Please Disable Skills and Abilities in Towns

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

I do it when I'm waiting for my brothers or something. If someone wants me to stop they can ask. But I see no harm in it. I personally find it to be slightly entertaining. Especially when I use it to annoy said brothers.

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Errm... you realise you basically admitted that it's annoying as heck, right?

Let's be honest, skill spam is nothing but another form of in-game harassment. The people who do it know exactly why they're doing it, and know full well that no one likes it. so let's not try and make it look any more honourable than it actually is. You can argue that people can turn off in-game effects all you want, but there's actually a REASON why someone might actually want the effects on, especially if you're crafting and need to watch out for excellent/good conditions because the visual effect appears more quickly than the 'good' label does in the crafting box.

So, basically you're saying if they don't like it they don't have to put up with it, but they still need to diminish their enjoyment in some way. Why? Because some idiot randomly decided s/he was going to be a public nuisance? Fat chance.

Asking people to stop is like throwing water onto a grease fire in most cases. They WANT to get a rise out of people, they want you to be annoyed. Telling them to stop validates their reason for being a pain, so they'll continue to do so with more gusto, usually right next to where the hapless crafter is working just for added nuisance. For the rare situations that this actually works, it's great, but it's not very common and I almost always end up reporting them for harassment.

However, turning off skills in towns is not the way to go about it. There are plenty of good reasons to use skills in these areas which have been covered in this thread, and many more besides. What would be nice is a blacklist function which disables that person's effects and ONLY that person's effects. That would solve everyone's problems, and avoid heated arguments.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

You can argue that people can turn off in-game effects all you want, but there's actually a REASON why someone might actually want the effects on, especially if you're crafting and need to watch out for excellent/good conditions because the visual effect appears more quickly than the 'good' label does in the crafting box.

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Just let your own effects on while tuning off the effects from strangers?

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Originally Posted by Felis

Just let your own effects on while tuning off the effects from strangers?

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I see you're a master of cherry picking, rather than addressing the actual problem here. The point is it shouldn't be necessary. If I'm in a queue waiting to do a dungeon, it means going back in and re-enabling all of the effects every time. Why should the player be inconvenienced because of a single spammer?

Just make it a blacklist feature and we can all be happy.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

If I'm in a queue waiting to do a dungeon, it means going back in and re-enabling all of the effects every time.

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http://puu.sh/oxlle/927e7a41a2.png

Unless you're managing to get into dungeons with people that you aren't partied with, it shouldn't be an issue.

Can we please have some real threads? It's filled with useless requests and kitty issues instead on focusing on important issues of the game.If you are that annoyed , please go outside town or stay in the house, there is no reason to request this as long as you do have options to turn it off. Also some people do find it fun, it's not only about your person , it's a freackin mmorpg, you play with other people (get the hint?).This period with political correctness has to stop and no, no one cares about your personal issues. It's a an issue, get over it as many of us living and working in the real world besides playing ff are doing.
My 2 cents.

What? I like the light shows! Cheaper than real life fireworks. Makes for some amazing screenshots too!

As has already been pointed out, it's no biggie to set your own settings to block them if you don't care for them.

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Can we please have some real threads? It's filled with useless requests and kitty issues instead on focusing on important issues of the game.If you are that annoyed , please go outside town or stay in the house, there is no reason to request this as long as you do have options to turn it off. Also some people do find it fun, it's not only about your person , it's a freackin mmorpg, you play with other people (get the hint?).This period with political correctness has to stop and no, no one cares about your personal issues. It's a an issue, get over it as many of us living and working in the real world besides playing ff are doing.
My 2 cents.

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Careful. What may seem to be a useless request to you may be important to another player. Just as you wrote, you play with other players, and they all have different opinions.

You seem to be a person with a passion for FFXIV. Why don't you make a thread about one of the issues of the game you feel the developers should focus on?

