wait like the rest of us)

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I would like a couple of billions too, sadly I still have to work for that and even then, I doubt I'll ever come close. New people and their entitlement is disgusting, screw them and put the rewards back online. If they wanted them so bad add other billing options. Sub 3 years etc.

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

New people and their entitlement is disgusting, screw them and put the rewards back online.

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The entitlement in this post is real.

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Originally Posted by Lulu89

Good, so ppl that start this year can get everything too.. 1400 days is fine place to stop. If they dont some ppl many never get the good crap. Or what they want.

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But continuing further rewards wouldn't actually stop anyone from getting them. Everyone puts in the same amount of time to get the stuff.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

But continuing further rewards wouldn't actually stop anyone from getting them. Everyone puts in the same amount of time to get the stuff.

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Once you've reached the halfway point of the game's life (unknown), no new players will ever get any of the newer rewards.

Whether that's a problem or not will be viewed differently by different people.

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Originally Posted by Genaxx

Final reward is Squalls outfit.

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I hope so! I'd so glamour that to my dark knight!

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Once you've reached the halfway point of the game's life (unknown), no new players will ever get any of the newer rewards.

Whether that's a problem or not will be viewed differently by different people.

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That what happens when the game model setup up to rely on always getting new subs instead of retaining long term subs.

I'm happy to wait 1440 days for a reward.

However, I wouldn't say no to a system that prioritizes what you get. For example, I just hit one year. The 1440 reward is about a year's sub over the last reward. If I don't care about anything before that, I should be able to get the last one and then I'd have to start over to get any of the others. And the amount of time/tokens should be relative to the amount of time between reward tiers.

i think they should keep it going. If you're a new player, just keep subbing. You'll get em one day!

(i dont have all the veteran awards and I dont feel like I deserve to. I didnt put in as much time as others have)

I has heard that the system was changing for players post the 1440 mark. Something akin to the Gold Chocobo Feathers innthe recruit a friend campaign.

No word on that?

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

I wouldn't be surprised if it changes to a repeat log in campaign like FFXI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/cam...n/login33.html

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I don't think I'd mind that. They're actually pretty effective and very rewarding in XI. Although... it does sprout out the concern that people may feel the need to have multiple characters if it weren't limited. Something that is a no-brainer in XI that no one really complains about, but is something people would feel like they've been betrayed for here despite no additional cost lol. It's kind of like examining the frailty of youth today compared to the general mentality of the old. "It's unfair!" vs "suck it up, Nancy"

It'd make sense to go that route though, and for it to be almost a carbon copy in reward potential if they do. With Squadrons about to go live, it could just take the place of the Trust NPCs for point expense in the future. They're likely to allow for lore-related NPCs to be made available if that were to be a thing, like class/job quest ones.

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Originally Posted by Jeycht

In french the message say "* Le rang 14 est actuellement le plus élevé.".
Litterally "Rank 14 is actually the highest", so who know.
btw I don't care about it I never use them.

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To add to that matter in the german translation it says "Veteranen-Belohnungsrang 14 ist aktuell der höchste Rang." which translates to "Rank 14 is the latest rank for veteran rewards."
I highly doubt they will stop adding veteran rewards for good, this is most likely a case of poor wording.

I'd rather them just add these to mog station, it's essentially the same thing but cheaper. The outfits, at least.

Really? No one else is going to say it?

They're ending it at rank 14 and 1400 days because this is Final Fantasy 14.

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Originally Posted by cyborgmermaid

Really? No one else is going to say it?

They're ending it at rank 14 and 1400 days because this is Final Fantasy 14.

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The truth is revealed.

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Originally Posted by cyborgmermaid

Really? No one else is going to say it?

They're ending it at rank 14 and 1400 days because this is Final Fantasy 14.

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I said this a while back. lol

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Originally Posted by Kerii

I said this a while back. lol

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Woops. Must've missed your post :X

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Originally Posted by cyborgmermaid

Woops. Must've missed your post :X

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To be fair, it wasn't specifically in this thread. It was back on page three of the the other thread about the same topic. No worries though. xD

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Originally Posted by Kerii

I don't have the specific information... But, logically the OP isn't telling the whole truth. We are getting "one" more vet reward (Rank 14... funny that) and then they'll cease making them in favor of adding some other type of item (likely cash shop) to the game. Honestly, this is fine. 1,440 days is literally four years of of subscription time. I can't imagine anyone who joins "now" will care enough to stay subscribed longer than that.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Once you've reached the halfway point of the game's life (unknown), no new players will ever get any of the newer rewards.

