Please just give us Viera!

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Originally Posted by Rysir

They dropped the ball with au ra really really really hard which is why viera getting added would make it even worse because it would be an even bigger crime than au ra.

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Despite your opinion they dropped the ball with Au Ra...there seems to be a lot of people happy with Au Ra since I see them everywhere in-game. Even this long after they added it and playing the content a lot I see Au Ra almost as often as Miqote. So I am not sure how many share your opinion that they screwed up by adding Au Ra...just my observation it seems like your opinion is minority.

Anyway mostly I just feel people are using SE's flawed logic as a point for their argument that it will never happen like saying "they'll never add it cause they said they don't want a race that is similar to Miqote" even though after this they went and added Au Ra. So SE obviously doesn't really follow their own reasoning.

If they aren't even following their own reasoning they might still add Viera anyway even if some people won't like it. I mean I personally don't like the Roe race, but I wouldn't ask for it to be removed just because I don't like it. That would be silly...so I don't agree with you that they dropped the ball with Au Ra at all. I see tons of people playing Au Ra characters; that seems like a success to me.

As much as I love the race, XIV will not do them any justice. SE is not gonna recreate feet armor just for them. Viera without heels is a fraud. I rather it be a completely new race then to see the Viera suffer with a very limiting game.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Despite your opinion they dropped the ball with Au Ra...there seems to be a lot of people happy with Au Ra since I see them everywhere in-game. Even this long after they added it and playing the content a lot I see Au Ra almost as often as Miqote. So I am not sure how many share your opinion that they screwed up by adding Au Ra...just my observation it seems like your opinion is minority.

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They dropped the ball exceedingly hard in terms of delivery since they hyped up the race very very seriously with the no skin showing outfit for yugiri and the "I hide my features because the Eorzean people will get triggered worse than tumblr" making us think its some truly different and feature rich race.

And then we get the Au ra which turns out to be hyur with horns, tail, special eyes and scale patches that follows the tired old giant males and tiny cute females religiously.

My reasons for being extremely unhappy with au ra are very sound. Id really like a new race to not follow the Au ra's footsteps which is why Im furiously against viera.

First People complain that they don't like Viera, thats fine.
Then they complain that they are like Miqo'tes but with bunny ears... that is wrong, go play FFXII and see the diference.
Then they complain that FFXIV wouldn't do Viera justice... okay... i am going to ask you to stop there...

First 5 races, no one complained and Lalafels and Miqo'tes dominated. Au Ra implemented, some people complained and after accepted, and now is popular because of Yugiri preview in the story. If SE does like they did with Yugiri, preview Viera's perfect into the story, it will be the same thing as Au Ra, complains at first but then its accepted and popular.
And for those that want Beast races... SE would have to make COMPLETE SETS of armor for them instead of just feet, so stop it... Not to mention SE already has half work done with Viera since they have designs for it, so if they decide to add, good, if not, fine.

But don't start with bullshit that adding Viera would ruin them!

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Originally Posted by Ashewalker

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Your argument for why SE won't do beast races can just as well be applied to Viera (albeit on a smaller scale). Removing characteristic features of the race in order to accommodate existing and future gear sets would indeed 'ruin' them in the eyes of people, because then they wouldn't truly be Viera but a poor man's version.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

As much as I love the race, XIV will not do them any justice. SE is not gonna recreate feet armor just for them. Viera without heels is a fraud. I rather it be a completely new race then to see the Viera suffer with a very limiting game.

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Also, just imagine how awful their ears will look in headgear. Clip worse than tails.

Anyway, to people saying "aren't Au Ra just Miqo'te with scales" or whatever... you're mostly just looking at the females (the males actually have unique options for their faces and look nothing like Miqo'te) and ignoring what Au Ra have over what Viera's will have taken away.

Au ra: Tails, horns, eye-loops and skin conditionscales.
Viera: Interesting feet (remade), interesting hands (remade) and rabbit ears. Feet and hands will be remade to fit gear, leaving them with their rabbit ears (purchasable with MGP), which will clip through head gear, like tails.

Viera would add nothing new to this game.

Note, I'm still not a fan of Au Ra's, but I see what, even if barely, new things they came with.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Also, just imagine how awful their ears will look in headgear. Clip worse than tails.

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It just seems like it would be too much of an undertaking to design the race to accommodate the vast number of Armor designs, head, body, hands, pants, feet, etc.

Well they probably could come up with a working model...but not one that would please the fans of the Viera race, they would surely complain about one thing or another...guaranteed.

