NEW player how on earth are you suppose to press 1-21 keys?

I use a mouse with 12 side buttons for buffs/targeting etc and a Tartarus for movement and all other abilities. I only touch the keyboard in dungeons to type. Before I started using the Tartar I just got really good at clicking on abilities past number seven or so. It really is all about practice. I used to think clicking was easy and now I can't do it to save my life because I've played with a game pad for so long.

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Originally Posted by StinkyPuppies

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I'm just gonna... pretend this isn't a troll and answer what I do.

I have pretty small hands for a woman, so the farthest I ever reach is 1-5. I used to play another MMO that used all the keys around the WASD keys, so I just keybound some skills there. E is any ground AoE my classes have (just to make it easier for me to remember), and Q and X I gave to skills I valued as important and needing that quick reaction time.

Everything else I click on 'cause my most used skills are within reach... I'm also too poor to afford a gaming mouse, or I'd probably use that, lol.

Buy a gamepad and problem solved.

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Originally Posted by MaeIsMean

I use a G600 as well, but have all my movement mapped to that, and all my actions mapped to my left-hand (except for a few not-emergency rarely used abilities). I found it much much easier than trying to move with two hands and also mash buttons with both hands.

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Movement to your mouse? I mean, I can press mouse1 and mouse2 for forwards movement, but that's a default control.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Movement to your mouse? I mean, I can press mouse1 and mouse2 for forwards movement, but that's a default control.

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I have left-strafe, right-strafe, and backwards keybound to the G keys, and also auto-run and my mount hotkey. I can move any direction quickly with my thumb or M1+M2, and can simultaneously slide the mouse around to turn.

I usually just roll my face across the keyboard and hope for the best I don't even own a mouse. Tab is very well optimized in this game so it's all you really need, oh and a track pad because if you can't click it what's the point am I right? The more you can use your face the better and your nose can hit those pesky ctrl + alt keys at the same time.

Ok so I read enough.

ok so your a PC player.
My hubby doesn't use 1 to = his most used are at 1 to 4. The rest is all clicked with his mouse button. 2 seconds GCD is more then enough time to move the mouse and get ready to click move and beware of what's going on.

I use a g600 mouse for 12 quick keys and click on addiction actions. Mostly off GCD stuff.

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Originally Posted by Lethallin

I use 1-6, Control+1-6, and Shift+1-6.

The rest, cooldowns/rarely used abilities/stances I click.

It really doesn't take long to remember where everything is.

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Lol same, as healer, tank, and dps. But I didn't use those shift and alt. I don't feel comfortable to change the keybind from it's original and pressing additional like shift and alt. So I instead use mouse to click the skill.

I have ctrl, alt, and ctrl alt modifiers on my skills, and ctrl and alt mapped to the side buttons on my mouse. Pretty easy after that.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

I recommend a controller. Hold r2 and all your right side buttons become attacks (4) and hold L2 to make all your left side attacks (4). Hold r1 and flick any of the directional buttons or main buttons to switch to a new hotbar out of a total of 8. Thats 64 button slots.

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Correction, your left side is 8, and your right side is another 8. For 16 per bar, or 128 total. Since when you press L2 or R2, your controller appears to two button mappings (awkwardly placed on my Xbox One controller though), so when I hit the LT (aka L2) button, the far left 4 become bound to the controller's d-pad, and the mid-left 4 become bound to ABXY, similarly when I hit RT, the mid-right 4 become bound to the d-pad, and the far right 4 become bound to the ABXY. I don't use a controller though, I'm muscle memory trained thanks to WoW to use my Razer Naga Epic's thumbgrid and Razer Orbweaver/Deathstalker Ultimate for the rest.

As if not troll:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, cZ, cX, cV, cC, cB <click> <click>
s1, s2, s3, s4, sR, sF, sC, sV, sB, sT, sY, sG
c1, c2, c3, c4, aS, aD, aF, aG, aX, aC, aV, aB

Onscreen:
http://puu.sh/nc81A/b45b29be36.jpg

Actual keys:
http://puu.sh/nc842/12540151e1.jpg

The alt-S through -G bindings sound awkward at first, but they're actually really comfy... if I were to add another 4 abilities, they'd simply be alt-E through alt-Y. Here's hoping we don't get more bloat, though.

You dont even know the struggle till you play drg endgame. The button struggle for drg is real.

I mainly press 1-6 since I don't like pressing any key beyond 6.

1-6 = Hotbar 1
Ctrl+1-6 = Hotbar 2
Shift+1-6 = Hotbar 3

These should have most of the main skills covered.