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Originally Posted by cougarel

Can we please have some real threads? It's filled with useless requests and kitty issues instead on focusing on important issues of the game.If you are that annoyed , please go outside town or stay in the house, there is no reason to request this as long as you do have options to turn it off. Also some people do find it fun, it's not only about your person , it's a freackin mmorpg, you play with other people (get the hint?).This period with political correctness has to stop and no, no one cares about your personal issues. It's a an issue, get over it as many of us living and working in the real world besides playing ff are doing.
My 2 cents.

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square has my permission to skip all next patch dungeons if they make this happen.

Whenever I attend a wedding, sometimes I feel like I'm the only one not spamming AOEs in the couples faces as they try to say their vows.
I mean, they're not even hitched yet, sit down.

No thank you. I like to summon as soon as I log on, which is usually in towns. Saves me doing it later and possibly forgetting and running into a mob by mistake.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Unless you're managing to get into dungeons with people that you aren't partied with, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Uh huh, and what about alliance matches? Yup, it disables those effects for the other two teams as well. Look, you can pretend your magic bullet works flawlessly or we can admit there's a problem that has an easy fix.

BUT GUUUUYSSSS....

THE GAME SHOULD CATER TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

....is what I see when I read these threads.

Alternatively, instead of adding in lines of code that, in all likelihood, will introduce some ridiculous bug, you could....

Take the aforementioned advice and turn off spell effects.

Turn off your sound, in game or otherwise.

Move, either to a new town or new location in town.

Learn to consciously ignore it.

Swap to a job will a skill like that and join in the fun.

...no, wait, never mind. Those are all stupid. Much better to ignore reasonable solutions and force the game to change in order to suit a vocal few.

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Originally Posted by Syhrwyb

There is no point in letting people spam things like Holy, Unleash, or whatever other annoying abilities people have to use. Please take away our ability to spam in towns, thank you.

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This would erase like 60% of my playtime though =(

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Originally Posted by Quor

BUT GUUUUYSSSS....

THE GAME SHOULD CATER TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Pretty much. I mean, I don't like when people spam on me either while I'm doing difficult crafts. I find it extremely distracting. For that reason, I do difficult crafts at my FC house or my personal house. Before I had those, I'd just find a secluded area to craft in.

Me being easily distracted is no reason to completely take away skills in towns.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

I see you're a master of cherry picking, rather than addressing the actual problem here. The point is it shouldn't be necessary. If I'm in a queue waiting to do a dungeon, it means going back in and re-enabling all of the effects every time. Why should the player be inconvenienced because of a single spammer?

Just make it a blacklist feature and we can all be happy.

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Except that people that actually know what the function is for don't need to ever toggle it back on. When you're in a queue, you're pretty much only ever going into party content. Turning off combat effects for people not in your party only ever might hurt 24 man content. Otherwise, it's pointless having the option enabled.

Let's get rid of emotes too. People just keep spamming those, it is so annoying.

/ac berserk
/ac infuriate
/ac decimate

But, but... people love to spam their abilities to blind other players. ;-;

It would be nice to have a separate option in the settings to turn off the effects only in the towns tho.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Uh huh, and what about alliance matches? Yup, it disables those effects for the other two teams as well. Look, you can pretend your magic bullet works flawlessly or we can admit there's a problem that has an easy fix.

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How often do you actually pay attention to the other two party's AoEs and flashiness anyway? Like, why are you so occupied looking at someone else's pretty flashes than focusing on the duty? Seriously, the easy fix is to adjust those settings. I would like to summon my pets before going into duties. I would like to draw my cards and get an expanded Balance ahead of time. I would like to be in my tank stance ready for the duty. Fists of Fire, Wanderer's Minuet, Huton, Kiss of the Wasp, Aetherflow; so many abilities that would save time and convenience by being readily available in cities. Why should everyone else be inconvenienced just because you want to live your own princess life of no noise and lights?

All I see here is: "I'm too lazy to change one small setting so SE should change a function in the game to cater to me"

If other people's actions bother you.........go hang out somewhere by yourself? There. Now you can have your peace and quiet and others can be spam happy with their abilities and have their fun.

