"Glamour is the End Game"...What do you feel when you hear that?

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

Ponies are the true end-game. If you don't have a Kirin, you're just a casual.

I don't have a Kirin BTW. ;)

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I'm casual and probably play way more than everyone here.

The statement is correct, Glamour> everything else

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Originally Posted by Alahra

I have spent more time running back and forth between the MB and my gear retainers, trying things on, dying stuff, accidentally buying the wrong prisms, and agonizing over which pair of stockings *really* matches that top, than I ever have in raid content (and I raided throughout ARR!). Sometimes it takes me hours to get a glamour right and my friends all laugh at me.

So yeah, when I hear that...I nod in agreement.

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Same. I try to do my glamours even down to the weapon. Sometimes that leads me into doing other content so I can get the particular weapon I want. I was still running a lot of the EX primals even after I had ponies so I could get weapons I missed.

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Originally Posted by Enthy

How do I feel when I hear "Glamour is the real End Game"? It makes me miss the 1.0/FFXI days when End Game was about gathering with your whole LS to take down Great Buffalo or do leves together. Really just being with your whole LS not having to say "sorry Bob party is full.. find your own static"

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I feel that even the glamour system is half-assed just like everything else in this game.

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Oh, and this too. Have all of my "likes."

I'm not obsessed with Glamour at all and still don't understand why I have Undyed Velveteens ,Toad Leathers ,Silver Ingot ,Walnut Lumbers and lv 1 Prisms in my Inventory all the time.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

Everything we work for is glamours lol. Gear gets replaced in the blink of an eye.

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You only blink every 6-7 months? Impressive. And also really bad for your eyes.

Gear is temporary; glamour is forever.

Chuckle because its true, I wish there was a statistic to see how many glamour prisms each player has bought and how much its cost in total, I have a feeling mine will be...high.

But yeah, when all is said and done, if you are playing the game, might as well work to look snazzy.

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Originally Posted by Cidel

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Oh, and this too. Have all of my "likes."

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That 'dorky teen' Cumberbatch, would so very.

It doesn't bother me one bit. The traditional organized group content gear up to run more organized group content treadmill is not something that appeals to me at all so the thought that there is something else as the be all and end all is positive.

Oh I thought "glamour is the endgame" was a joke, because FFXIV doesn't have much of an endgame. And glamour gear can cost a fortune! Where in all other games, end game gear was what cost a fortune.

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Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

Oh I thought "glamour is the endgame" was a joke, because FFXIV doesn\\'t have much of an endgame. And glamour gear can cost a fortune! Where in all other games, end game gear was what cost a fortune.

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I always took it that way to. I didn't think people were actually serious about it considering at least 25% of the community chooses to run naked anyway. Hell, I remember when this game didn't have any glamours.

Glamour is not the real endgame!!!!!!!!! Mounts are

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Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

Oh I thought "glamour is the endgame" was a joke, because FFXIV doesn't have much of an endgame. And glamour gear can cost a fortune! Where in all other games, end game gear was what cost a fortune.

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It was a joke, until Heavensward came out. Now its a reality cuz no1 cares about the raids anymore

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

It was a joke, until Heavensward came out. Now its a reality cuz no1 cares about the raids anymore

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Yeah, there is no reason to care about raids because of: lockouts, statics, short shelf life. I really always played MMO's for raiding. And this game is obviously not going to change its formula. I think my MMO days will soon be over and I may just switch to console games. I'll just get my socialization IRL.

Well, I did once refuse to queue for PVP until I'd glamoured a new piece of gear...

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Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

Oh I thought "glamour is the endgame" was a joke, because FFXIV doesn't have much of an endgame. And glamour gear can cost a fortune! Where in all other games, end game gear was what cost a fortune.

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It's really one of the rare games that takes glamour this seriously, most games once you get an item you have to deal with the look if you want to be effective. the only other mmo i have played that puts a serious tag on glamour is POS2 were you can completetly control how your character looks, (but a disturbing amount of loli) regardless of what you are actually using. and since these days games are all about looks it's no surprise that people use that tag of glamour is the real endgame.

Ever played FFXI? for years you were stuck with what look you had, character and gear. I love how this game is with items honestly, cause i'm quiet picky when it comes to how my character looks in games.

I'm not sure why people keep thinking it's a joke...I'm dead serious when I say it's endgame.

Seriously it's no less valid than all the raiding or PVP or whatever.

Also really half of players could easily get onto Eorzean What Not To Wear... do us all a favor and at the very least glamour a matching set, please for the love of the Twelve your raiding gear is awful looking and mismatched. Fix it.

