So we're getting a mentor system and the training hall

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

Who's to say they would want another mentor after the first one wasn't a mentor at all? Most players won't give it a second chance.

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Well, I see it like joining an FC. If your first one doesn't work out, I don't know any players at all who would just never join one again.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

And if there are no rewards nobody will bother because it will be completely pointless.

Catch 22.

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Even if there are no rewards, its something i would be interested in doing. Those who need the rewards to motivate them to do this should not be doing it in the first place. Some of us dont need shinies to be nice to other players.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

I am curious to see how it turns out. It'd be nice to help out lowbie-level FC mates without crushing their xp due to level differences.

And as for "that's what DF is for" naw, DF is for belittling each other and showing off just how gimongous your e-peen is.

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probably...although Id ont agree at all..Mentors can easely be set in the same category...to show off that they know everything and the rest is just dirt under their feet....you know the superiority complex

Nope this Mentoring is not a good idea whatsoever, this of course being my own interpreation of it.. Not to mention powerlevelling.at least to a certain level.. how is that going to help newby is beyond me

Since we don't have any real details on it, why just not try to see the positive side of it.
It's a good initiative from SE, and I'm totally up for it. I like to help (new) players, but not all of them want help.
This would be a great way to bring the ones that want to get help and those that want to help.
The best thing, to be sure for no abuse, is that there is no reward.

I actually hope this is server based tho, because then you can stay in touch with that person easily. In my FC I've got a couple of friends who want to sign for it and we thought of setting an LS with those players then. We shall see, next live letter/patch can't come soon enough.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Parser everywhere and mechanics- and ilvl-customizable training hall / dummy, please.

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They have mentioned there will be different levels of training dummies, and they will basically be your checks for both mechanics and DPS - and you will need to beat them. That in itself will be your parser - I beat this and this dummy.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I wonder how exactly the mentoring system will work other than pairing up expert players with newbies (isn't that what the DF sort of is now?) I'm willing to help others, but I'm afraid other people will only do it for the shinies and might belittle newbies who aren't getting things right.


Even though I'm far from a newbie, I'll check out the training hall myself just to see how it is. Might be interesting!

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They actually had this to say about “The Hall of the Novice” and “The Mentor System” features within the “Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVI Q&A Update Thread”:

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Patch 3.2 Content Part 5

The Hall of the Novice

Players will be able to train in two ways; training which doesn’t involve roles, and training for each role. Training which doesn’t involve roles will be available right before entering Sastasha which involved dodging area of effect attacks. After this players will be able to start training for each roles which has about seven tasks each. There is also something like a graduation, and players will be rewarded with gear when completing it. There will be a specific building for this. There will be explanation for terms such as “DoTs”.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Patch 3.2 Content Part 6

The Mentor System (Tentative)

This system will allow veteran players to be called “Mentors” for Disciple of War/Magic and also Disciples of the Land and Hand. Once players become a “Mentor” they will be able to use a system which will help new adventurers. This is basically a system where people can help out. Players will be able to use features such as a roulette called the “Mentor Roulette.”

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Apparently they want to introduce a Mentor system for all available Disciples, including the Disciples of the Land and Hand. Hmmm, that’s interesting.

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Originally Posted by Aldora

Apparently they want to introduce a Mentor system for all available Disciples, including the Disciples of the Land and Hand. Hmmm, that’s interesting.

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It also mentions "becoming" a Mentor, which means it's probably not something everyone and their granny can just queue up for. Maybe a commendation requirement?

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Originally Posted by ruskie

They have mentioned there will be different levels of training dummies, and they will basically be your checks for both mechanics and DPS - and you will need to beat them. That in itself will be your parser - I beat this and this dummy.

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I'm quite aware. I just find it still lacking for those who really want to see their output and its dynamics. Knowing that you managed to get through something is still quite different than knowing what you did right and what you did wrong. The majority of any information actually useful for self-improvement... lies with the parser. All the more so as the dummy is better able to replicate real circumstances for convenient but realistic parses.

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Originally Posted by EvinnaReed

Maybe you have to pass all challenges in the Training Hall first. It did say you had to do a special thing to be a Mentor so you probably have to prove your rotations/skills aren't dumpster fire levels of crap.

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You're forgetting this is the FFXIV team. They aren't allowed to make content where people who are bad could be excluded.

Finally! Somebody will give some real direction in this game. I just hit level 50 today. Thats 50 not 60; on my first character that I made back in February!

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

Even if there are no rewards, its something i would be interested in doing. Those who need the rewards to motivate them to do this should not be doing it in the first place. Some of us dont need shinies to be nice to other players.

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That's fair and rather valiant of you, but if it's not offering rewards, and you need that time to dedicate towards raiding, relic, etc., are you and everyone like you really going to keep that up if it's not serving a purpose? And you can just as easily be nice to people without being in a mentor roulette, it's not like being in any DF should preclude you from being nice.

I can't wait to mentor, been playing since 2011 and always liked helping people!

I've "mentored" people before so this could be interesting and helpful to some players.

I hope the training hall is for all levels, I'd like to use it heh.

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Originally Posted by DarkChild

Finally! Somebody will give some real direction in this game. I just hit level 50 today. Thats 50 not 60; on my first character that I made back in February!

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dont expect too much, they will just, for most of them, drag you along, and barely talk to you. As thi game is made, mentoring is not possible on a large scale. FCs do it already and that is where it is the most rewarding and trustworthy. Outside of it, I am not sure people will care that much, except some exception. Let say out of 100, 70 dont care and 30 care, otu of the people that say they want a Mentor,30 are ready to listen to those,70 will make it a point to prove they know more then the Mentor...we will see threads after threads on teh boards about this....

All I need is that "Sensei" or "Seifu" title and I'm all over this mentor shit. I leveled every class so I could help people.

maybe it'll be like a survey type deal the newbie grades their mentor and if they were assholes they get less roulette pops till the point were they just aren't allowed in and your most likely reward (tomes) will issue an amount based on how good you do greater the score higher the reward if you do a poor job mentoring someone you get less tomes or none i dunno