I don't want another miqo'te style again. IT'S TIME FOR BANGAA!
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070630163625

At the very least... Could we PLEASE get their Fabulous Hair Styles!!! x.x

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Originally Posted by Byonka

At the very least... Could we PLEASE get their Fabulous Hair Styles!!! x.x

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If not Viera Race, that would be great!

im a viera fan, hell id settle for a bunny ears n no tail option on miqote n call it a day. Problem solved. They didn't put much work into how the ears poke thru hats n headgear anyhow. People keep saying Adding Viera would bring nothing new to the game, outside of a new currency grind for gear, name something truly new and unique they have added in recent months. Not much. Just more humdrum crap to grind over time to drag out subtime. might as well start throwing out treats to ppl. ppl been demanding more customization options. if they gave me bunny style ears that I could swap out on a miqote, id smile, enjoy my bullcrap viera wannabe n call it a day. Especially if it came in a expanded faces n hairstyles patch. I'd like to see a mountain of new customization n glamours get added before they add another lore equvilent, and humdrum dungeons to grind endlessly.

Edit: n before someone says MGP Bunny ears, no, not some tiara cloth lookin bs, I want bunny ears. Ears, not some cheap cloth n chinsy tiara, that cant go with glasses or headgear.

No thanks. Gives us more CC instead.

Somewhere, possibly on GameFAQs or Reddit, I made a suggestion where a third clan for Miqo'te could have them with longer ears (re-designed to look similar to rabbit ears, perhaps?) and a shorter tail. It's not a Viera, but it's something different to the other two clans of Miqo'te.

Sorry Birdy, I mentioned them before you could say in before~

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Somewhere, possibly on GameFAQs or Reddit, I made a suggestion where a third clan for Miqo'te could have them with longer ears (re-designed to look similar to rabbit ears, perhaps?) and a shorter tail. It's not a Viera, but it's something different to the other two clans of Miqo'te.

Sorry Birdy, I mentioned them before you could say in before~

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*slaps you with a trout because reasons* But yep, really for a viera wannabe or sub-clan of miqote to make viera fans slightly happy, all they gotta do is crop the tail off, and reangle the miqote ears n extend them. Half the head gear looks like crap on miqote as is. so having goofy viera ears poking thru head gear wont be anything new. But maybe im a rare sorta viera fan that's willing to have none vera feet, and just use claws of the beast to have my viera hands n take wat little concession they gave n be happy XD

This argument that they would be a copy of the Miqos is in my opinion bull-poop. Because the Miqo'tes have no uniqueness to them, they are Hyurs with cat ears and a tail, there is no other difference. They do not look different and they barely stand out in comparison. If these races are already taking from XI and the races back then, then the Viera should easily be able to fit in. A lot of lore is already based on XII so the grounds that they don't fit in falls flat in my mind. Especially since the Mithras in XI actually looked like cats, they had fur they had different facial structures and the ears and tails and body type. They weren't a Hyur copypaste, in XIV they are one. While Au Ra is unique it's just more oriental in nature a version of the Miqos, Vieras could be put in and mesh well.

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Originally Posted by Eul

I don't want another miqo'te style again. IT'S TIME FOR BANGAA!
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20070630163625

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you win the thread

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Originally Posted by Rysir

They dropped the ball exceedingly hard in terms of delivery since they hyped up the race very very seriously

My reasons for being extremely unhappy with au ra are very sound. Id really like a new race to not follow the Au ra's footsteps which is why Im furiously against viera.

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It's just your opinion they dropped the ball. Doesn't make it fact. I am pretty sure SE doesn't see it that way since Au Ra became quite popular. So even tho you are extremely unhappy with Au Ra the majority of the community had the opposite opinion of you. All you have to do is look in-game to see this or notice the show your au ra thread is double or so the posts compared to the Lalafell, and Hyur threads of the same concept.

I'd actually prefer a wolf type race first instead of Viera. I also see many people want Viera though so I respect that what I personally want might be a minority. SE is going to go with whatever they want to add or what they think is more profitable. They also may evaluate the community to find out what the majority wants to see added. In the end there is always going to be a part of the community that is going to be unhappy no matter what they choose to add to their game.

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Originally Posted by Rysir

They dropped the ball exceedingly hard in terms of delivery since they hyped up the race very very seriously with the no skin showing outfit for yugiri and the "I hide my features because the Eorzean people will get triggered worse than tumblr" making us think its some truly different and feature rich race.