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That's kind of the disturbing part. SE is indicating the game's already half-way to shutting down the servers for good. XI ran for 14 years before they started excluding some of the platforms (and I'm pretty sure it's still going for PC). But they don't plan on keeping this game around another four years?

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

That's kind of the disturbing part. SE is indicating the game's already half-way to shutting down the servers for good. XI ran for 14 years before they started excluding some of the platforms (and I'm pretty sure it's still going for PC). But they don't plan on keeping this game around another four years?

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This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

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Youre absolutely right, I mean who cares that people have been subbing since launch, the new players deserve all those items for a small fee in comparison to the time it took to get it. Seems fair to me, and the message is loud and clear

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

The entitlement in this post is real.

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But justified.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless?l

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If not being able to get those VANITY items right away, discourage you from playing the game, then good riddance. You were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

Youre absolutely right, I mean who cares that people have been subbing since launch, the new players deserve all those items for a small fee in comparison to the time it took to get it. Seems fair to me, and the message is loud and clear

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If they suddenly add all of the veteran rewards they already gave out to the cash shop, yeah that might be annoying. Why would I care? I've got them all already. lol How petty are you though?

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Originally Posted by Kerii

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

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if they are worthless then why having to sub for 4 years to get them discourage you?

I'm still about a year or more away from the 14th reward, doesnt really bother me.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

If they suddenly add all of the veteran rewards they already gave out to the cash shop, yeah that might be annoying. Why would I care? I've got them all already. lol How petty are you though?

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Ill have them all already too, guess equally as petty? Of course my translation of "veteran reward" is probably very different from yours.

I don't maintain my sub because of the rewards. I play this game because I love it. The rewards are something that come and personally I think it is/was a nice feature to get some recognition and thank you for my playing the game continually. What they have planned be it a new program or possible continuation of this one in some way remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless?

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Of course not. If I like a game enough to care about such things, then I'll be subscribing a lot longer than that regardless. Anyone who doesn't plan on sticking around doesn't really have much use for vanity items anyway.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

A new player doesn't have this incentive to stay subbed.

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A new player has more incentive from them than a long-term player does, since the early rewards come at a faster rate than the later ones.

(p.s. It's three posts down. Sorry for replying to a later post in an earlier one, but I hit my forum limit for the day. Same goes for the following ones)

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

You're going to get the early rewards with normal play. The later rewards are the ones you have to stay subbed for and the ones that new players won't be getting.

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I guess that's the point where viewpoints diverge. I see 4-year rewards (or 5 year or 6 year ...) as coming with normal play, since I wouldn't quit a game any earlier than that unless I just didn't like the game in general (which is what would make the rewards pointless).

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

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And all can. Whether SE adds more vet rewards or not, the ones already here aren't going away. Everyone can get them.

Why don't they just replace veteran rewards with daily login rewards. This game is just a few features away in mogstation to qualify as free to play anyways.

Bummer. I really liked getting those costumes every half a year. Those Zidane boots really put my ensemble together.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

If not being able to get those VANITY items right away, discourage you from playing the game, then good riddance. You were playing the game for the wrong reasons.

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I think you misunderstand being discouraged. A lot of people who love their veteran rewards say that they just stay subbed to stay current with them, and that if they're removed, they're just going to stop doing that.

A new player doesn't have this incentive to stay subbed. It will take me over three years of subscription to get the final reward, and I've already been playing for a while. The final veteran reward may as well not exist to me. In other words, I see the veteran reward and think "oh well, it's nice, but I'll never have it." That's discouragement.


Personally, I think it would be better for them to have something that new players can look forward to, not a pipe dream.

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Originally Posted by thunderbreak

Why don't they just replace veteran rewards with daily login rewards. This game is just a few features away in mogstation to qualify as free to play anyways.

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like those b2p or f2p games?

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

Anyone who doesn't plan on sticking around doesn't really have much use for vanity items anyway.