Oh how I feel that there will be an incoming, "But I like hanging out by this particular spot and I don't wanna go somewhere where people can't see how incredibly awesome I am."

Sometimes, with some people, you can never win.

Btw, this thread has far too many posts, imo.

/threadclosed? {Yes, please.}

Turn down visual effects for people outside of your party

and turn off sounds for other players

Wow, suddenly you no longer have a problem. We often have the tools to fix things that bother us ourselves, but want our ways enforced over other people.

I'm legitimately very curious about the pro-annoyance crowd. If the tables were turned, and the game was not designed to let you spam abilities/spells in cities, would you be complaining about the inability to annoy people in them? What would the argument there be? Generally, the defense here supporting it, would work in the opposite situation that's why... but I'm not seeing much of a logical one on that besides something akin to "we can do it, so don't change it".

Side note: I don't mind one way or another on the sides here, since I use the filters. Whatever d-bags I wish suffered daily psychotic annoyance upon IRL that I see in the towns are going to be the same ones I see elsewhere, so whatever lol.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I'm legitimately very curious about the pro-annoyance crowd. If the tables were turned, and the game was not designed to let you spam abilities/spells in cities, would you be complaining about the inability to annoy people in them? What would the argument there be? Generally, the defense here supporting it, would work in the opposite situation that's why... but I'm not seeing much of a logical one on that besides something akin to "we can do it, so don't change it".

Side note: I don't mind one way or another on the sides here, since I use the filters. Whatever d-bags I wish suffered daily psychotic annoyance upon IRL that I see in the towns are going to be the same ones I see elsewhere, so whatever lol.

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Because it's extremely unnecessary to add in some more code to prevent people from using spells and abilities in specific areas when the option to turn them off yourself already exists. Any programmer would know that when you add or change something in the code, you more than likely broke a dozen other things, and there is absolutely no need to do that.

Just find a quiet corner to AFK.

If it wasn't for being able to spam spells in towns, I'd never have learned how to Unleash or Salted Earth properly. :(

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Just find a quiet corner to AFK.

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This! 1,000,000 times, this!!

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Originally Posted by Averax

Because it's extremely unnecessary to add in some more code to prevent people from using spells and abilities in specific areas when the option to turn them off yourself already exists. Any programmer would know that when you add or change something in the code, you more than likely broke a dozen other things, and there is absolutely no need to do that.

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Yeah, but that's not what I was asking. Your argument there is sound, but it really doesn't seem to be the case for an overwhelming number of people on this thread lol.

You can turn off sound effects for other players. I did this and never looked back since there's never a time I need to hear an audio cue from someone else's abilities. Now people can have an army of magitek spamming their cannons for all I care and I can sit in peaceful quiet serenity and go about my day.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

Yeah, but that's not what I was asking. Your argument there is sound, but it really doesn't seem to be the case for an overwhelming number of people on this thread lol.

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That's because your proposed question is a bunch of false equivalency BS. You're asking a hypothetical for the sake of a hypothetical. Most of us who are saying it's not a big deal (or really, a deal at all) are of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mindset. That goes both ways.

Also, as a general rule, players of games such as this one tend towards freedom of action, rather than restriction. Hence, adding more restrictions = bad, especially if there's ways to deal with it in-game that don't force a host of potentially negative changes to the internal code of the game. There are already legitimate in-game means of dealing with any annoyance caused by using skills in towns, up to and including reporting the offender if need be. Coming to the forums to complain about something that can be dealt with, in-game, with readily accessible tools just smacks of entitlement. The game should not, and will not, be molded around special snowflakes who refuse to use the (completely effective) options they already have.

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Originally Posted by Quor

That's because your proposed question is a bunch of false equivalency BS. You're asking a hypothetical for the sake of a hypothetical. Most of us who are saying it's not a big deal (or really, a deal at all) are of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mindset. That goes both ways.