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I remember that too, all I got in the end was a flavor of the month hyur with a bit of a skin rash, there's stranger creatures in the world there's even beastmen in limsa buying things but a petite human with horns will cause a riot like in Frakenstien with towns people yelling monster? good grief. I don't even really know why I chose miqote either, hyur cosplaying a cat girl

I like Au Ra so much that I wouldn't play whatever the new races is so it really doesn't matter to me what they add.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I like Au Ra so much that I wouldn't play whatever the new races is so it really doesn't matter to me what they add.

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A lot of people said that before Au Ra was launched because they "like Miqo/Hyur/Roe/Lala/Elezen so much to ever change", and yet the mount of people that changed for good is really high. There's no way to actually know until it's in game, I think. Based on concept art I thought I would be an AuRa lightspeed but the final product didn't appeal to me that much. On the other hand there's people that hated the concepts and the leaked promo pictures but loved the characters in-game when benchmark was released.

Vieras are exclusive to Ivalice and I'd like to keep it that way, please.

Time, staff attention, resources - into expanding current races customisation >>>>>>>> time, staff, resources - into a new race and having to retro fit all existing gear to them

Maybe next expansion we go on the moon, and they introduce Viera as a reference to the Japanese tale "The Rabbit in the moon"!

...Yeah, no.

Stop asking for Viera.

I'd prefer they take the time for developing a new race and use it for something else. Want to know what I'd really like to see? Even though it will probably never happen, unique combat stances and combat animations for each race. That is one of my favorite things about XI and WoW and it serves to make each race actually feel visually different from each other.

Like some people pointed out, I'd like to see more customization to what we already have. I'd rather to see "Viera" being introduced as a third Miqo'te clan along with third clans for every existing race than adding a bunny race that will either be Elezen with ears, or Miqo'te re-skin. Unless SE works on a whole new race with features that slightly resembles Viera aka bunny ears, the body-type setup that's "typical" for a Viera to have is skimpy female Elezen with modified hands and foot.

Plus even if it's a human variation race (like every race in the game) I'd rather to see something new and exclusive to XIV instead of way more references and tributes to other titles of the fanchise.

But honestly:

- More hairstyles for both genders
- Unlocked hairstyles for every race
- Eyebrows for highlanders
- Muscle slider for every race AND gender
- More face option for every race
- Different ear shapes for Miqo'te to have (that might as well introduce "Viera" as a third clan)
- Au Ra horns not attached to the face
- Being able to choose your emote list on character creator with gender and racial emotes unlocked, so you can truly make a shy, or grumpy, or lively character as you please
- Combat sample of your voice as an option on the Voice tab


All of the above, at least to me, it's way more important and appealing than playing as a bunny or anything else, to be honest, because I know that if SE introduces a new race it'll have the same "limitations" our current ones have.

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Originally Posted by Miste

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Cute sells. I do think SE dropped the ball with Au Ra females. Not in popularity, but in originality. At the same time though, you can't blame them. Miqo'te and Hyur dominated FF before Au Ra. Now it's Miqo'te, Au Ra and Hyur because they're all a cutesy race. I would kill for females to look scarier and closer to demons, but I feel as if the race would have a severe popularity plummet if they looked anything like their concept art. I'm hoping the next race is unique and SE just doesn't care about the popularity contest for cuteness. Not saying that that's why Au Ra look the way they do, but it's why they're so popular.
Also...before people come in and say "MY Au Ra/Miqo/Hyur isn't cute", this is generalized. I know there are some unique ones out there, I swear.

Only if they have normal body proportion and are as tall as the hyurs. I don't want them 3 meters tall.

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Please just give us Viera!

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Not a fan. If Squeenix continued adding new races to this game, the character creation screen would look like:

http://i.imgur.com/PRIkosc.jpg

I'm not interested in most of the races we already do have, let alone any new ones they might bring out. So, no thanks.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

I personally wouldn't change to Viera but I would like the variety. Some concept they did made them look really unique to me, small but not as small as Lalafell and animal features but not a direct Lala/Miqo

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_23_33.jpg

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I would not mind Viera but not the kid version... idc how "unique" it is. I do not want child like characters wearing some of the outfits found in game.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100416201314

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Originally Posted by Alacran

I would not mind Viera but not the kid version... idc how "unique" it is. I do not want child like characters wearing some of the outfits found in game.

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Agreed. I think it would be ok, if they add Viera (only female) and this werewolf-race (only male) to the game.

To be honest, I would also appreciate to have more options for Au Ras. I love the demonish look on early concepts and I would like to have the options to add some more details like claws or stuff.

