Patch is up

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

You guys have terrible internet!!! I downloaded the patch in 5 minutes.

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Apparently the USA is the only country in the universe. I never knew I had to put up with horrible internet my whole life...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

It won't go up till scheduled time, they moved to this during patch 2.3 or 2.4 because people were getting on and completing weekly activities early in the morning.

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And this is a problem why?

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Originally Posted by Slappah

A close to 2 TERABYTE patch.

Now that would be absolutely insane.

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That's what happens when you drop ps3 support. BIG and better patches

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Originally Posted by the-kuponut

550 mins here ;_;
*cries*

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Originally Posted by Mastodom

0.05MB/S Here. 638 minutes.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

/soothe
I have bad internet too. lol
Gosh darn Canada.

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GUYS. LETS GO HAVE A PITY PARTY.

And I'm on Canadian net too, CG. Crappy Shaw. D:

i hope this patch is the best one yet!

0.30-0.50 mbps ugh... I dont even know if I should bother downloading it right now.

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Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth

0.30-0.50 mbps ugh... I dont even know if I should bother downloading it right now.

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I'm starting too think I shouldn't at all...lol it glitches itself after like 2-3 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

Would I be a horrible person if I said my patching took about 10 minutes total? XD

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Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

You guys have terrible internet!!! I downloaded the patch in 5 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Cylestea

got mine.... took about 3 mins to dl

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Originally Posted by Remus

I think your the one with terrible internet! Mine took 1 minute!

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Mine was so fast it didn't even download.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And this is a problem why?

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Unfair advantage to those with convenient sleep/work/etc schedules.

10 mins. Sweet. thanks for this post!

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Unfair advantage to those with convenient sleep/work/etc schedules.

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How can you get an unfair advantage in something that every one can do *once* per week?

Disclaimer: I don't think servers will come up early but the logic above is.. well.. not logical.

Why is it downloading fast for some and slow for others. 0.30mbps this is BS. My internet isn't crap.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Unfair advantage to those with convenient sleep/work/etc schedules.

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Well that's news I didn't know this game was a race to see who can access content released for everyone at the same time. /sarcasm

SE started the 24 Hr Maintenance since 2.4. The reason why Patch 2.4 was a 25 Hour Maintenance is because the community voiced it to SE because it was set to finish at 12am PST. This is exactly 1 hour before the weekly reset, which means getting an extra set of tomestones in before the reset. This would've let to an unfair advantage to the masses that had IRL obligations if the game went up before the Server reset. That is why all maintenances end after the reset has kicked in.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

How can you get an unfair advantage in something that every one can do *once* per week?

Disclaimer: I don't think servers will come up early but the logic above is.. well.. not logical.

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Because those players will be a week ahead of everyone else?

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Because those players will be a week ahead of everyone else?

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Why does this even matter? You aren't competing against each other. Although if you choose to do so it's your own choice. You don't get anything by being "first" to do something in this game.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

How can you get an unfair advantage in something that every one can do *once* per week?

Disclaimer: I don't think servers will come up early but the logic above is.. well.. not logical.

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As people who would be able to wake up early or don't have any things they need to attend will be one week ahead, ie, if the patch came up 1 hour earlier then some could theoretically have completed void ark and quest before reset which would put them 1 piece ahead, in a game where it matter to some it is an unfair advantage.

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Originally Posted by Krindor

As people who would be able to wake up early or don't have any things they need to attend will be one week ahead, ie, if the patch came up 1 hour earlier then some could theoretically have completed void ark and quest before reset which would put them 1 piece ahead, in a game where it matter to some it is an unfair advantage.

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Big deal. Why does it matter if someone else has extra tomes or one more piece of gear then you do? If it effects the quality of the game for you that's a personal problem.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

And this is a problem why?

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Originally Posted by Aramina

How can you get an unfair advantage in something that every one can do *once* per week?
Disclaimer: I don't think servers will come up early but the logic above is.. well.. not logical.