Also, as a general rule, players of games such as this one tend towards freedom of action, rather than restriction. Hence, adding more restrictions = bad, especially if there's ways to deal with it in-game that don't force a host of potentially negative changes to the internal code of the game. There are already legitimate in-game means of dealing with any annoyance caused by using skills in towns, up to and including reporting the offender if need be. Coming to the forums to complain about something that can be dealt with, in-game, with readily accessible tools just smacks of entitlement. The game should not, and will not, be molded around special snowflakes who refuse to use the (completely effective) options they already have.

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Well would you look at that. A far greater explanation of your stance. Looks like my question did a lot more than you think. You managed to provide a far greater and civil answer than your previous. One that excels at providing more insight on the heart of defensive matter. A bit snarky still, but better than (again) the previous.

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Originally Posted by Quor

BUT GUUUUYSSSS....

THE GAME SHOULD CATER TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

....is what I see when I read these threads.

Alternatively, instead of adding in lines of code that, in all likelihood, will introduce some ridiculous bug, you could....

Take the aforementioned advice and turn off spell effects.

Turn off your sound, in game or otherwise.

Move, either to a new town or new location in town.

Learn to consciously ignore it.

Swap to a job will a skill like that and join in the fun.

...no, wait, never mind. Those are all stupid. Much better to ignore reasonable solutions and force the game to change in order to suit a vocal few.

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Interesting, ain't it?

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

http://puu.sh/oxlle/927e7a41a2.png

Unless you're managing to get into dungeons with people that you aren't partied with, it shouldn't be an issue.

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Thread should have ended here.

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Originally Posted by pushin_tin

Thread should have ended here.

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I think it should also be added that we can macro this so that we have a quick On/Off function for it, since the response to that reply was the alliance limitation thing. The hassle is probably the wall there.

/battleeffect [subcommand] [setting]

Subcommand - self / party / other
Setting - all / simple / off

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../text_command/

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I think it should also be added that we can macro this so that we have a quick On/Off function for it, since the response to that reply was the alliance limitation thing. The hassle is probably the wall there.

/battleeffect [subcommand] [setting]

Subcommand - self / party / other
Setting - all / simple / off

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../text_command/

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I had to make this macro for hunts when I was on the PS4, it was the only way I could even function during the zerg. I made one to turn effects on and one to turn them off. Someone overly annoying and spammy in town? No problem.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

Well would you look at that. A far greater explanation of your stance. Looks like my question did a lot more than you think. You managed to provide a far greater and civil answer than your previous. One that excels at providing more insight on the heart of defensive matter. A bit snarky still, but better than (again) the previous.



Interesting, ain't it?

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I find it far more interesting that your question had not already been answered to your satisfaction after 7 pages of exposition. I know I'm good at explaining things, but I'm not 60+-posts-of-explanation good.

Which makes me think, perhaps, just maybe, you're intentions weren't exactly....pure. So to speak. Playing the devil's advocate is one thing, but intentional obtuseness is something else entirely.

As for my so-called "snark," the only way to effectively deal with special snowflakes who believe the world should be shaped so as to cater to their desires is with mockery and ridicule. The mature, adult approach to a situation such as this is not "change The Thing so it suits me" but rather "what, if anything, can I do in game to mitigate or remove this problem I'm having?"

If no vehicle of satisfaction exists, then by all means, advocating on behalf of adding such a measure is worthwhile (e.g. back in alpha, before they added GLD as an option to help facilitate testing in-game. A mild oversight that nonetheless was brought to the fore by bringing it to the forums). But when such measures of satisfaction already exist but are intentionally ignored because JUST...COME ON GUYS, then clearly we're dealing with....let's be diplomatic and call them "emotionally immature" individuals.

Regardless, I'm happy to have helped with some enlightenment here. Had I known it would be needed, I would have obliged earlier, but I abhor the idea of posting redundancy on a forum if it can be at all avoided.

Isn't sprint a skill/ability? :P