Still waiting for Viangaa. And the viangaa minion.

(If SE adds viera, I'm fine with it. Sheesh, so much rage over a proposition. This is the way; I got a good feeling!)

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the Viera. I'd much rather them putting more effort on giving current race new design features.

ALSO!!!!!!! if anything is to be added, can we talk about cross breeding race?

Exhibit A: Hilda
http://i.imgur.com/VNCc0wM.png

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Originally Posted by Deus_ex_Machina

ALSO!!!!!!! if anything is to be added, can we talk about cross breeding race?

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Like Chocobo-breeding? I want to breed my own Lalafell I like the idea of cross breeding races.

Well, we can communicate with each other. We can fight together. We can marry. There is only ONE thing I miss here... ... ... ... .

I m kidding. Lets get serious. I think it would be nice to have more options here. Hilda looks great and I would like to have the same option for Hyur and/or Elezen. But hey, Viera are great, too. Just add them with 4.0 and give us more costumization options with 5.0.

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Originally Posted by Chirol86

Cute sells. I do think SE dropped the ball with Au Ra females. Not in popularity, but in originality. At the same time though, you can't blame them. Miqo'te and Hyur dominated FF before Au Ra. Now it's Miqo'te, Au Ra and Hyur because they're all a cutesy race. I would kill for females to look scarier and closer to demons, but I feel as if the race would have a severe popularity plummet if they looked anything like their concept art. I'm hoping the next race is unique and SE just doesn't care about the popularity contest for cuteness. Not saying that that's why Au Ra look the way they do, but it's why they're so popular.
Also...before people come in and say "MY Au Ra/Miqo/Hyur isn't cute", this is generalized. I know there are some unique ones out there, I swear.

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Yeah, I am not so sure how original they are but they do have some features I didn't think about like the eyes having rings if you so choose. I was surprised at that. I don't play the races I play due to cuteness though so you shouldn't say that everyone only plays them for their cute factor. I play certain races because I just like them or I find they suit parts of my personality.

I originally played Miqote not because they are cute but because I like cats IRL and have worked at a animal shelter in the past. Au Ra came and I just found they suited my personality a bit better so I changed to that. The way I design my characters might be considered cute by others, but then again I design them after myself as close I can so it isn't me trying to make them look as cute as possible at all; it's just me being me.

For example the reason I don't have a Roe character is just because I can't relate to them, not because they are, by popular opinion, "not cute" etc. The cuteness factor has nothing to do with it really. I am just personally IRL not built like a Roe; not that tall or that...buxom lol xD.

I am sure I am not the only one who plays races because they personally relate to the race and not because of cuteness/sexiness or w/e. Even though I do like Viera and I wouldn't mind if they added it I do agree that they really should do something different first. They are a business though so who knows what they will decide. They want more players which means more subs which means more monies.

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Originally Posted by Deus_ex_Machina

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the Viera. I'd much rather them putting more effort on giving current race new design features.

ALSO!!!!!!! if anything is to be added, can we talk about cross breeding race?

Exhibit A: Hilda (snip of overly large pic of cute NPC)

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To be honest this seems more appealing than adding Viera to the game, it would expand the character customization and provide more unique looks to people characters.

And yes i also think Hilda looks cute as a button!...a dangerous cute button. :p

The game doesn't really need any new playable races. Not yet, anyway. What we really need is something that will benefit everybody - such as additional customisation options for each of the existing playable races. Adding a new playable race would involve an immense amount of work given that pretty much every piece of gear in the game would need to be adjusted to fit the new race.

i still think my idea wasnt to bad (page 3 this thread) but i agree we do need more race features

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Originally Posted by Deus_ex_Machina

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the Viera. I'd much rather them putting more effort on giving current race new design features.

ALSO!!!!!!! if anything is to be added, can we talk about cross breeding race?

Exhibit A: Hilda

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omg yess this so much this it would be an amazing feet in any mmo to do this im game

I would like both features: Viera and expanded customization features for each race and clan. If I had to choose which to take first, I would choose expanded custom features because let's face it, most look like clones of each other currently. If we could get that first, then we would have Viera with expanded options as well. Although, I would not be opposed if the Dev Team takes the reverse path of introducing Viera first, then expanded customization second.

I wouldn't be against adding Viera to the game, but I don't really see what the fuss is all about. I'd rather see something a bit different... Either going the somewhat traditional RPG route and having an Orc-like race, or an almost fully beast race... Like a werewolf kinda thing. :P