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Sorry for step in but I think he meant if the server was up a few hours before weekly reset, early access players would be able to obtain extra weekly item before the first weekly reset. ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

Sorry for step in but I think he meant if the server was up a few hours before weekly reset, early access players would be able to obtain extra weekly item before the first weekly reset. ^^;

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So why is this a problem?

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

Big deal. Why does it matter if someone else has extra tomes or one more piece of gear then you do? If it effects the quality of the game for you that's a personal problem.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

How can you get an unfair advantage in something that every one can do *once* per week?

Disclaimer: I don't think servers will come up early but the logic above is.. well.. not logical.

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Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth

So why is this a problem?

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Here's your answer: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...92dc081af4870e

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...787f03589d.jpg

It would matter in a PvP-based environment, which is not the case in this game. For now you are asking why this child in the courtyard is crying because his comrade gots a red balloon 5 minutes ago and he didn't got one, yet.

Final fantasy community can be that strange time to time :)

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Originally Posted by Krindor

As people who would be able to wake up early or don't have any things they need to attend will be one week ahead, ie, if the patch came up 1 hour earlier then some could theoretically have completed void ark and quest before reset which would put them 1 piece ahead, in a game where it matter to some it is an unfair advantage.

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What is the "advantage"? What does having access to one more piece of gear before somebody else give anybody over anyone else? "Oh snap guys... this guy has two pieces of the new i200 set. Lets take him into our 4man dungeon over the other guy who is only in full Esoterics". No.

The only "Unfairness" is about people being butthurt that they can't play dress up.

Regardless of whether or not theres opportunity to get that extra bit in to cap before the weeks reset, theres ALWAYS going to be a rush, congestion and 90ks EVERY patch.

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

Here's your answer: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...92dc081af4870e

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So it's server congestion and not because of a perceived advantage according to your link.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

So it's server congestion and not because of a perceived advantage according to your link.

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why do you think there would be more server congestion an hour before reset rather than after?

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

So it's server congestion and not because of a perceived advantage according to your link.

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That may have been the official reason given, but we all know it's not the actual reason that people were complaining. God forbid somebody gets something sooner than somebody else.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

Big deal. Why does it matter if someone else has extra tomes or one more piece of gear then you do? If it effects the quality of the game for you that's a personal problem.

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I don't mind someone elsa has extra item, as I will take a leave and become one of the "someone" as well ^^;

But I think it is for the sake of system consistency as every weekly reset provides the same window for players to process.
Therefore if there is one special day that can obtain item for one week, it is a system inconsistency - which is the unfair advantage against another week.

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Originally Posted by Melocke

why do you think there would be more server congestion an hour before reset rather than after?

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Because people want to rush out to try a new patch. This has always been the case with MMOs in my experience.

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Originally Posted by KeluBehemoth

So why is this a problem?

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system inconsistency.

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

Because people want to rush out to try a new patch. This has always been the case with MMOs in my experience.

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so what does this have to do with the time that the server comes up? either way its the same.

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Originally Posted by Melocke

so what does this have to do with the time that the server comes up? either way its the same.

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Are you purposefully being dense? This is a direct response to what you said which ultimately was from another quote of yours:

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why do you think there would be more server congestion an hour before reset rather than after?

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Seriously? where are you from? I'm from NZ and the download completed in like 10 min with my VDSL connection...

It's a simple reasoning for several reasons.

1. Players complain: It's an NA thing. They don't want their epeen hurt. They are falling behind other players because they can't get on in those few hours to collect tomes and do content during that narrow window while others can. This means they can't get things quicker, and they can boast their superiority to other players by standing around with gear they shouldn't have until the second or third week in. If they can't access the content in that narrow window and get extra stuff, then no one should be able to.

2. Congestion: Everyone rushing in at once to do new patch stuff, max tomes, and do things before the weekly reset can cause 90k's, crashes and such. This is especially true when it comes to high pop serves like gilgamesh and balmung. The entire data center can suffer.

