Yes, those are for people interested of that stuff, me included. However you were blaming people be too lazy to gear up with their freebie IVs. For people with interest to gear up properly (but no interest to the stoey fluff) the beast tribes offered no benefit for that purpose before, so blaming them of not having them leveled up is too harsh. Unless you want to blame people of being too lazy to go throu all story content but that whole different pony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
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03-03-2016, 04:21 PMSida
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03-03-2016, 05:21 PMRyuSaarva
this game has a thing called spiritbonding, sounds like you are just lazy and don't wanna upgrade your character.
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03-03-2016, 05:26 PMSlappahSpiritbonding is literally the least efficient way of getting materia at this point in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuSaarva
Remember back in 2.x you'd see Spiritbonding parties all the time?
Yeah, now you never see em because why spiritbond when you can...
Do ARR dailies
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03-03-2016, 05:43 PMCiri_Wolf
I bet tank nerfs slow down DF runs more than 3 damage will.
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03-03-2016, 07:56 PMAldoraIt’s not that it’s “a thing” in that sense, but for some (including me) buying Tier 4 / 5 materia from the Market Boards is not an option for gear which might get replaced within a week or 2. In this case i’m referring to Midas gear (iLvl220) being replaced with Lore gear (iLvl230).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
I simply don’t have that kind of money.
So, in order to save money, i’m collecting as much of the Tier 4 materia as i can through the Beastmen quests. However, i will also need to get Grade 4 Carbonized Matter in order to be able to meld them in the first place. Since the Grade 4 Carbonized Matter can only be found in unspoiled nodes in Mor Dhona, i will have to make time to farm those (which i can only do during the weekends) or buy them on the Market Boards.
By the time i can get my hands on the iLvl240 gear, i can start considering adding Tier 5 materia into my gear and by that time i should have some Tier 5 Materia stocked up (for instance by using the Mhachi Matter you can get in the Void Ark). -
03-03-2016, 08:23 PMUltear_MilkovichOk so also no reason to use food because the gain is not material, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffya
Same with potions.
Same with character's stats , 35/1160 is only 3% who cares?
And then... why did we wipe at 1%, again?
Im going to take every little bit of stats. As a tank having more Hp, more parry, more self heals , more damage not only helps me. It also helps the group. It is never enough. Especially now that materias are free. -
03-03-2016, 08:32 PMCiri_Wolf
I hope every tank is WAR and every dps is BLM. Don't want anyone purposely lowering their effectiveness by being something troll like BRD or PLD.
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03-03-2016, 08:46 PMColorfulYou mean to tell me people use potions and high end food in dungeons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich
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03-03-2016, 08:49 PMUltear_MilkovichThis game is not only about dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorful
Outside of faceroll content, foods potions or materias do help a lot.
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03-03-2016, 09:08 PMColorfulThe post you were quoting was referring specifically to dungeons though, there's no reason to state that materia is necessary for progression content along with potions and food unless you wanted to state the obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich
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03-03-2016, 09:22 PMRhaegarFFXIFenrirLet us also not devolve into the stage of telling people they have to raise their beast tribe reputation else "tough cookies." That being said, the quests are pretty easy and we get 12 a day now. T4 materia isn't the only benefit to having those quests unlocked. The beast tribe currency helps a lot if working on a relic. The same items you buy for relic can also be traded in Idyllshire for T5 catalysts from one of Rowena's girls (the one on the left iirc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sida
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03-03-2016, 09:48 PMkarateorangutang
It's finally worth something, so I just started them yesterday. So, I won't be melding a ton of IV's for quite some time, so just be patient with those of us that previously found the content lacking. It's worth something now, so more will start to do them and eventually destroy the IV's market. At that point they will become so cheap that people will just buy them instead. DF's aren't gonna magically get 5-10 minutes faster because of materia.
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03-03-2016, 09:53 PMKonicorgiMany possibilitiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
1. People didn't rank up all their tribe
2. People don't care about being optimized because they don't care about end game and just wanna have fun
3. People don't wanna lvl up their carft and pay people to melt materia on their gear.
4. People are tired of breaking their materias because no fucking luck at all #novus
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03-03-2016, 10:18 PMStouterTaruTank accessories - STR on VIT, or VIT on STR is a huge boostQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
Non-tank acccessories - VIT is a small boost to HP, but when you add 75 it's noticable
BLM - 18 Spell Speed IVs drop GCD by 0.06 seconds
BRD/SCH - 18 Crit Hit IV is +162 to crit hit rate
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03-03-2016, 10:21 PMNutz
A few things to consider:
-Most people can't meld their own materia. Many won't even bother someone else unless they think it's very important.
-Many people don't have access to lots of T4+ materia. No beast tribe rep, no retainer stock of materia, very little gil, or all.
-At this point in time there are very few items to meld. Most players probably have fewer than 3 pieces of gear that could be melded because of the time since release (0-2 tome items, 0-5 midas items depending on completion and choices).
-The gains are minimal for the hassle, but as time goes on more people will notice that the materia isn't hard to get/ expensive and crafters are happy to meld for them (possibly for a fee). Tanks can gain by far the most AP since they can meld STR to their right side and healers can meld accuracy all over the place so they can actually hit things. DPS (the majority of players I think) stand to gain the least. All the same I'm sure it'll catch on before long. -
03-03-2016, 10:27 PMKrenianKandos
Ugh. Zumi. Staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahp...
I'm making a killing with these on the MH. Why you ruinz eeeeeeet?! ; ; -
03-04-2016, 07:05 AMSpawniethis has to do with materias how exactly??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf
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03-04-2016, 07:37 AMDualgunnerAdmin pls kill this thread before more people learn of our secretsQuote:
Originally Posted by KrenianKandos
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03-04-2016, 10:05 AMSpawniepeople are still lazy to farm them anyways lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dualgunner
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03-04-2016, 02:07 PMEul
Is the materia from beast tribe appears randomly? I did Kobold (The only 2.0 max rank beast tribe I've did after Ixali) and I don't see any Heaven's Eye.
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03-04-2016, 03:26 PMRaineAmorieI was thinking the same, and I'm going to go with yes. I had Heaven's Eye materia in my list the last 2 days on Kobolds, but none today, seems like it's a random sample of any 2ndary stat materia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eul
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03-04-2016, 04:36 PMSida
It doesn't seem to be totally random. I have started to notice there is specific sets of five you get to choose from. I'm not sure if the particular set is tied to particular quest, but all of these predefined sets seem to include somewhat rounded up selection for all sorts of roles. That is, no set is purely caster centric, or purely melee centric, even if not each set includes the desirable one you'd want.
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03-04-2016, 09:29 PMVaer
It's probably based on which quests you get. The 3 quests you get are "randomly" chosen out of a pool of like 10 and the materia spread seems to be the same for each tribe.