a new dps class that uses a katana as primary weapon

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

That actually has great potential for a dual class similar to arcanist. Call the class tachi or something then get Samurai as DPS and Shogun as Tank. Or are they going away from the whole class thing now? Since DRK/MCH/AST were just jobs and didn't have classes.

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Classes are tanaka-era, so no more classes, just jobs.

My guess? SAM will be DPS with mnk/drg. RDM melee/support along with NIN. MCH/BRD rng/support

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Originally Posted by Ceasaria

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This guy was so hot, until you hear him talk.

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

1) might want to say Great Katana since ninja already uses Katanas. 2) I'm really hoping they add a class that can dual like arcanist. Honestly I wouldn't care if they didn't add a new class and just made some of the existing classes more dual oriented in 4.0. Easy enough to do with warrior.

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Ninjas use Wakazashi, not katanas. And if the SAM were to use anything, I would like to see then use an Odachi.

In the beginning, SAM was planned to be a tank and DRK a DPS.
But they needed a tank for Heavensward, and since 1) they just released an eastern oriented job with Ninja and 2) Dark Knight felt better with the mood, Yoshi decided to make DRK the tank, and keep SAM as a conceivable future DPS.

As for Iroha as the SAM trainer, even if it's wishful thinking, I don't see any reason for her to stay in Eorzea apart from that. So, a bit of foreshadowing to 4.0, I hope ;)

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Originally Posted by Mendalas

pretty much already been announced that the dev team plans on implementing all of the standard FF jobs at some point. Samurai being the most popular its almost guaranteed to get added. But just so you know its probably going to be a tank as the current trend recommends.

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Then beastmaster or corsair is their chance to make it up to me cause of their crappy 3.0 brd (mch)

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Originally Posted by BHGlobbd

Ninjas use Wakazashi, not katanas. And if the SAM were to use anything, I would like to see then use an Odachi.

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I was going to make this comment myself before I saw this post. There is no such thing as a 'Great Katana', they just don't exist and if you really want a long Japanese sword a Nodachi (almost interchangeable with Odachi, but there's a slight difference in the meaning where Nodachi fits the concept better) would be what you are looking for.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

I was going to make this comment myself before I saw this post. There is no such thing as a 'Great Katana', they just don't exist and if you really want a long Japanese sword a Nodachi (almost interchangeable with Odachi, but there's a slight difference in the meaning where Nodachi fits the concept better) would be what you are looking for.

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Great Katanas were actually the weapons Samurai used in FFXI along with several others, Katanas were Ninja only.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Great Katanas were actually the weapons Samurai used in FFXI along with several others, Katanas were Ninja only.

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The term "Katana" already refers to a two-handed weapon. in FFXI, Ninjas used mostly Tantos

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

The term "Katana" already refers to a two-handed weapon. in FFXI, Ninjas used mostly Tantos

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I'm aware of the word actually means, but I'm arguing the reason behind the original poster. In FFXI the weapon class was Katana, not Tanto.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Great Katanas were actually the weapons Samurai used in FFXI along with several others, Katanas were Ninja only.

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I understand that this is how they were named in XI, however, the term 'Great Katana' is a misnomer brought about by the localization and the term actually doesn't even exist when talking about swords. The actual term used to describe the longer swords Samurai used in XI compared to Ninja would be Odachi. I'm not disputing what they were called in the game, but the actual correct sword nomenclature. And to be really technical about it, the swords Ninjas should have used in XI are called 'Ninjato' which means the Samurai were using the Katanas, as they should be.

And being honest... yes, I'm a collector so the bad nomenclature bothers me and I'd rather see it go forward properly than continue misrepresenting the proper names.

Don't worry, in this game, they'll be called "Samurai's Arms" like we have "Rogue's Arms" now.
So, everyone will be free of nicknaming them as they want :p

No idea why samurai have to be dps
We got no polearm tank, no magic tank, no blunt damage tank
We got no physical healer
So I really don't get the no sword dps thing
At current 24 dungeon
We have 1 tank:2 healer:5 dps
In game we have 3 tank: 3 healer : 7 dps
By some of the logic in this thread, seem healer is most needed
So there are neither no sword dps nor we have enough tank class is supportive

Yeah, I am fine with the Samurai being a DPS here instead of a tank, given the role balance being slightly out of whack due to the popularity of DRK and the rather disappointing start of the AST.
Those problems were already showing when the Void Ark queues were terrible for tanks.

If it has to be included into the next expansion, maybe 1-2 new DPS jobs will be fine along with one new gathering and crafting class perhaps.

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Originally Posted by NoahArks

Then beastmaster or corsair is their chance to make it up to me cause of their crappy 3.0 brd (mch)

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i would love to see BST :o

next job is going to be a mage.... since we only have 2 of those , 3 tank , 3 healer , 3 melee , 2 ranged , 2 mage

they introduced melee , tank , healer and ranged....next 1 is mage

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Originally Posted by Misutoraru

We got no physical healer

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Sorry, but I read this and the first thing that went through my head was, 'I'm going to punch you in the face until you feel better!' I'm not sure how a 'physical healer' would even work in this game and it would just be an utter nightmare in raids to have to be next to the target you want to heal when that can change so often... Unless you bastardize MCH and make a class that shoots you with potion darts or something.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Sorry, but I read this and the first thing that went through my head was, 'I'm going to punch you in the face until you feel better!' I'm not sure how a 'physical healer' would even work in this game and it would just be an utter nightmare in raids to have to be next to the target you want to heal when that can change so often... Unless you bastardize MCH and make a class that shoots you with potion darts or something.

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While not exactly a physical healer, something like the Mistweaver Monk from WoW would be cool. They weave heals with their hands using chi and not a staff, star glove or book. Otherwise I really don't see how they can keep making healer classes that are interesting unless they go into the shooting people = heals route (I'd prefer that didn't happen). Astrologian is a nice concept lorewise, can't speak for how it plays though.

Locking classes behind weapons was always a bad idea. Even more of a bad idea to not make each class role flexible.

Samurai is definitely the class that I am looking forward to the most. The elegant yet brutal style of swordsmanship expressed by Samurai is an aesthetic that I think suits my own character very well.

In the discussion between Samurai being Tanks or DPS I can see it going either way and functioning well. I can see a Tank Samurai charging into battle with a ferocious blinding slash that cuts through the opponent extracting enmity and turning them around to face away from the party. As a DPS I can also visualize a SAM with their blade sheathed and dishing out blinding quick draws to cut down the enemy while also applying bleeding debuffs.

I'm not sure which role the Samurai will have but it's honestly inconsequential to me as I'll master whatever is needed to be the best damn Samurai I can be :D

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Sorry, but I read this and the first thing that went through my head was, 'I'm going to punch you in the face until you feel better!' I'm not sure how a 'physical healer' would even work in this game and it would just be an utter nightmare in raids to have to be next to the target you want to heal when that can change so often... Unless you bastardize MCH and make a class that shoots you with potion darts or something.

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never play FFT?
monk have sort of physical healing skill
FFT got chemist

but i m just following the same logic with no sword DPS, no magic tank...etc
now you see tank/dps/healer for every weapon type we have is a bad idea

I'm fine with the Samurai being a dps if SE will give us:


A) Beastmaster tank
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B) Red Mage tank

(sorry, I was joking, don't kill me ç_ç)

Samurai dps, give red mage a rapier, new tank use maces/flails.