3. SE wants to extend content for as long as possible: 3.1 has to last at least 3 months. Major grinding content should take about 1.5-2 months. Opening up the servers before the weekly reset would kind of kill that. Servers open early, everyone grinds. Weekly reset hits, everyone grinds again. So within a few hours, people will have 2 weeks of progress before the first week has really gotten started. That's a half a month's work of progress. By holding off the patch until after reset, a few hours turns into a full two weeks.

Lol mine done around 2 hours... Just hoping I could make alt character on my server

Full patched and downloaded here!

"The game is unavailable for play during maintenance."

... Darn.

Well, I have to work tomorrow, but I'll probably pop on just before work and see if I can't make a character on a normally locked server and save myself $18.

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Originally Posted by Iskander

It's a simple reasoning for several reasons.

1. Players complain: It's an NA thing. They don't want their epeen hurt. They are falling behind other players because they can't get on in those few hours to collect tomes and do content during that narrow window while others can. This means they can't get things quicker, and they can boast their superiority to other players by standing around with gear they shouldn't have until the second or third week in. If they can't access the content in that narrow window and get extra stuff, then no one should be able to.

2. Congestion: Everyone rushing in at once to do new patch stuff, max tomes, and do things before the weekly reset can cause 90k's, crashes and such. This is especially true when it comes to high pop serves like gilgamesh and balmung. The entire data center can suffer.

3. SE wants to extend content for as long as possible: 3.1 has to last at least 3 months. Major grinding content should take about 1.5-2 months. Opening up the servers before the weekly reset would kind of kill that. Servers open early, everyone grinds. Weekly reset hits, everyone grinds again. So within a few hours, people will have 2 weeks of progress before the first week has really gotten started. That's a half a month's work of progress. By holding off the patch until after reset, a few hours turns into a full two weeks.

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Say what? This isn't a progression patch its a catch up patch... they aren't worried about folks 'progressing too quickly.'

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Originally Posted by Xanikk999

Are you purposefully being dense? This is a direct response to what you said which ultimately was from another quote of yours:

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you are missing the point entirely. they said they changed the maintenance end time to ease server congestion. you said that doesn't have to do with people wanting to get an advantage. i'm asking you why you think that? why would there be more server congestion before the weekly reset, rather than after, if not for this advantage? "people wanting to rush to try out a new patch" will happen when the maintenance ends, no matter what the time.

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Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson

Say what? This isn't a progression patch its a catch up patch... they aren't worried about folks 'progressing too quickly.'

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New Void Ark Gear, new exploration gear, new gathering items from exploration. New Recipes for crafting. Esoteric gear upgrade items are available from a variety of methods now. There are beast tribe quests just to name a few.

Two Void Ark gear pieces in a few hours instead of 2 weeks.

You can probably get in 2 exploratory missions, which means gear and gathering items, if they opened up the servers right now.

You can cap esoterics twice if they opened it right now, and probably upgrade two pieces in the few hours. If there are 12 items to upgrade....er 11 for some due to ring things. The time it'd take to upgrade all of that would be significantly reduced just from the opening before reset.

Then there are beast tribe quests. Right now the quest limit is 6 a day. At the start, we only get 3 for a beast tribe until we get a rank up. Still, that'd be 6 quests in a few hours, getting a nice jump on getting that new mount.

Things people see as inconsequential can actually matter and make a difference. A couple hours can make a big difference with content burn, which is why they just wait until reset.

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Originally Posted by Melocke

you are missing the point entirely. they said they changed the maintenance end time to ease server congestion. you said that doesn't have to do with people wanting to get an advantage. i'm asking you why you think that? why would there be more server congestion before the weekly reset, rather than after, if not for this advantage? "people wanting to rush to try out a new patch" will happen when the maintenance ends, no matter what the time.

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I don't think there really would be much serve congestion before the weekly reset. The only reason there would be today if they released the patch early is simply because it's a new patch. I don't believe it has anything to do with people rushing on try to get into the new raid before the lockout.