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And certainly doesn't deserve any item labelled as veteran reward.

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Originally Posted by Kerii

This has nothing to do with the game dying. This is about simple logic. Are you seriously telling me if you started playing the game today you wouldn't be discouraged to learn that you have to pay for four years of subscription time to get some vanity items that are all basically worthless? It would be better for the developers to put the items that would have potentially been in the veteran reward program into the cash shop where they could make extra money, promotional events, or even just as in game rewards since people keep screaming for those.

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Or they could just give everyone who subscribes three months all the current vet awards and start a fresh veteran reward counter.

Sub 3 months get 1-1440 day rewards, new items start getting added every 90 days like a Veteran reward II. Locking things behind the cash shop makes some players think a sub only mmo is double dipping. Would work like a ilvl sub lol.

Technically, that wording is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily mean that there will never be any future veteran rewards, it just means that 14 is the final rank right now

*is very wary about anything that isn't necessarily set in stone ever since the level 75 cap raise in FFXI*

In fairness though, it is somewhat poetic that FFXIV would only go up to 14 ranks.

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Originally Posted by Niwashi

A new player has more incentive from them than a long-term player does, since the early rewards come at a faster rate than the later ones.

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You're going to get the early rewards with normal play. The later rewards are the ones you have to stay subbed for and the ones that new players won't be getting.

Sub once in a while and the early rewards will come anyway.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Technically, that wording is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily mean that there will never be any future veteran rewards, it just means that 14 is the final rank right now

*is very wary about anything that isn't necessarily set in stone ever since the level 75 cap raise in FFXI*

In fairness though, it is somewhat poetic that FFXIV would only go up to 14 ranks.

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From the patch notes: "* Rank 14 is the final rank for veteran rewards." That's pretty specific. However, I think you have a good point. They could literally do anything later on.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Or they could just give everyone who subscribes three months all the current vet awards and start a fresh veteran reward counter.

Sub 3 months get 1-1440 day rewards, new items start getting added like a Veteran reward II

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Anything that would be done now and/or in the future that would invalidate all the time/money spent to get the 30-1440 rewards, would be a bucket of spit to everyone who has been subbed since the beginning you know, actual Veterans. Let the current 30-1440 rewards be unreachable for newer players and, as you said, add a new type of veteran rewards working on the side that would just be like the 30-1440 rewards for them, and a continuation for us. They could even be retroactive so everyone start on equal ground.


"Newer" players asking to get the veteran rewards without the same investment is as wrong as if i was asking to get the Legacy rewards. Even though i play since closed betas, i don't deserve them because i wasn't there during 1.0.

They weren't there during the beginning of 2.0 or didn't stay subbed every months since then? its only fair they dont get to earn all the rewards.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Why is that a problem for anyone?

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Because if they kept going, some would go without. It's funny how people whine about equal housing, but yet people in this thread whine about not getting glamours that only a small percentage of people will wear. Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

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Originally Posted by CUTS3R

Anything that would be done now and/or in the future that would invalidate all the time/money spent to get the 30-1440, would be a bucket of spit to everyone who has been subbed since the beginning you know.


"Newer" players asking for to get the veteran rewards without the same investment is as wrong as if i was asking to get the Legacy rewards. Even though i play since closed betas, i don't deserve them because i wasn't there during 1.0.

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There is a realization in SE that the current reward is not conducive to bringing new players in, hence the stopping. Omitting rewards and older rewards gives no carrot to draw fresh meat in.

Obviously the carrot did work or we wouldn't have a thread on this would we. The average player cares not to chase a carrot on a stick 4 years ahead or be unable to access something because they came to the ball late. See various threads on the dislike of unable to get x item in x seasonal events.

The definition of veteran means something different to me than I was here at x time. To me it is more like there are rookies in baseball, then there are players who keep playing numerous years. Once they leave the game they are no longer veterans but retired.

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Because if they kept going, some would go without. It's funny how people whine about equal housing, but yet people in this thread whine about not getting glamours that only a small percentage of people will wear. Who honestly programs an outfit into a game, and then tells you that you can't unlock it. It's ignorant logic. All players should get to be veterans.

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You clearly do not understand the concept of loyalty rewards. Nor aparently the value of virtual goods. Oh well, your loss.