I always say "Glamour is the TRUE endgame" as a way to specify the idea that "you can't fight crime if you don't look cute".

i.e. - Obtaining stylish gear and making your character look amazing is a big part of fun for a lot of players and leads to some amusing or enjoyable reactions. However it also requires a lot of time and gil to do, along with the idea that you weren't able to even start glamouring until you reached Level 50 anyways, and many of the best vanity items are only able to be made from items you get from the endgame. I never assumed it was a joke levied at the game's "lack of content", just that it was an entire part of the game that is set within the endgame alongside raiding and other stuff.

I totally agree! I love leveling up my jobs, but what satisfies me the most is glamouring them once I get to the highest ilvl ♥

Disregarding the obvious necro bump of the last poster, i need to know what this chest is called. I'm working on a hobo set:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/1b92f3f9...or11o1_400.jpg

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

Disregarding the obvious necro bump of the last poster, i need to know what this chest is called. I'm working on a hobo set:

https://40.media.tumblr.com/1b92f3f9...or11o1_400.jpg

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That is the male-exclusive Expeditioner's Coat.

http://xivdb.com/item/14830/Expeditioner's+Coat

For ladies, there is a female-exclusive Expeditioner's Tabard.

http://xivdb.com/item/14833/Expeditioner's+Tabard

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Originally Posted by HakuroDK

That is the male-exclusive Expeditioner's Coat.

http://xivdb.com/item/14830/Expeditioner's+Coat

For ladies, there is a female-exclusive Expeditioner's Tabard.

http://xivdb.com/item/14833/Expeditioner's+Tabard

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Oh no, the female version is completely the opposite. Way too flashy while the male version is shabby and dank (which i want) The search continues. Thanks anyway.

"Glamour is the True Endgame" ...What do you feel when you hear that?


I feel very confused. I like very few glamours in this game outside of a bunch of level 1 stuff. Seasonal event glamours, starter gear, alternate starter gear and a few crafted items. If glamour was my end game, I'd be long done with this game.

The argument that I've heard for why it is the true endgame is 'because it lasts', but I honestly change my glamour more frequently than my ilvl.

How do I feel? Nothing. Its up to a person themselves to decide what endgame is to them.

If they want to consider guildhests as endgame all the power to them.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

How do I feel? Nothing. Its up to a person themselves to decide what endgame is to them.

If they want to consider guildhests as endgame all the power to them.

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Guildhests were only the true endgame prior to Heavensward. Without adding new Guildhests in the expansions, Square really hurt the hardcore playerbase.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Guildhests were only the true endgame prior to Heavensward. Without adding new Guildhests in the expansions, Square really hurt the hardcore playerbase.

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I've had friends quit due to the lack of new guildhests, they really did hurt some of the hardcore playerbase with that blunder sadly.

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

"Glamour is the True Endgame" ...What do you feel when you hear that?


I feel very confused. I like very few glamours in this game outside of a bunch of level 1 stuff. Seasonal event glamours, starter gear, alternate starter gear and a few crafted items. If glamour was my end game, I'd be long done with this game.

The argument that I've heard for why it is the true endgame is 'because it lasts', but I honestly change my glamour more frequently than my ilvl.

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Though lots of glamour is Level 1, you can't actually glamour until level 50....

and there's no point if you're honestly going to wear level one gear into a dungeon. Don't do that.

Besides if you change often that just means you have tons of good ideas~

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Though lots of glamour is Level 1, you can't actually glamour until level 50....

and there's no point if you're honestly going to wear level one gear into a dungeon. Don't do that.

Besides if you change often that just means you have tons of good ideas~

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/huh?

I mean, I am level 60, but I am glamouring gear that is level 1 using Grade 1 prisms. I don't mean that I am wearing level 1 items lol. I change often, but mostly cycle through, mix and match and recolour. Things like:

Miqo'te Loincloth
Hempen Camise
Gryphonskin Breastguard
Swimsuit from that summer event last year (forget name)
Bridesmaid's tights
Other various swimsuit pieces

A few non-level 1 items I have used

Acolyte Skirt
Coliseum Loincloth
Coliseum Shawl
Bogatyr (sp?) Thighboots

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

"Glamour is the True Endgame" ...What do you feel when you hear that?


I feel very confused. I like very few glamours in this game outside of a bunch of level 1 stuff. Seasonal event glamours, starter gear, alternate starter gear and a few crafted items. If glamour was my end game, I'd be long done with this game.

The argument that I've heard for why it is the true endgame is 'because it lasts', but I honestly change my glamour more frequently than my ilvl.