Then I have Ctrl+Q, E, Tab, Z, X for other stuffs like LB, mount, stance shifting, sprint, etc.

For unimportant skills, I click them with the mouse.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

IKR?

In all seriousness, I use: 1-6, Q E R T F G V B, then combinations of various mouse buttons with those. My mouse has four possible buttons to use, one of which is bound to my Push To Talk in my VoIP and one of which I use on its own (scroll wheel). I assigned one to Shift and one to Ctrl in the software for the mouse itself, and I find that I have more than enough space.

Some stuff I still activate by clicking just to make sure I don't fat-finger it or because speed isn't all that important (mounts, etc).

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Side walk (Q/E) can actually be quite useful in bosses such as thordan ^^". Unless you changed these keybinds to another.

Gamepad user, I still wondering how the hell people can still moving plus doing skills with a keyboard + mouse... I have never been too good at it aside of writing, but, writing is totally different than starting to use the keys you need at perfect time and perfect moment and order... I mean, moving with keyboard is most annoying thing ever, how come you can move while even doing anything else?! In my gamepad I can easily move the character to all 360º just with a thumb. And camera with the another thumb... Rest of the fingers are free and ready to press whatever.

Probably a bait but...

Switch to a controller if you're not used on keyboard. It has its pros and cons just like keyboard.

I used to play on keyboard on every MMORPG until I switched to gamepad here in FFXIV.
Top players uses gamepad too, there's no real cap.
Keyboard has more buttons, Gamepad has insta-access to any skill etc...

Check some gameplays/kills videos using gamepad on internet!

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Originally Posted by l---------------l

Gamepad user, I still wondering how the hell people can still moving plus doing skills with a keyboard + mouse... I have never been too good at it aside of writing, but, writing is totally different than starting to use the keys you need at perfect time and perfect moment and order... I mean, moving with keyboard is most annoying thing ever, how come you can move while even doing anything else?! In my gamepad I can easily move the character to all 360º just with a thumb. And camera with the another thumb... Rest of the fingers are free and ready to press whatever.

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Wondering about this also. I find it really difficult to use movement keys and number keys above effectively without one screwing over the other. I can only reach E and Q if I rest my hand on WASD. The 2.5 second global cooldown allows a healthy young adult to mouseclick on all the rotational abilities with ease, oGCD included (test here for example), and moving your character is much easier when you don't have manage your rotation with the same hand. I get that clicker habits are not the popular way to go but... tbh I make just as many mistakes trying to hit the buttons of an MMO mouse than I do hitting the icons with my cursor. :rolleyes: If the GCD was very short I could see there being some issues with mouseclicking but as it is not really. No need to sweat about keybinds and buying fancy input devices imo, just click everything if it's more comfortable.

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Originally Posted by StinkyPuppies

Thanks all. I think I will invest in a good controller. Any reccomednations?
also are you suppose to use all your skills in boss fights etc? can someone help me for example machinist what do i spam and what do i not spam?

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I recommend the DS4, but i don't think the touchpad functions on anything except the PS4.

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Originally Posted by StinkyPuppies

Thanks all. I think I will invest in a good controller. Any reccomednations?
also are you suppose to use all your skills in boss fights etc? can someone help me for example machinist what do i spam and what do i not spam?

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It's not about spamming skills, it's more about knowing how each work. I suggest you look up a guide for machinist.

Welcome to skill bloat heaven.
Next Expansion all game pad users can commit Sudoku.

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Originally Posted by OmegaStrongtan

Welcome to skill bloat heaven.
Next Expansion all game pad users can commit Sudoku.

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Ughh...boring math grid puzzles, no thanks I'd rather commit seppuku.

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Originally Posted by Kitfox

Regular mouse, regular keyboard. Don't need anything extra.
Hotbar 1: 1234 ASDF ZXCV
Hotbar 2: Alt + 1234 ASDF ZXCV
Hotbar 3: Shift + 1234 ASDF ZXCV
Movement with QWE (can't move backwards but I always strafe anyway).
Facetarget on R, Focus target Shift+R.
Tilde or § or whatever on the left of 1 for Draw/Sheat Weapon, Alt+§ for Limit Break.
Whatever between Shift and Z (< for me) for mount and Alt+< for Sprint.
T for autorun.
Ctrl for Push-to-Talk in VOIP.

Just takes a bit of imagination.

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Or you can just click everything with the mouse! /wink

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I have a g600.
20 buttons. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

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Me too and I love it. :3