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I know Right?

I think the argument about it lasting is that once you have the gear, it's yours to reuse however often you want, and while this is true, I rarely ever reuse old glamour sets personally. Once I find an image that works, that's usually my set for a long time.

And to be quite honest, for a game where a majority of people claim that glamour is the real endgame. I don't really care what peoples glamours are. Just as much as they don't care if I were to have a 245 Savage weapon. It goes both ways; and in the end, we all want to brag about the things we have.

Endgame is whatever you want it to be. There is no true endgame.

Everyone plays the game for a different reason and in that I feel that they will find their own definition of end game :o

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

And to be quite honest, for a game where a majority of people claim that glamour is the real endgame. I don't really care what peoples glamours are. Just as much as they don't care if I were to have a 245 Savage weapon. It goes both ways; and in the end, we all want to brag about the things we have.

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Haha so true. I often don't even notice what race people are, nevermind their glamour :\

I subbed in for a static yesterday (mostly FC members, but a few non), and the other SMN in the party was a Lalafell. I didn't notice until we had already played together for over 2 hours. :\

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Originally Posted by Kaurie

Haha so true. I often don't even notice what race people are, nevermind their glamour :\

I subbed in for a static yesterday (mostly FC members, but a few non), and the other SMN in the party was a Lalafell. I didn't notice until we had already played together for over 2 hours. :\

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Well, to be fair, it is easy to overlook a Lalafell...

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Originally Posted by Nav_Fae

What I picture when I hear people say that glamour is the true end game is someone going out of their way to get a bikini top so that they can later ERP with it inside their private chambers.

...maybe I've been on Balmung too long...

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Yep, I think maybe you have. :P

Serious point to be made, and I am not directing this at you (Nav_Fae) because I'm pretty well sure you're kidding and making point about Balmung...however;

Honestly, I cringe whenever I hear someone, seriously remarking on some glamour or other being for the purposes of ERP. Such assumptions are baseless and mired in the internal thoughts and bias of the person espousing them. I think it's so sad that so many people today when they see a bikini clad character immediately make assumptions about the character, and the player(s).

Sometimes (most often?) a bikini is just a bikini, no more than a decorative bra and panties you wear to the beach... or wherever else you want to. I mean would the same people pre-judging others for wearing a bikini top, or full bikini in-game, walk up to a bikini clad woman on the beach and accuse her of just wanting to ERP?

In an online game, is VERY important (if not the most important) to feel unique, feel different and that people recognize you. And its OK to want to be the protagonist or part of the team of main characters of the world even if there are other people there.


This is an MMO that don't have horizontal progress and skill trees, so its difficult for people to feel like a snowflake reaching the level cap

So, people have few choices to stick out of everyone else. One way are the parse people that need the urge to be the MOST powerful DPS, to be the best stance for enmity juggle, to have the best skill rotation, to be the first to finish new content and so on. Again, this is OK, is trying to beat a goal.

But those are ways not so easy to differentiate day by day. Glamours are a more visual customization, so, character hair, race, skin color and gear/job are the most easy to differentiate even when just standing in a crowded area waiting for a duty (or just waiting to brag your latest minion or mount)

So yeah, glamour is endgame, and one more accessible (basically everyone) instead of comparing your e-peen and brag about how you finished coil before nerfs.

Simple example, when someone says in chat/forum/etc that they finished a pre nerf dungeon... NOBODY CARES... if you post a glamour people will see you and if you are using a not so usual piece of gear, someone will ask you where you got it... (and its usually in outdated content or class restricted)


So basically, finishing content gives you gear to glamour so you can be recognized in an online game. There, glamours are true MMO endgame (until we have actual horizontal progression)

Makes Sense ;D

Anyone can clear any content if they smash their head against it for X amount of hours, but looking good while doing it? Priceless

Wanna know why glamour is the true end game? You either farm in the same dungeon or raid over and over until RNG blesses you or you bust your butt trying to gather all the hard to get/make materials so you can craft that pretty dress you wanted. That's more work than learning how to do savage or ex primals.

Fashion Fantasy XIV: A Realm Adorned.

Well

I'm one of those people-watchers; I "Examine" people all the time, whether I walk past them, if they're in my DF party...whenever
I look at people's gear and glamour combos all the time. Constantly.

If I'm standing near you I've probably looked at you. (also probably judging you hardcore)

My response is usually "I guess I've beaten the game then! /pose"

If glamour is a such an important part of end game, then I say the devs should really focus on developing better collection and inventory interface support.

when i hear that i think that this game doesn't have a very bright future.